Biden won

cherrybobeddie

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Carville told MSNBC’s “The 11th Hour” that he is “not satisfied” with only beating Trump once.

“I urge them to recount everywhere. Beat him twice. I’m not satisfied with beating him once. Recount until you drop. I don’t care,” Carville emphasized. “And it’s going to be December 14 — I’m not sure, but the Constitution of the statutory that lays out when this is going to happen. And they’re out there scamming. They’re raising money, and they’re not even putting in the recount, and now they want Don, Jr. to run the RNC to scam more money. That’s all they’re trying to do here. This is just a fund-raising grift, and it doesn’t matter.”

He continued, “Really, I was upset about it this afternoon, and I watched the president-elect, and he really was a great leader. He calmed me down, and I feel very good. I think he’s exhibited real qualities of leadership. And like I say, please recount everything, you know? It’s always good to go out, you beat somebody, you beat him again. That’s what … the [New Orleans] Saints did to Tampa Bay. We beat them, and then we came back Sunday night, and we beat them again. Same thing is going to happen when they recount these votes. They’re going to lose twice.”
 

printer

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GOP Sen. James Lankford (Okla.) said on Tuesday that there was "nothing wrong" with President-elect Joe Biden getting intelligence briefings and pledged to "step in" if the former vice president doesn't have access by Friday.

Asked about Biden not getting the briefings, Lankford told KRMG, a radio station in Oklahoma, that it "should be resolved" by Friday.

"There is no loss from him getting the briefings and to be able to do that and if that's not occuring by Friday I will step in as well, and to be able to push and to say this needs to occur so that regardless of the outcome of the election ... people can be ready for that actual task," Lankford said


Some people are thinking more of the country.
 

Justin-case

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Fogdog

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I feel President Biden's success or failure will still depend greatly on COVID, barring war or something. One scenario for the 2022 midterms is that COVID has been pretty much licked and that the economy is really starting to roll. As someone said, Rounding the Corner, churches packed for Easter, Roaring Back. If that happens then inflation could be a problem. Wages always lag inflation. It's complicated. I doubt Georgia will elect two Democrat Senators. So I hope things can be better after mid terms.
COVID might have been a tipping point for Biden but was it as important in this election as we have been led to believe? It doesn't seem so to me. Else there would have been fewer votes for Trump and more seats handed to Democrats in the House and Senate. Sure, Trump probably lost because a few percent tipped to Biden due to CV and that is huge, don't get me wrong. Still though, more Black men voted for Trump than in 2016 and same with Latino men. There was no blue wave in Congress. To many, their vote was based upon pocketbook issue and Republicans seemed to do well with the voters on that topic. At least that's what I've heard on NPR and read elsewhere.

So, I think an important number of people will judge Biden on how he does in terms of jobs and economic status. Can't expand the economy in an epidemic, so CV becomes an economic issue, not a political issue in its own right. But after that, people will judge Biden according to their economic status. It's always been the economy. Yes, racial issues, civil rights issues, policing issues are all important. As Biden says we can walk and chew gum at the same time. But if people don't see movement toward a better future for themselves, it won't matter.
 

hanimmal

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COVID might have been a tipping point for Biden but was it as important in this election as we have been led to believe? It doesn't seem so to me. Else there would have been fewer votes for Trump and more seats handed to Democrats in the House and Senate. Sure, Trump probably lost because a few percent tipped to Biden due to CV and that is huge, don't get me wrong. Still though, more Black men voted for Trump than in 2016 and same with Latino men. There was no blue wave in Congress. To many, their vote was based upon pocketbook issue and Republicans seemed to do well with the voters on that topic. At least that's what I've heard on NPR and read elsewhere.

So, I think an important number of people will judge Biden on how he does in terms of jobs and economic status. Can't expand the economy in an epidemic, so CV becomes an economic issue, not a political issue in its own right. But after that, people will judge Biden according to their economic status. It's always been the economy. Yes, racial issues, civil rights issues, policing issues are all important. As Biden says we can walk and chew gum at the same time. But if people don't see movement toward a better future for themselves, it won't matter.
The same people that were so filled with propaganda that they thought (wrongly) the last 6 years of Obama was economically failed and that Trump came in and turned everything around?

If Biden wasn't the nominee, Trump would have had more traction with his socialist/racist propaganda and swept back into office, and the lies would have been governmentally sanctioned for 4 more years. At least now there is some hope for some pushback on the lies as the ones of the last 4 years get drug out into the light.

