Smokey57
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Should work great. I ran 1 minute on, 5 minutes off, 24/7
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gr865
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Will just have to test it and see what it will need. The reason I chose those numbers was from reading about them online, so they are very subject to change.
I am buying a cycle timer, not sure which one yet, but may only run X amt of seconds with a lesser start time. ie, 15 seconds on an a couple of minutes off. Just don't want to heat the water much.
What are you adding to your water prior to pH'ing? CloneX, and are you adding something like a very lite solution of Rapid Start or like products, then pH?
I am buying a cycle timer, not sure which one yet, but may only run X amt of seconds with a lesser start time. ie, 15 seconds on an a couple of minutes off. Just don't want to heat the water much.
What are you adding to your water prior to pH'ing? CloneX, and are you adding something like a very lite solution of Rapid Start or like products, then pH?
gr865
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These three plants, same strain but different pheno, that I will be taking clone from are the one's that I had my friend take to his place to nurture, while I was in Florida.
I did not know until I picked them up, about 4 weeks later, that he had put them in his flower tent about two weeks prior to me getting them from him. Why, I ask? He responded, don't know did not think that would make any difference.
Well it has taken a long time to get them back into veg and they are still not producing branches I can use as clones. They are branching big time but they are monster crop branches, a shit load of them but they are all small. Think I will need at least a couple of weeks in the tent after these clones mothers are finished their flowering. I have had them under T5's since I got them back and just this weekend
I replaced the T5's with my SS 400 LED to hopefully get this bitch out of the flower mode.
Note the deformed leaves, single fan leaves, and they are still producing calyxes.
I did not know until I picked them up, about 4 weeks later, that he had put them in his flower tent about two weeks prior to me getting them from him. Why, I ask? He responded, don't know did not think that would make any difference.
Well it has taken a long time to get them back into veg and they are still not producing branches I can use as clones. They are branching big time but they are monster crop branches, a shit load of them but they are all small. Think I will need at least a couple of weeks in the tent after these clones mothers are finished their flowering. I have had them under T5's since I got them back and just this weekend
I replaced the T5's with my SS 400 LED to hopefully get this bitch out of the flower mode.
Note the deformed leaves, single fan leaves, and they are still producing calyxes.
pinner420
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I just got a bottle of canna start.... 15mls in ro gets me to 1.0 ec 15mls ryzo!
gr865
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Thanks Pin,
I will look that up, and you say you also add Rhizotonic?
gr865
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Yes this is my first with a cloning machine. I use to start my clones and seeds in Root Riot cubes, then I went to straight coco (which I liked a lot) and now moving to cloning machine.
I am still looking to find out how to plant the clone w/roots into coco and when to plant them.
Don't think I would second guess them either.
pinner420
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Back when I was using mine I'd wait till the root mass was the size of my fist then into the coco... I was utilizing a nutramist that was tits.... to hard to keep up with the plates burning out but when it was operational the micron droplets did the trick.... now I'm gonna fire up a low pressure aero like you....
gr865
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The only pump I have is a eco 1056 which is over 1000 gph and a 9 foot lift, so it puts out the water. Will try to post a video when I fill it again. I am sure it will completely cover the tank and clones.
Smokey57
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gr865
I didn't keep very good records. I was just playing around. A matter of fact, once i finished playing I either gave them away or mostly they just got tossed (i know, that's a sin). All I can get in my small town is Holland Secret nutes 3 part (grow,micro,bloom) I gave it 10% of early veg and maybe some hyrdoguard. I do remember I wanted clonex but couldn't get it here.
Sorry I couldn't be much help.
smokey
ps small town, biggest city is 1500 km if I stay in Canada. Shipping is cost prohibited. Not everything is amazon prime. IF I drive out in the summer I usually fill the truck up. bags of coco and nutes.
S
Smokey57
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gr865
I have the same problem. I didn't find this pheno until the third week of flower. Took some tops and put them in coco. Can't believe they survived. Not sure what to do with it now. How do I know when it has reverted back to a veg state? It was 3 inches tall when i planted it.
gr865
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Smokey, check out my Monster Crop journal, it was a wild fucking ride dude.
