BHO Yield Comparison: Fine Ground Blender Buds Vs. Lightly Hand Broken Up Buds
- Thread starter BCOGYODA
- Start date
JointOperation
Well-Known Member
i tried this also. found the same results.. but.. u need to make sure your fan leaves are off the buds for the grinded stuff or else the smell and taste is a lil different.. what we found was .. that even with trim.. grinding was fine if u use enough filters.. and bigger yields.. of same exact quality.. as long as u clean your buds or trim before grinding.. u dont want a ton of material that isnt full of crystals.
SaybianTv
Active Member
I just tried this as the outdoor bud I had received was yielding suicide 6%, it was so sticky it couldn't hand screen it like normal but actually had to resin up my wife's food processor. BC is right same color same taste better yields "IF" your tek is strong. I winterize everything I run so all I notice is double the wax content in my filters, if you don't dewax and are into lung busting I suppose ground weed would produce stronger oil to some...... to me it would just taste n feel like death but that's coming from winterization addiction.
Sounds like you need to find some properly grown, not chemically filled, properly cleared, dried, and cured, smooth tasting flowers to smoke Saybian.
Flowers done the right way no matter if it's ground, chopped, winterized or whatever should not be lung busting you.
I have friends that winterize their stuff and it can't hold a flame to my clean flowers or extracts because they just buy or get whatever bud is around at the time to make their extracts with.
What you put in is what you get out. The oil as well as the lipids carry the same bad tasting shit. Winterized or not.
The only way to know exactly what you are smoking or extracting is by growing it, clearing it, drying it, and curing it yourself.
Grinding of material has absolutely nothing to do with you burning your lungs with what you are smoking. That is the product you are working with doing that.
Overcooking your extracts can also give a bitter taste and non sweet smell to your end product.
You should never be doing extracts with fan leaves. Why would you try to extract hash from a non resinous part of the plant?
I have read some guys posting that they are only using a few coffee filters when blasting. That may be ok if you are doing a very small run with very little butane but if anyone is doing a large amount of product with a large amount of butane I suggest using a shit load of filters if your tube can handle the pressure without a blow out. The larger the I.D. of your tube the more filters you can use because the pressure build up is less.
In my large tubes I run 10 filters and I change them after running about 6 butane tubes, then put 10 new ones on and run 6 more tubes when doing a 12 can tane run with one batch of material in each tube.
Check out your filters under a microscope and see what material is getting through them...it'll make you want to use more of them if your tubes can take the added pressure.
JointOperation
Well-Known Member
you obviously read that wrong.. i was saying. u should pick your fan leaves out of your trim.. and if your running buds.. u should trim off the fans before packing.. i dont trim all the sugar trim off my buds when im running it into BHO..
but if u ever have done an extraction.. with ISO on fan leaves.. u get a small yield.. but its got CBD in fans. so its grea\t to use for topicals.. or to add to edibles to make them more into a medicine. i do fan leaves and stems . only the stems that bud comes off of directly.. but still i did a run of stems and fan leaves.. and the product i made.. was amazing for topicals.. allowing me to not use bud for topicals is great.. it also uses the entire plant for something or another..
10 filters.. is over kill.. i run 3 under the screen and 2 above sometimes 6 all together.. plus a mesh screen to prevent blow outs.. but i also just bag them up after use.. and clean em using butane or iso.. and honestly. i use that for topicals or edibles also.. works great.
Hey JO I had no idea about the cbd's in the fans and stems! Wow that is very enlightening. Thanks for that I'm gonna read up on that.
10 filters isn't overkill on the amount of material I run in my tubes especially because of the surface area of material exposed to the filter surface. I run between 200-300 grams per tube. It all depends on your tube size and pressure build up and what you can see coming out of your tube in your tane through a microscope.
The size of the tube, the amount of material ran, and the amount of tane ran through the filters will dictate how many filters should be used for what the extractor is doing.
Fine ground material will also require more filters vs course ground or broken up buds.
A one ounce tube is quite small so you will have pressure build up a lot faster than a larger I.D. tube (inside diameter) so just use what you can without creating too much pressure and chance for a blow out. You don't want so much pressure built up so that the tane doesn't run through the material at a decent pace. If it's moving through the filters too slow then that's not good either. Play around with it and find what works best for your tube. Use as many as you can with it still working well.
SaybianTv
Active Member
BC is on fire today. I don't get lung bust from my oil, I can filter an resolve any filthy grow. I wasn't talking about me when I said producing lung bust. Im talking about un-winterized oil made from ground material producing more fats and lipids even if producing the same aethetic quality of product. I'm pointing to the extra yield you mentioned, the only reason Im Pro the more yield theory is because I can prove it in a higher fat yield at winterization + additional oil post winterize.
You know I know growing your own can't be compared to, but im not talking oil production for personal smoke or crew smoke. For those of us without poundages of our own, who's gunna help all the good thc out there that won't make it to market because it had 5 days too many in the 100 mile house sun? Is that a shitty grow full of filth? cuzz it wasn't grown under a 1k's in an environment controled room?
