Big Buddha Cheese

Well time to start another grow, this time it's again a vertical grow with Big Buddha Cheese, 8/18.
Started 7 seeds in water for 36 hrs then into paper towels for another 24 plus hours, then into coco solo's.
It only took a day for three of the solo's to pop and another day for the forth, but nothing since. I just put 3 more seeds soaking and then into paper towels. Hope to put them into coco solo's in the morning.
Normally I get 90 plus % germ, not sure what I will get with this, but hate having to plant 10 seeds to get at least 5 up.






I am so ready for this grow, hope to get enough to make a good batch of FECO.

GR

Pulling up a chair and brewing a fresh pot of coffee brother @gr865

Welcome Brother OHD,

Wow, yesterday after 11 days two more beans popped. So now I am at 6 up so at least I will be able to make a selection of 5 out of that total. Still waiting on the three that I planted in coco solo's on Monday, the above post say's that I did it on Tues, but that was a cut and paste from Sunday that I posted here on Tuesday.
I am hoping to get a couple more to make my selection from. The ones not chosen to go into the vert tent will be given away to good cause.

Here we are 14 days in, starting their 3rd and 4th sets of leaves, except for the two that just pop'ed a few days ago. They are beginning to yellow a bit so I gave the 4 that are showing signs of N def.
0.72 EC, that's 1 ml Cal/Magic, .75 grams Epsom, 1 ml Root Excl.Gold, 1 ml Canna A&B and pH'ed to 5.81.
The two that just pop'ed earlier this week got a drench of pH'ed Cal/Magic,and Roots Gold, will get this till the 3rd leaf stage.
Letting the 6 that are up dry fairly well prior to watering, working on the root system.



Just took a better look, got a bit of Cal/Mag def., glad it hit them with Cal/Magic and Epson today.
GR

Five days have passed since my last update, still under the T5's and doing well. Cal/Mag deficiency is taken care of and growth is doing well.

Can still see a bit of deficiency on the lower leaves of the bigger plants, but all is OK.
Roots checked yesterday, filling in nicely, will get pics soon. Hope to transplant next week into their final growing pots, 2 gallon Smart Pots in coco.
Time to start getting the tent ready, everything has been cleaned and sanitized, drip system ready to set back up. Considering moving the main rez to a lower position and attempt to reduce the amount of drainage upon system shutdown.
O.68 EC, all plants, and a pH of 5.84, watered yesterday and expect to be watering every other day or so. With the root growth I am seeing it won't be a couple of days before beginning daily watering's until I transplant the start the rooting game all over to fill the smart pots.

GR

Checked the roots in the Solo cups this AM and will be transplanting into their final pots today.
This is one of the two plants that are about a week behind the other three.

Still debating the two or three gallon Smart Pots, my main hesitation is the amount of solution that will be used comparing the two sizes. I don't want to have to be filling the rez daily and going to the three gallon pots will increase my nute solution usage by 0.5%.
I do plan on increasing the size of my rez and moving it to where it will be on a more level plane with the plants, so that should reduce the additional solution draining from the mainline into the pots. If I can get better control over my solution distribution I think I can get by with the 3 gallon. I would sure like to have the extra root space.
Any thoughts?

GR

As stated on Friday I transplanted today but went up to a 3 gallon Smart Pot. Have 6 plants to choose from to get my 5 needed for the vertical grow.
This is the process.
i place an empty Solo in the transplant pot, water with low nute and pH'ed solution to set the coco and then remove the Solo. This is what is looks like with the cup removed.



Then we remove the seedling from it Solo cup and place it in the hole in the coco. Works great, treat the hole prior to putting in the seedling with Great White. Then they are drenched again with a low EC and pH'ed solution.


Here they are back in the tent and placed under the 315 CMH for the first time, at 23 inches light to plant.


Will be placing either clay pellets, Grow Stone or course Perlite on the surface to prevent both the coco moving during watering's and fungal gnat control.

Am hoping that increasing the pot size does not come back to bite me in the butt. Going to have to do a little redesign on my screens but should not be that big an issue. Main thing I am concerned about the amount of nute solution I will be using and the increased weight, having to move the plants in and out to work tying them back to the screens.
Let's do this!

GR

Nice looking...enjoying the show!

Just a little update, not much going on, did the second watering of the transplants on Thursday @ 0.8EC and 5.82 pH. Got some good solid growth and good color.





It has been 27 days since they first went into a jar of mild pH'ed nute solution to soak for 36 hrs prior to putting them on paper towels to germinate. It has been 4 days since transplanting into these 3 gallon Smart Pots and putting a single 315W CMH on them. They are definitely Indica dominate.

Just for a reference point here is a pic from transplanting day on 9/10.



I will be adding a bit more coco to the pots and then top them off with about an
1 1/2" of Grow Stones (the spun glass product) to discourage Fungal Gnats, the little bastards.


I am also redoing my drip rings for the pots. Have ordered the parts and going have it all ready to go by next weekend, when I hope to put the system together.