The most work I have had to put into a grow since I started growing in coco. But it was fun, I will not do it again for awhile, for sure, but it was fun!
gr865
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Update:
Week 7, day 49 of 12/12
Cruise control, just add one round of Dry KoolBloom @ 1.25 grams per gallon. That took my EC from around 1.3 + to just under 1.4. I can live with that. This will only run for 4 days or so, then flush with 1.0 solution till the EC of the rinsate is around 1.0. That should happen around day 53 then I will begin diluting the solution till final flush.
It is hard getting good pics with the plants inside the tent, but it is just too damn heavy to move them around.
GR
Week 7, day 49 of 12/12
Cruise control, just add one round of Dry KoolBloom @ 1.25 grams per gallon. That took my EC from around 1.3 + to just under 1.4. I can live with that. This will only run for 4 days or so, then flush with 1.0 solution till the EC of the rinsate is around 1.0. That should happen around day 53 then I will begin diluting the solution till final flush.
It is hard getting good pics with the plants inside the tent, but it is just too damn heavy to move them around.
GR
gr865
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This was my last fall/winter grow, 5 plants Barneys Farm LSD.
These two pics were taken on 2/22/17
This pic was taken 2/5/17 side view
pinner420
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I've seen reveg take 60 days to get them planing out again... granted that's the worst I've seen...
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gr865
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I picked them back up from my friend on 11/8 
and they were transplanted into the 1 gallon smart pots on 12/1 
, and they are still showing signs of flower, but trying to reveg, and here they were on 12/15 
I gave 10 of them to my friend and he has been flowering them now 20 days. Started them in flower as soon as he got them.
and they were transplanted into the 1 gallon smart pots on 12/1 , and they are still showing signs of flower, but trying to reveg, and here they were on 12/15 I gave 10 of them to my friend and he has been flowering them now 20 days. Started them in flower as soon as he got them.
gr865
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Update: Week 8 Day 56
Just a few days to go, may harvest a couple of them this weekend, then the rest on day 63.
Day 6 of flush, began adding RO and just Drip Clean, 0.6 ml daily @ 3 gallons per day. Each days last of 4 irrigation cycles get whatever is remaining in the rez (approx. 0.5 to 1 gallon) and I refill with RO and Drip Clean. EC of today's solution is < 0.014 and rinsate is also < 0.1 so by the time I harvest I expect somewhere around 0.01, pH of the rinsate is a very steady 5.8 to 5.82.
I know the reason for the curled and burnt leaf tips, little flushing during the grow and the EC is off the scale. I believe this is due to lack of runoff during the cycles and the KoolBloom, both liquid and dry. Prior to adding them there was no build up in the root zone and I got away from my normal 400 ppm of Canna A&B, increase to 600 ppm prior to adding remainder of additives, around 1.2 EC. The EC then jumps to > 1.4 - 1.5 when adding the additives and dry KoolBloom. Will be working on this in future grows.
Just a few days to go, may harvest a couple of them this weekend, then the rest on day 63.
Day 6 of flush, began adding RO and just Drip Clean, 0.6 ml daily @ 3 gallons per day. Each days last of 4 irrigation cycles get whatever is remaining in the rez (approx. 0.5 to 1 gallon) and I refill with RO and Drip Clean. EC of today's solution is < 0.014 and rinsate is also < 0.1 so by the time I harvest I expect somewhere around 0.01, pH of the rinsate is a very steady 5.8 to 5.82.
I know the reason for the curled and burnt leaf tips, little flushing during the grow and the EC is off the scale. I believe this is due to lack of runoff during the cycles and the KoolBloom, both liquid and dry. Prior to adding them there was no build up in the root zone and I got away from my normal 400 ppm of Canna A&B, increase to 600 ppm prior to adding remainder of additives, around 1.2 EC. The EC then jumps to > 1.4 - 1.5 when adding the additives and dry KoolBloom. Will be working on this in future grows.