kevin murphy
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at end of day its your plant and your grow your always gunna have people disagree with the method and that me included but post the results and a proper grow journal for us all to see...
Better lighting schedule, bigger growth, cheaper bills
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azman
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lol this thread is hilarious, half the people here have nt tried it nor will try it but are happy to disregard it, fine thats your call move along nothing to see here.
i usually veg for 5 weeks to achieve a certain height before i flip, i reached that height by 4 weeks tats a week of veg saved using 3x 600 watt light, thats a nice litle save.
also showed sex by 4 days of flower as the schedule has them tittering on the edge of flower, so yes they do also finish faster.
i have not tried this with autos as i dont use them, i only use clones.
roughly worked out my electricity savings and compared with the normal cycle i use i will have saved over my grow 540 hours of power usage.
using 18 or 20 hours you are making your plants light junkies hence the stretch when you flip them cos they need that light.
mine have done well for me, short stocky plants and tight nodes, im happy.
you stick with your lighting schedule ill use mine but dont insult others inteligence because you havent/wouldnt use it.
i usually veg for 5 weeks to achieve a certain height before i flip, i reached that height by 4 weeks tats a week of veg saved using 3x 600 watt light, thats a nice litle save.
also showed sex by 4 days of flower as the schedule has them tittering on the edge of flower, so yes they do also finish faster.
i have not tried this with autos as i dont use them, i only use clones.
roughly worked out my electricity savings and compared with the normal cycle i use i will have saved over my grow 540 hours of power usage.
using 18 or 20 hours you are making your plants light junkies hence the stretch when you flip them cos they need that light.
mine have done well for me, short stocky plants and tight nodes, im happy.
you stick with your lighting schedule ill use mine but dont insult others inteligence because you havent/wouldnt use it.
maximum
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well said bro.
Question, one poster suggested less potent dope is made by using 12-1. Have you noticed a difference?
watchhowIdoit
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Sure wish you would have included the yield difference...you said they finished faster yet did not offer any data on yield change.... Your claims of making "our plants junkies' was cool.....
azman
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thanks watchhowidoit, my grow hasnt finished as of yet but i will update when it is finished. im nearing the end of week 6 now and th eleaves are yellowing and dying off so shouldnt be long.
trichs cloudy a few amber so maybe another few days.
also said they do finish faster not did.'
as for owering potency i dont see how when darkness increases thc producition?
absolutely stink. growing bluecheese,bigbang2,ak47. the cheese well all i can say is mmmmmmm lol
ps also put the update in LILBSDAD thread as its regarding this topic too.
trichs cloudy a few amber so maybe another few days.
also said they do finish faster not did.'
as for owering potency i dont see how when darkness increases thc producition?
absolutely stink. growing bluecheese,bigbang2,ak47. the cheese well all i can say is mmmmmmm lol
ps also put the update in LILBSDAD thread as its regarding this topic too.
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maximum
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yea I would like to know that too
maximum
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yea there you go, they look great to me. Goodjob man. And you got balls for trying.
azman
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i have 3 friends also using this same technique, when they saw my girls.
i will be sticking with this schedule!
maximum
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did you notice a negative to it?
DrFever
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I think what it comes down to is yield you sacrifice lighting and yields will suffer as well my thought tho i will always take my clones from a 3 " size and in 3 weeks there 55 inches plus on my 18/6 schedule my yields are 1160 dry grrams per 1000 watt light area
and trying for better yields with out messing with lighting schedules when you find someting that works then leave her alone and only tweak it to try to get better yields
azman
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all i can say is at the moment in my opinion my yields dont appear to be affected,
but having not tried it nor knowing any one that has tried it how can you speculate i will have a reduced yiled?
dont suppose you have next weeks lotto numbers too do you?
and if ou do know some one that has tried it and has negative feedback please do link them here.
watchhowIdoit
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Yet has there been somebody to show hard side by side date, in this thread or the many others on the web, that proves the methods claim. Ya you may save a buck but at what cost???????? Gimmick.............
