big distance between leaves, what's wrong?

DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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deadstoner said:
what about the electricity? i heard that it will be very expensive, especially i have a big grow tent i might use 2 or 3 cmh
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If you want to get that tent full of plants that’s just what you need. Maybe buy 1 cmh put 2 plants under it. Just to learn how to grow and buy more lights later when your skill level is up no point running 3 lights and paying heaps of power if your aren’t getting any product. This will also let you know how much electricity you will use per light.
 
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deadstoner

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DustyDuke said:
If you want to get that tent full of plants that’s just what you need. Maybe buy 1 cmh put 2 plants under it. Just to learn how to grow and buy more lights later when your skill level is up no point running 3 lights and paying heaps of power if your aren’t getting any product. This will also let you know how much electricity you will use per light.
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very good idea, thanks dude
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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deadstoner said:
my gow tent size is 240*120*200cm
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in order to give enough light to flowering plants onto this area you need a light-output of around 200 000 lumen.
2*HPS or
3*CMH or
800W from the wall in high quality LED like 4*200W quantum board

the LED will save you around 30% electricity cost, cause less heat issues in summer, but it will cost 5 times more to begin with.
 
Renfro

Renfro

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deadstoner said:
I'm living in Malaysia currently, and it's a bit to hard to find any thing not from china, i searched for Quantum Boards and cheepest one is for 500$ usd and it will come from china
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Isn't Malaysia pretty tough on marijuana? I heard there is a mandatory death penalty for dealing.
 
Renfro

Renfro

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What about those chinese QB knockoffs that are always on alibaba? People have had pretty good results with those.
 
DCcan

DCcan

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deadstoner said:
i tried to find fox farm soil, but i couldn't find any in my country, so this the best option organic soil i had available
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That soil is primarily coco peat, with added humus, sand, burnt husks etc, and added gypsum (label says "breaks clay/adds calcium"= gypsum).
Thats a common soil recipe in tropical areas, it may need to break down longer and add more organic matter to take off. I think your plant is having a hard time extracting nutrients with that mix, more than light spectrum issues. That is a lot of red causing stretch, adding a compact fluorescent bulb above it will help control that.

Since that is coco based and seems to have only sand for drainage, you may want to add more perlite/ volcanic pumice next run. Keep an eye out for calcium deficiency using coco, dont know how much is in that mix, and lower PH water may be needed also in a heavy coco based soil.
The nitrogen is not locked in (mostly from charcoal) and is going to be highly mobile in that mix until microbes establish.

Get some Epsom salts and beneficial microbes to use with your molasses.
Your Azomite, gypsum and kelp juice should cover the micro nutrients pretty well.
Once you get your local mix dialed in, you are in the club:D.
 
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deadstoner

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Kassiopeija said:
in order to give enough light to flowering plants onto this area you need a light-output of around 200 000 lumen.
2*HPS or
3*CMH or
800W from the wall in high quality LED like 4*200W quantum board

the LED will save you around 30% electricity cost, cause less heat issues in summer, but it will cost 5 times more to begin with.
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ok, i don't like led that much i will try 1 cmh first then will see how ir goes, i hope electricity will not be that high
 
Renfro

Renfro

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deadstoner

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DCcan said:
That soil is primarily coco peat, with added humus, sand, burnt husks, and added gypsum (label says "breaks clay/adds calcium= gypsum").
Thats a common soil recipe in tropical areas, it may need to break down longer and add more organic matter to take off. I think your plant is having a hard time extracting nutrients with that mix, more than light spectrum issues. That is a lot of red causing stretch, adding a compact fluorescent bulb above it will help control that.

Since that is coco based and seems to have only sand for drainage, you may want to add more perlite/ volcanic pumice next run. Keep an eye out for calcium deficiency using coco, dont know how much is in that mix, and lower PH water may be needed also in a heavy coco based soil.

Get some Epsom salts and beneficial microbes to use with your molasses.
Your Azomite, gypsum and kelp juice should cover the micro nutrients pretty well.
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very useful informations, i will buy all the things you mentioned, also want to ask you , what are the best nutrients for a big yield
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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deadstoner said:
i didn't know they would be lying about the led light power, ordering a new light will take some time to arrive, what i can do to save her from stretching more
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Throw some cfl's in there. You can get them very close.
They will reduce stretch
 
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