Till next post,

GR

So OK I am impressed.
I transplanted on Monday 9/10 into the three gallon Smart Pots from the Solo cups, gave them a good watering with nute solution. Did another watering with solution on Thursday evening. This morning Saturday 9/15,





I have become a big fan of Great White, they will be getting another watering tonight or in the morning. Getting them roots thick in the pots for max growth.

gr865 said:

So OK I am impressed.
I transplanted on Monday 9/10 into the three gallon Smart Pots from the Solo cups, gave them a good watering with nute solution. Did another watering with solution on Thursday evening. This morning Saturday 9/15,

I have become a big fan of Great White, they will be getting another watering tonight or in the morning. Getting them roots thick in the pots for max growth.

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nice grow, ive got a cross growing out now from the first ever release of the Big Buddha UK Cheese in regular seed form from about 9 years ago, she' great gear, hey, im not sure if the roots are supposed to be growing out the sides of those cloth pots? i read that the roots grow inside a fabric pot & 'air prune' thereby making a finer & more widespread root structure? have you used these type of pot before? maybe look at another type to use?

greencropper said:

nice grow, ive got a cross growing out now from the first ever release of the Big Buddha UK Cheese in regular seed form from about 9 years ago, she' great gear, hey, im not sure if the roots are supposed to be growing out the sides of those cloth pots? i read that the roots grow inside a fabric pot & 'air prune' thereby making a finer & more widespread root structure? have you used these type of pot before? maybe look at another type to use?

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Yes I have grown in Smart Pots now for a number of years. The way the pots work is as the roots reach the side of the pot instead of curling and becoming root bound they grow through the cloth and that is when they are root pruned.
Would love to have a cutting of that cheese.

Today I removed the plants from the tent, got it ready for my drip system, supported the frame/tray, raised the back of the frame just a touch to get the liquids to flow forward. Do not have the drainage hooked up yet, so just removing the liquids with a shop vac.







Once every thing was support, cleaned and put back into the tent, did a good watering to about 30% runoff. 0.85 EC and 5.83 pH. Will start increasing the EC later this week.
Notice, until I am ready to go vertical I slant the lights a tad, gives better coverage I believe.

gr865 said:

Yes I have grown in Smart Pots now for a number of years. The way the pots work is as the roots reach the side of the pot instead of curling and becoming root bound they grow through the cloth and that is when they are root pruned.
Would love to have a cutting of that cheese.

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funny but i havnt seen my roots grow out the side like that in my fabric pots? and i grew a lot last season in fabric of a number of different brands? may i ask if you can continue to take closeup pics of those protruding roots evey few days so we can see what happens to them please?
my UK Cheese has been crossed with others so its not the pure form now, link below
http://www.rollitup.org/t/2018-2019-outdoor-grow-season.973928/page-2#post-1443407

You may need to check your root health.

The roots may protrude out the side of the pot maybe 1/4" then they turn brown. In the meantime, the root on the inside of the pot will start branching where they exited the side of the pot.


Plastic Pot vs. Smart Pot, note the wrapped around roots in the plastic pot, that does not happen with Smart Pots.

For Drain to Waste hydro these pots are the tit's, IMHO!

Weekly Update! Days 6 since transplant.

Here are the ladies on 9/10 the day of transplant.


And here they are last night, 9/16, 6 days since transplant.


I added the second light, note that I tilt the lamp at this point, feel I get better coverage. Will keep this configuration until I set the lights up for vertical, should be about 4 weeks or so, dependent of growth.


Getting very good growth now, gave them a good soak last night, to about 30 plus % runoff. This week I will be working on setting up the drip system, new parts should be here today.
Trying something a little different to the system on this run. Will explain when I set it up and see if it works.

This pic was taken on 9/10



And 6 days later 9/16

Just a note, when I added the second lamp temps rose from 78 degrees to 83 degrees. I increased the speed of the Max Fan and have that temp on the high side down to 81 degrees. Have not started using the AC unit as of yet.

greencropper said:

funny but i havnt seen my roots grow out the side like that in my fabric pots? and i grew a lot last season in fabric of a number of different brands? may i ask if you can continue to take closeup pics of those protruding roots evey few days so we can see what happens to them please?
my UK Cheese has been crossed with others so its not the pure form now, link below
http://www.rollitup.org/t/2018-2019-outdoor-grow-season.973928/page-2#post-1443407

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As I said they get a given length and die off.

gr865 said:

As I said they get a given length and die off.
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its all good there, just that i never noticed those roots growing outside like that...

Today I set up for vertical. hung one lamp top horizontal, and the lower lamp is vertical. As the ladies grow I will hang the 2nd lamp vertical.
Here they are set for the lamps.



After the lamps and fan are added.



Thumb is blocking the lamp.

Here is the rez, just setting this thing up. I moved it to the tub to get negative flow after shut down of the system, it used to drain about 10 feet of 3/4" tubing, now there is no drainage after shutdown.



GR