johny1212
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I am with you man. I will probably try this too. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
azman
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thats the ticket, please give it a go for yourself. im suprised these people even grow indoors lol,
knourgro
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you know your not supposed to use this technique while flowering right??? this is a veg only light cycle intended to mimic how a plant would be shaded and recieve some low light during the course of a day which causes the plant to grow more robustly. but only in veg!!! lol if you use this light cycle while flowering you will end up with hermed plants and low quality buds. hopefully everyone already knew this though and i just misread lol.
goodluck with it, im starting this veg cycle in one of my tents now as well so ill keep my info posted as well when they start bushing up.
goodluck peeps
johny1212
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Wowza! 1160 per 1000?! You must know your shit. Are you running hydro?
azman
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yes i have done the 12-1 veg im now doing the flowering side of the cycle,
starting at 11 on 13 off and dropping half hour every 2 weeks .
here is the article i read:
The biggest innovator in the history of cannabis in my generation is Reinhard Delp. Not only did he invent and is the holder of the patent for ice water extraction, he has been building flower forcers since 1992. His new solar powered Sun-gate is the leader of the industry. He was the first to feminize seeds and sell them in Europe in the late 90’s. His process was done naturally, without the use of any chemicals.
In the late 90’s Reinhard brought back the gas lantern routine that you find in any college grade horticulture book, and applied it to cannabis. Cannabis needs only 13 hours to stay in the vegetative growth stage. The 18-6 lighting schedule in vegetation, actually stress your plants, that never get that much light in one-day outdoors. Cannabis is an outdoor plant. Growing indoors you should copy how it grows outdoors. No Cannabis growing in Afghanistan gets 18 hours of light in growth pattern. Most strains today have some part Indica in their genetic pool. Even equatorial strains don’t get 18 hours of sun a day.
The 12-1 lighting schedule is as follows 12 hours lights on, 5.5 lights off, 1-hour lights on, 5.5 lights off, and repeat schedule. The 1 hour on in between off period fools the plants that stay in vegetative growth state! Your immediate savings are 5 hours in energy costs daily, as well as your bulbs and equipment lasting longer. But how do the plants react to this lighting schedule?
You see immediate growth response from your plants, they are happy from the added rest time. By day 14 the plants tripled in size. The plants are bushy with twice as many bud sites without topping or bending, In fact when you top and stretch your plants out, you get many more bud sites than you would have had under 18-6 using same procedure of topping and stretching plant, your growing bigger and better and faster.
So your saving 5 hours daily in energy costs, as well as your excellerated growth pattern which also saves you time and energy and equipment use.
In the flowering stage, never use 12-12, start your flowering period at 11 hours on 13 hours off. When your are growing outdoors each day you get less and less sun light, you should copy the way the sun acts naturally in your indoor grow. So first 2 weeks of flower you go 11 on 13 off, the next 2 weeks you go down to 10.5 on 13.5 off, next 2 weeks 10 on 14 off, next two weeks 9.5 on 14.5 off and the last weeks of flower you should be at 9 hours on and 15 hours off. You’ll get bigger and better buds by copying the way the sun light works on cannabis outdoors.
Cannabis is an outdoor plant and you should copy the way it grows outdoors indoors. The only thing that 18-6, and then 12-12 lighting schedule's do is make the energy companies rich as well as the people who sell lights and equipment, the more you use the more you spend. 12-1 lighting schedule is a more natural way to grow indoors and you well have the best results you have ever had and save as much as 50% in energy costs.
In the flowering stage, never use 12-12, start your flowering period at 11 hours on 13 hours off. When your are growing outdoors each day you get less and less sun light, you should copy the way the sun acts naturally in your indoor grow. So first 2 weeks of flower you go 11 on 13 off, the next 2 weeks you go down to 10.5 on 13.5 off, next 2 weeks 10 on 14 off, next two weeks 9.5 on 14.5 off and the last weeks of flower you should be at 9 hours on and 15 hours off. You’ll get bigger and better buds by copying the way the sun light works on cannabis outdoors.
Cannabis is an outdoor plant and you should copy the way it grows outdoors indoors. The only thing that 18-6, and then 12-12 lighting schedule's do is make the energy companies rich as well as the people who sell lights and equipment, the more you use the more you spend. 12-1 lighting schedule is a more natural way to grow indoors and you well have the best results you have ever had and save as much as 50% in energy costs.
