Best way to grow a single plant?

SikSol said:

I personally like soil, I use a scotts and perlite mix, with no nutes. i wont add nutes until the plants are at least, a foot tall usually and even then I do it in small amounts no need to risk burning them and stunting their growth I've even done soil grows with no nutes at all and had good results.

I used to doubt the 12/12 method until i seen some ppl pull it off really well and now im stuck on it. Yeah it's nice to be able to grow the bigger nicer plants with bigger yields but, I still can still get big numbers, in a smaller amount of time and in a smaller space with this method.

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So just some good soil and maybe a little half strength foxfarm? I guess I would only need to use the flowering formula right?
Also, is it possible to take cuttings from the plants when their in flowering like that? If I'm growing from seed I may or may not be able to keep getting good seed and I'd rather not maintain a veg room if I'm just gonna go 12/12 so what do you suggest?

Thanks for all the info man your basically designing my grow room right now haha.

Yes, you can take clones from the plants, but no later than 2 weeks after they start flowering(you start seeing the buds form.) It can be done later than 2 weeks but its better to do it before that time frame.

You can use any part of the unused space in your closet and build a clone chamber using tupperware containers and a heat pad for a reptile tank. A good size one will accomadate plenty of clones, and have a sperate set of lights that run 24hrs on them.

Make shure where your clone chamber is though that the lights for it cannot reach where the other plants are on a 12/12

That seems kinda weak but I guess there's no way around it. I'd rather not have to get 2 lights but if I'm right you gotta have at least a little 18+ hour light for those clones to get through the shock. I never thought I'd ever want to get into the headache of learning SOG growing but you made it seem pretty simple, thanks man.

Any guess on how much you think I'll be raking in with that 315 Watt light? How many plants do you think I should grow at a time to take full advantage of the 15,000 lumens?

You can just get some cheap CFL's to run 24/7 with the clone chamber. No biggie and simple and easy.

With that 315w light at 15,000 lumens, plus if you add some extra CFL's somewhere along the line there's no reason you couldnt support 15-20 plants with that if you have good surface like flat white, or mylar and can keep them fairly close together. I would introduce them at week intervals, that way you have a sort of perpetual grow and can harvest more often.

If you time them out right and the right number of plants you can harvest at least a plant or two every week or two.

If I allow 1'x1' for each plant I can fit probably 8-10 plants so that light is really more than enough and 8-10 plants at .5-1.5 oz each is anowhere from 4-15 oz haha thats almost TOO much. Thats just sick do you have any other pointers for keeping it dank too cause I'm really into heady shit I want it to be top notch if at all possible.

Just keep them healthy man, a healthy plant is a strong plant, basics... everyone always worries more about nutes etc. Than the basics like not overwatering not underwatering, letting temps get to high or to low. The plant will tell you what it needs.

As far as watering, get ya some PH testing stuff and PH up and PH down from a pet store. Let tap water sit out for at least 2 days, check its PH and adjust it to 6.0-6.5, give the ph down plenty time to work before testing the water again.

You can also get a cheap Moisture gauge from lowes or home depot, to help you check your soil. I will water until it starts to drop from the drain holes in the bottom and feel how heavy the pot is. Ill check it every day and when it feels like it is as heavy as when it had just dry soil, ill use the moisture meter to check how dry the soil is from top to bottom, and when it reads dry pretty much all the way to the bottom, which is about every 3 days, I will repeat the whole process.

Dont confuse overwatering with giving to much water. It's more giving water to Often than it is giving to much at a single watering.

Most of all good luck and let me know when you start a grow thread and I will stick with it and give ya pointers as you go.

Check this link. Its the best way to grow single plant i found yet... http://www.forum.haszysz.com/showthread.php/high-pod-jedna-roslina-5-uncji-9640.html

Thats all good and dandy if your willing to just grow one plant at a times, which means you better have a mum to get clones off of so your not taking a chance gettin males with seeds. With one plant though you are going to spend lets say 4-8weeks veg and 8-10 weeks flowering and get maybe 3 oz or so like that that guy did in 12-18weeks.