This is especially true for the minority males who have been under the greatest attack since 2016.



Imagine how unprepared we would have been as a nation if we didn't have the information about the Russian led propaganda war for Trump to get re-eelcted. In 2016 we were blindsided, and didn't really find anything out about the attack really until 2018.
 

CunningCanuk

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COVID might have been a tipping point for Biden but was it as important in this election as we have been led to believe? It doesn't seem so to me. Else there would have been fewer votes for Trump and more seats handed to Democrats in the House and Senate. Sure, Trump probably lost because a few percent tipped to Biden due to CV and that is huge, don't get me wrong. Still though, more Black men voted for Trump than in 2016 and same with Latino men. There was no blue wave in Congress. To many, their vote was based upon pocketbook issue and Republicans seemed to do well with the voters on that topic. At least that's what I've heard on NPR and read elsewhere.

So, I think an important number of people will judge Biden on how he does in terms of jobs and economic status. Can't expand the economy in an epidemic, so CV becomes an economic issue, not a political issue in its own right. But after that, people will judge Biden according to their economic status. It's always been the economy. Yes, racial issues, civil rights issues, policing issues are all important. As Biden says we can walk and chew gum at the same time. But if people don't see movement toward a better future for themselves, it won't matter.
I remember seeing exit polls showing Biden voters were more concerned about racial inequalities than Covid.

Covid will be the focus for now but unless substantial progress is made with police reform and other racial issues, I fear the Biden administration will be seen as a failure by many who voted for him.

If getting through Covid isn’t a daunting enough task, making progress against centuries of racial inequities will be even more difficult. I hope the electorate has the patience required.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Lawrence: ‘Donald Trump’s Silence Is His Concession Speech’ | The Last Word | MSNBC

Lawrence O’Donnell explains why Donald Trump’s silence is the silence of a man who is terrified of what his life will become on January 20th.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I remember seeing exit polls showing Biden voters were more concerned about racial inequalities than Covid.

Covid will be the focus for now but unless substantial progress is made with police reform and other racial issues, I fear the Biden administration will be seen as a failure by many who voted for him.

If getting through Covid isn’t a daunting enough task, making progress against centuries of racial inequities will be even more difficult. I hope the electorate has the patience required.
African Americans run the democratic party and have Joe and the party by the balls, most are long term thinkers. Police and justice reform has super majority support among the public, so it is not a reach. All the "hot button" issues have super majority support, when you remove racism as a component, you get a clearer picture in the surveys.
 

mysunnyboy

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African Americans run the democratic party and have Joe and the party by the balls, most are long term thinkers. Police and justice reform has super majority support among the public, so it is not a reach. All the "hot button" issues have super majority support, when you remove racism as a component, you get a clearer picture in the surveys.
What???
 

hanimmal

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I remember seeing exit polls showing Biden voters were more concerned about racial inequalities than Covid.

Covid will be the focus for now but unless substantial progress is made with police reform and other racial issues, I fear the Biden administration will be seen as a failure by many who voted for him.

If getting through Covid isn’t a daunting enough task, making progress against centuries of racial inequities will be even more difficult. I hope the electorate has the patience required.
I don't think that they will need to wait long to see the stark difference between Trump's racist agenda and the way Biden wipes it from the map.

This article was long, too long to post, but worth reading if you are curious.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-first-executive-orders-measures/2020/11/07/9fb9c1d0-210b-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.htmlScreen Shot 2020-11-12 at 7.42.32 AM.png
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's my way of saying African Americans are important in the democratic party and their issues will not be ignored. Black women are increasingly the backbone of the democratic party in terms of organization, Stacey Abrahams is vital right now and with that goes power. Joe owes Clyburn bigly too.
 

schuylaar

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Apparently when they get to 270 votes the Electoral College will be abolished. And right now they are at 194 or 196
good most hated next to unlimited campaign donations.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'm in Oklahoma and it's legal here...dont need it legal on federal level
Thinking and caring about others is what makes a community, country and a patriot. Federal legalization will improve your life too and reduce much unnecessary suffering, you don't care about much it seems, except yourself.
 

mysunnyboy

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It's my way of saying African Americans are important in the democratic party and their issues will not be ignored. Black women are increasingly the backbone of the democratic party in terms of organization, Stacey Abrahams is vital right now and with that goes power. Joe owes Clyburn bigly too.
Important definitely but far from running the Democratic Party imho.
 
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