I wonder how everyone in BC is claiming winterize like it's not something that takes it's own practice to perfect. I know people don't do it, and when they do it it's a for personal so who cares job done. I can't bloody well winterize my way to better weed, and I know when you jam your clean meds in a tube goodness is dripping on the other end. But your mixing your grower skills with your extract artist skills and all Im saying is when you get out there and work with many grower's you start to learn allot about what can and can't be done without experience.
I've had the frostiest indoor organic spew nothing but unflush magnesium all over my filters.
I've had the wettest outdoor synthetic give me the cleanest winterize filter remainders yet.
I guess that means I work with the general public and for the general public. So yeah as hash maker to hash maker you can shit on me about my material, but your speaking to me from a bubble of your own premium material.... You can come into jim's weeds, or redmed, or the dab bar and take your thumb n go push your finger into my soft oil when you find it. I know I sell it, says pull n snap on the front I know I made it from 15 pounds of aromaticaly wonderfull outdoor that was just too low thc to get by in a BC weed Glut.
I'm not gunna shit on it because i can see red trich's under the scope, I know im gunna get shit on when i run it.
I dunno I was kinda hoping to hook up with you this 420 weekend, i don't wanna skirmish over nothing. I don't wanna fight over who's dick i mean shatter is stiffer when I know what in the growroom decides the game way before i ever show up with my solvent. I know im not running from TRA test that are now showing pentane in everyones dick strongbo rock hard shatter. I use a green non toxic hydrocarbon to extract, so all those "bubbles = tane"" softness = u suck" can drop dead and go for a spin in my rotovape.
But that's me and I know when i read awhile back you saying you see goo in all the shops I laughed my ass off and said True indeed but hey that applies to me to and I'm not in the same brass.
Anyways I really wanna meet ya man and share what I do, even if I don't have "better" weed that you to put in my tube, trust me you wanna try even my most leftover buttered up head stash. Just for the sake of discussion of what I do and what do your senses tell you. About what solvents are doing to our oils, i've read so much on how some people use an elevated propane content to change an extractions color and taste that it makes you really want to try every solvents work if your lucky enough to meet someone who doesn't produce lung bust.
Every dab of bho I've ever had in my life "except" for 1 mystery hash artist who made some Red Tuna has completly given me lung bust. I quit smoking roll your own cigarettes, so I've grown beyond pain = pleasure.
Hold your dab in for 15 seconds, none of that steamboat 3 second eject and just watch your body's unfiltered reaction. So leave macho lungs out! i got those too but there retired. If you feel your body isn't rejecting it then more power to you man and I really hope your the second guy to be on my BHO i know it can be grrrrrEAT list. Otherwise its something i imagine is an american thing because equipment is so widely available.
Since where venting our inter hash artist frustrations, i'd like to take a shot at people who don't understand dabs are suppose to taste good. I'm really frustrated with the vancity hash scene n now you got me all excited and riled up n now i just wanna agree with you so we can talk about what else is wrong out there rather than accidentally going at each other.
You registered for the PNW secret cup??? I wish you were man maybe there's still time, Im gunna be so lonely being a cannuck from coquitlam.
You know I know growing your own can't be compared to, but im not talking oil production for personal smoke or crew smoke. For those of us without poundages of our own, who's gunna help all the good thc out there that won't make it to market because it had 5 days too many in the 100 mile house sun? Is that a shitty grow full of filth? cuzz it wasn't grown under a 1k's in an environment controled room?
I wonder how everyone in BC is claiming winterize like it's not something that takes it's own practice to perfect. I know people don't do it, and when they do it it's a for personal so who cares job done. I can't bloody well winterize my way to better weed, and I know when you jam your clean meds in a tube goodness is dripping on the other end. But your mixing your grower skills with your extract artist skills and all Im saying is when you get out there and work with many grower's you start to learn allot about what can and can't be done without experience.
I've had the frostiest indoor organic spew nothing but unflush magnesium all over my filters.
I've had the wettest outdoor synthetic give me the cleanest winterize filter remainders yet.
I guess that means I work with the general public and for the general public. So yeah as hash maker to hash maker you can shit on me about my material, but your speaking to me from a bubble of your own premium material.... You can come into jim's weeds, or redmed, or the dab bar and take your thumb n go push your finger into my soft oil when you find it. I know I sell it, says pull n snap on the front I know I made it from 15 pounds of aromaticaly wonderfull outdoor that was just too low thc to get by in a BC weed Glut.
I'm not gunna shit on it because i can see red trich's under the scope, I know im gunna get shit on when i run it.
I dunno I was kinda hoping to hook up with you this 420 weekend, i don't wanna skirmish over nothing. I don't wanna fight over who's dick i mean shatter is stiffer when I know what in the growroom decides the game way before i ever show up with my solvent. I know im not running from TRA test that are now showing pentane in everyones dick strongbo rock hard shatter. I use a green non toxic hydrocarbon to extract, so all those "bubbles = tane"" softness = u suck" can drop dead and go for a spin in my rotovape.