I prefer the idea of my dwarf 12/12's gettin .5 to 1.5 oz in 8-13 weeks time, and having enough room to grow more of them, and bieng able to harvest at least a ounce every week or two if I so choose.

If Im taking clones how big should I let them get before putting them in my 12/12 area with your method?
Is it ever worth letting the plants get at least a couple inches high under 18+ light before going straight 12/12 or do you think 12/12 from seed is best?

SikSol said:

Thats all good and dandy if your willing to just grow one plant at a times, which means you better have a mum to get clones off of so your not taking a chance gettin males with seeds. With one plant though you are going to spend lets say 4-8weeks veg and 8-10 weeks flowering and get maybe 3 oz or so like that that guy did in 12-18weeks.

I prefer the idea of my dwarf 12/12's gettin .5 to 1.5 oz in 8-13 weeks time, and having enough room to grow more of them, and bieng able to harvest at least a ounce every week or two if I so choose.

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As soon as the clones are rooted well and look good you can start them on the 12/12. I've experimented with different lengths of short term use of 18/6 before 12/12 and havnt notice much of a difference.

Yes 12/12 will cause a plant to flower but the plant will not flower until it is big enough. I've never had a problem with a 3-4in plant with 3-4 nodes trying to flower, they wont start untill they are ready. You got to consider in nature a plant doesnt get a 18/6 light schedule.

Will they get as big as if you keep a plant in veg no, because we can control that the plant stays in veg as long as we want, to get it as big as we want. A 12/12 from seed grow produces just as healthy and potent plants as any other method, plant size and time to harvest is the only difference.

I see... well I'm definitly sold on this SOG shit especially after reading DrGreen's grow journal. I think I'm just gonna get a 250 watt HPS light and give the seedlings/clones a few weeks of 18/6 with it before busting into flowering, this way I dont have to set up a veg room right away. I had some air flow/odor concerns but I think I got it pretty much worked out now (just gonna seal up the room my grow closet is in and get an air purifier and then use a couple oscillating fans to keep the light cool and air moving, maybe some fizzy water for extra co2) I want to try to find some kind of cloth barrier for the closet that will allow airflow but keep it dark while they are sleeping too. Other than that I'm just gonna go like you said 3 to 1 ratio of organic soil mix and perlite and ill think about feeding some foxfarm later if they need it.

How am I doing so far? hahahaha!

Sounds good, I think you find this way of growing very rewarding and fun at that, you stay a little more active always starting new plants more often than other methods. As far as getting some fresh air into the closet you can do it as easily as just opening it for a few min a here and there(Only when the lights are on!)

You dont have to worry about the small amount of light that will get into through the cracks of your door, You have to think in nature the plants are subject to moonlight that can be far more than what little bit of incandescent light makes it through your door cracks.

I dont worry about sealing up the small cracks in door unless they are to big and allowing a good bit of light in, and I have had no problems.

alright cool i wont worry too much then other than for smell. Itd be great to see some pics of what you've been able to produce with this system.

Dont got a digi' cam. Ill either get one or just use my cell phone and post some. I just started a new closet bout 2 days ago with 16 plants.

how long are you vegging them? whats all in your setup?

the new closet i just started, no veg time 12/12 from seed, I sprouted them in paper towels, then into rockwool they went, best looking 4 will go into DWC the rest in soil/perlite. As I weed through the males and week plants the best ones will stay in the DWC. Have a circulating Tower fan, 150w HPS, 8 27w 6500k CFL's Temp/Humidity gauge. Auto pH adjuster for the DWC.

Nothing has broke surface yet after 2 days, I also have another 2 week old plant in there from a different closet.

I thought about doing DWC but you convinced me to go with soil instead. I might even give it a go with no fertilizer for a few plants but ill have some foxfarm tiger bloom standing by.