Best way to get dense/firm nugs?

David Ferguson

Active Member
Sounds like your temps are to high to start. I don't grow LED, but I believe with LED lighting optimal temps are low 80s.

LED is great lighting, but the specific ones you are using aren't awesome, and don't put out the wattage they are listed at like Corey pointed out. See how many watts you actually have and use a grow space that fits that wattage, or get more/better lights.

Having fresh air exchange is vital unless you are supplementing CO2. The plants can't grow with out it.
Ty again! Noted!
 

JungleSlut

Well-Known Member
If you dont want to run air conditioning and deal with heat issues run a cob setup. Mind u I know nothing about cali temperstures other than you guys have palm trees

I had a 600 watt open ended hps on in a 3x3 tent with 4" inline fan.
With carbon filter temperature stayed at 29c
Without carbon filter at 25c and fan ran constantly



Hortibloom Luma b4 (4x citizen 1212 chips)
170 usd delivered

They can mix them with 3k and 4k for colour.
Good par if you make sure you overlap.

Theres also alot of Chinese fixtures comparable to gavita for a fraction of the cost and the journals comparing them to gavitas with living proof all over YouTube.
 
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Aqua Man

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If you dont want to run air conditioning and deal with heat issues run a cob setup. Mind u I know nothing about cali temperstures other than you guys have palm trees

I had a 600 watt open ended hps on in a 3x3 tent with 4" inline fan.
With carbon filter temperature stayed at 29c
Without carbon filter at 25c and fan ran constantly



Hortibloom Luma b4 (4x citizen 1212 chips)
170 usd delivered

They can mix them with 3k and 4k for colour.
Good par if you make sure you overlap.

Theres also alot of Chinese fixtures comparable to gavita for a fraction of the cost and the journals comparing them to gavitas with living proof all over YouTube.
Is that the ones you claimed they gave you for free to test out? Sounds more like a sale price. Are you gonna start that Chinese knock off stuff being just as good quality here too?

Not all carbon filters are equal and they don't perform well in high humidity that was your problem.

This kid hasn't managed to keep a single seedling alive and is giving advice on lighting.

SMH sorry ppl but beware
 

JungleSlut

Well-Known Member
Is that the ones you claimed they gave you for free to test out? Sounds more like a sale price. Are you gonna start that Chinese knock off stuff being just as good quality here too?

Not all carbon filters are equal and they don't perform well in high humidity that was your problem.

This kid hasn't managed to keep a single seedling alive and is giving advice on lighting.

SMH sorry ppl but beware
@aquaman

I'm I'm Alberta RH is 30% max.
Humidity was never a problem.
My issue was overwatering.
Dont need a carbon filter because weeds legal here.
You dont need to be an expert grower to understand a par chart and spectrums. The formulas never change. Just the light that provides them.

Im just Giving options.
Take your hate somewhere. I'm here to learn like everyone else.
You named yourself after the gayest fucking superhero alive.
You probably voted for that pos trudeu.
Your chasing me around a forum trying to get people to hate on me.
Your pathetic seriously grow a set.
Your talking to a man who doesnt have time for little goofs.
This is a cannabis forum for potheads that grow dope and smoke dope.
Your running around causing hate.
Beat it

Thank God for the ignore button
 
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Aqua Man

Well-Known Member
I'm I'm Alberta RH is 30% max.
Humidity was never a problem.
My issue was overwatering.
Dont need a carbon filter because weeds legal here.
You dont need to be an expert grower to understand a par chart and spectrums. The formulas never change. Just the light that provides them.

Im just Giving options. Take your hate somewhere else goof. I'm here to learn like everyone else.
You named yourself after the gayest fucking superhero alive.
Your chasing me around a forum trying to get people to hate on me.
Your pathetic dude ..seriously grow a set and go cry about something on Facebook. Got no time for this.
Yup knew that was you :) Welcome to RUI btw.

Over watering does not effect the performance of your carbon filter :) humidity does and RH outside the tent only matters if it on the intake

I'm gonna guess Stettler Alberta? Angry much?
 
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TintEastwood

Well-Known Member
All noted, thanks! I DO have A/C in there, so there is fresh air coming in, but not necessarily going out (except opening door etc). Still set up ducting and all? Or not necessary? To confirm. And no...no bugs lol....NUGS.
You might want to double check if your AC is actually providing fresh air. If it's a sealed room the AC normally just cools the air in the room.

One time Co2 costs.
$40. Regulator and rain tube kit.
$160. Co2 Controller.
$120. 20lb Co2 bottle.
(I found a used bottle for 40.)

Ongoing cost...
Growbiz in rocklin exchanges my empty for full. About $20.
Many variables as to how many times you will need to exchange bottle during a run. I go thru 2 bottles in my 4x8x8. Averaging 900ppm.

......
Here's a link to some techno info of possible help.
https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/article/bad-gas/
 
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UncleReemis

Well-Known Member
Be careful not to have your LEDs too close to the canopy. Of all the types of lighting, LED would be the type you'd place higher above the canopy than the others. I've made some mistakes and had some airy/fox-tailed tops because of this yet my lower branches (even 3-4+ft) are rocks. Shoot for even canopy penetration and a more complete light spectrum.
 

Geotropic

Member
If you're are growing in inhabited part of your house, you can take advantage of the rich CO2 in your air for free.

My house is 2200+ sqft, and CO2 runs in the range 800- 2200 ppmv, depending on how many people and dogs are breathing. I keep the circulation fan on continuously to avoid buildup in bedrooms. If you keep your house windows open or are running a gas furnace, it will reduce your levels.

Fluffy nugs usually result from too much heat and low light intensity. With leds, you can acclimate your plants to high (40+ DLI) light intensity. Your Viparspectras can be worked down to 12-16" (30-40 cm) if spread is not an issue.

A flat canopy with high light flux (800+ pffd) will give all strains the best shot. (Indicas slightly less as a rule).
 
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