But that's me and I know when i read awhile back you saying you see goo in all the shops I laughed my ass off and said True indeed but hey that applies to me to and I'm not in the same brass.
Anyways I really wanna meet ya man and share what I do, even if I don't have "better" weed that you to put in my tube, trust me you wanna try even my most leftover buttered up head stash. Just for the sake of discussion of what I do and what do your senses tell you. About what solvents are doing to our oils, i've read so much on how some people use an elevated propane content to change an extractions color and taste that it makes you really want to try every solvents work if your lucky enough to meet someone who doesn't produce lung bust.
Every dab of bho I've ever had in my life "except" for 1 mystery hash artist who made some Red Tuna has completly given me lung bust. I quit smoking roll your own cigarettes, so I've grown beyond pain = pleasure.
Hold your dab in for 15 seconds, none of that steamboat 3 second eject and just watch your body's unfiltered reaction. So leave macho lungs out! i got those too but there retired. If you feel your body isn't rejecting it then more power to you man and I really hope your the second guy to be on my BHO i know it can be grrrrrEAT list. Otherwise its something i imagine is an american thing because equipment is so widely available.
Since where venting our inter hash artist frustrations, i'd like to take a shot at people who don't understand dabs are suppose to taste good. I'm really frustrated with the vancity hash scene n now you got me all excited and riled up n now i just wanna agree with you so we can talk about what else is wrong out there rather than accidentally going at each other.
You registered for the PNW secret cup??? I wish you were man maybe there's still time, Im gunna be so lonely being a cannuck from coquitlam.
Hey Saybian holy shit man that's a big post!! Hey man please don't think I was coming at ya about your extracts. I think my posts sometimes can come off aggressive at times cause I kind of just type without trying to word it softly..
I was trying to explain my experience with other peoples material and my friends extracts and yes, what kinds of extracts I come across in dispensaries. Yes you know man good extracts and good weed should be smooth, sweet, dank and/or fruity.
As for the cup stuff no I don't partake in those things I'm just way too busy man. I work with mj everyday, own a business, have employees, do some mj political stuff, have a wife and two daughters etc..so for me to find free time is very very hard. Any spare time I get I try to spend with the family.
Yes the Vancity hash scene is disgraceful. There is some good work out there but for the majority people are trying to make as much profit as possible at the expense of the quality of product.
I wish you all the best man and yes we should swap some extracts some time
I was trying to explain my experience with other peoples material and my friends extracts and yes, what kinds of extracts I come across in dispensaries. Yes you know man good extracts and good weed should be smooth, sweet, dank and/or fruity.
As for the cup stuff no I don't partake in those things I'm just way too busy man. I work with mj everyday, own a business, have employees, do some mj political stuff, have a wife and two daughters etc..so for me to find free time is very very hard. Any spare time I get I try to spend with the family.
Yes the Vancity hash scene is disgraceful. There is some good work out there but for the majority people are trying to make as much profit as possible at the expense of the quality of product.
I wish you all the best man and yes we should swap some extracts some time
JointOperation
Well-Known Member
another thing to mention is . winterizing outdoors takes out much more fats and waxs then indoors.. but ya i agree u do extract more waxs and fats with a grinded product.. but also realized that using a few pyrexs can allow you to get a amazing product that winterizing barely removes anything.. in 1 pyrex.. and the other.. u get alot more waxs an stuff but after winterizing.. u still end up with an amazing product and yield.
JointOperation
Well-Known Member
so.. today i ran my filters.. and got back.. some very amber 9 grams.. from 56 filters.. did this with soak method.. after winterizing.. i had 8.2... and the final purge weight was 7.9.. and the quality is superizingly good.. it doesnt taste as good as normal runs.. but i figured.. i wouldnt get more then a gram or 2.. but.. nope.. was worth the run.. ill decarb it.. and add it to capsules.. great for those rainy days.lol
Fuck Snails
Active Member
Very informative, thank you sir.
SnapsProvolone
Well-Known Member
I love my food ninja 
grinding is fine, just stack some unbleached filters to keep it from getting green particles of plant materials. It will increase back pressure so be patient injecting your cans with pauses to allow pressure to bleed through filter stack. I have had great results with a stack of two bleached then one unbleached then stainless mesh. Less back pressure, still clean.
I have not noticed additional pickup of unwanted waxes that require winterization but I freeze my tubes at -25f.
I stopped freezing butane for open column extraction as it was requiring over 2x the butane to completely extract.
Cold assed tubes dewax your run while your running. Very little to do via winterization.
grinding is fine, just stack some unbleached filters to keep it from getting green particles of plant materials. It will increase back pressure so be patient injecting your cans with pauses to allow pressure to bleed through filter stack. I have had great results with a stack of two bleached then one unbleached then stainless mesh. Less back pressure, still clean.I have not noticed additional pickup of unwanted waxes that require winterization but I freeze my tubes at -25f.
I stopped freezing butane for open column extraction as it was requiring over 2x the butane to completely extract.
Cold assed tubes dewax your run while your running. Very little to do via winterization.