Bigger buds

peckham.tel

Active Member
Hi guys I am growing well using bio bizz the whole range even the soil, but is there a bud enhancer that can boost me even more ???? My last grow was 18 dry oz from 9 plants.
 

Mother's Finest

Well-Known Member
Bigger buds and a larger harvest are two separate considerations. Growing the biggest bud possible on each plant probably won't yield as much as growing many smaller buds.

For best yield from a strain, you have to be an expert in that strain. Some respond better than others to various training techniques and you'll need to know which work for your strain to maximize yield. Ours yield best when we cut off a total of three tops. We top them and then top the two tallest shoots that jump up after the first trimming. This usually makes for 6 colas per plant. We've tried growing more or less at once but yield decreased either way. Six heads is the magic number for our plants and a little experimenting will tell you the magic numbers for yours.
 

jawbrodt

Well-Known Member
Unless your plants were deficient, it's not nutes that you need, it's more light. Light determines yield, above all else.
 

grime mc

Member
wagwan G
Im using Bio Bizz too, they say that they dont claim you will get the biggest heaviest buds but ur plants will be healthy n bud dam tasty,, [fuckin amazin customer service too]
What strain are you growing,?
like some one said "light light n more light" but with that come extraction extraction and more extraction and then,,,, more bloody intake ect,
more light is not always the key as i proved to a mate of mine, he was running a 1000w i was running a 600w, i got 612g he got 570g [same strain], my room was spot on, his left room for improvement ,oh we were both using NFT trays that i made and both using canna base nuets + the same add on's along with the same carbon filters and same 6inch extractor fans, same 4inch intake fans he thought it was enough and i knew he needed more extraction and a dehumidifier [i had one ,he didn't], in the end he got bud rot but even if he hadn't his yield would not of been much more than mine due to the fact mine was more efficient,
Any way, this is my fist soil grow so i am in the experimenting faze, look into Bud candy and maybe hammerhead with a splash of DR Hornbys BigBud, but you will not be able to say its "organic" ,i dont know if that bothers you but if it does just think to your self you grow under lights in a tent [maybe] and control every detail you can no matter how tiny, how "organic" is that,?
I am far from a expert so please dont rush out n buy them products but look into them and ask around [growers not grow shops].
If you come across any info on good organic boosters tho can you let me kno,? i like to use organic stuff but i aint hung up on it [no offence meant to any1] , yer like i said im no pro and im a novice with soil really but i do have 7+ years of hydro grows under my belt..
Any way r you from Pecknarm,??
Oh also the small things all add up, like root temps, night temps ,humidity ,not havin a proper wet n dry cycle ,not pottin up, pot size over crowded plant numbers ect ect, its just a case of getting as little wrong as poss and leaving nothing to chance, say if 3 things aint perfect then on there own each thing aint to bad but all together,??
sorry if you know all that and every thing is 110% then plz dont think im some next ignorant prick coz im only tryin to help and by askin how to get bigger buds suggests things aint 110% [mine aint but its about 95% spot on]
stay blessed n let us kno how ya get on [oh if ya British "keep it grimey"]
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
612 g out of a 600? Have any pics of the set up (the nft)? I would love to see something on this, about to redesign my room and add a veg and currently considering all options.
 

grime mc

Member
612 g out of a 600? Have any pics of the set up (the nft)? I would love to see something on this, about to redesign my room and add a veg and currently considering all options.
i live in the UK so i dont take pics as a rule, but some times ego gets the better of me, i think ive got one or two, ill find my old hard drive n check for ya, in the mean time if u have any questions ill do my best to answer as best i can..
I will say that that particular harvest was one of my best as i put all my hart n soul in it, and the strain was a hybrid i made from a shit hot peak 19 pheno id had fe a long long time crossed with big bud then back crossed with the peak 19, that was then crossed with a top british skunk clone, the out come was a fussy feedin HIGH yielding beauty.
It took a long time for me to get to the "holy grail" of a gram per watt, i kno these days its easier to do for some people any way, but i got to know the strain very well and my set up was right on the money. [i kno nuff man hate on bigbud but a bit of it thrown into the mix with a small yielding strain can help, it worked for me]
If you believe every ting advanced say, then a beginner can do it with there nuets "ha ha".
My NFT was a simple gully design but i had extra air stones at the first 5inch of the gully just before the water hit the roots, i also always did my best to stop all the roots becoming one big mess and tangling up with one another but the main aid was the whole room running in sync ,the fact that i cut off most other aspects of my life helped, in them days growing was me, if that makes sense,? i defined myself by growing it was whole life and when i think back to it ,it was a bit sad really as i reckon the same results can be had without all the sacrifice.
As well remember what works for you might not work for me n visa versa, find what works for you n dont let any one sway ya or tell ya different..
Oh one last thing,, i 200% honest believe in vertical bulb reflectors like parabolic reflectors and the grostar reflectors, they give you more bang fe ya buck, plus very little to no hot spots ,more even light spread, just better in every way, only down side is the aint air cooled but ya can get round that if needs be, in shitty british weather tho its not much of a problem.
Like i said im far from a pro but i love what i do and i try not to think im right all the time, that way i keep learning, if i can offer ya any advice id be happy to tho..
 

officernasty

Active Member
if you want more weight (yield) use more light, more light = more yield but there is this stuff called black strap molasses and if you put 1tbsp per gallon with your water 1 week before you put them into flowering and all the way through flowering your plant will explode, its made for cooking but instead of going to stores searching for it i got some off ebay for cheap
 

peckham.tel

Active Member
Cheers boys and yes Se London, I ain't no ghetto boy though lol, well in my 1st room I got four double 4th cfl then they get removed and flooded with a 600w hps once on the way they move into other room with two 600w where they live till harvest and and so ..........
Yeah I got a good space with right number of plants and right size pots, this was just a cheap deal for indoor seeds but weren't individually labled !!!! I got a few autos going now wanna try them, on my next proper grow wanna grow something decent and give it best I can. I can prob step up a bit better with extraction and co2 !?!?!
 

grime mc

Member
you should be gettin atleast 50% more dry weight from 2 600w, well your using 1800w and pullin about 520g,?? either mans math gone crazy or i would be lookin into wots goin on,?
that said tho, whats your turn around,? how long do ya veg for,?
18bricks aint bad fe 9 plants but for 1800w of light id be expecting double, aint that about 0.3g a watt,?? cud be the strains but if it was a mix bag like ya say then surly they cant all be low yielding.
with all that said tho if your growin some fire herb n ur happy with it then fuck da numbers, gimmie 18z of spankin herbs over 40z of shit any day.
Sorry if its to early in the day fe maths n i got that shit all mixed up, i aint slept yet, too much bull ish from last night to deal wit..
Laters G
 

norcali

Well-Known Member
i have a great master bedroom going right now i pull 470g per 600, 8 600w lights all air cooled and co2 enriched


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peckham.tel

Active Member
Sorry "grime" I shoulda said I only managed to add my second 600w in large room for the last 2 1/2 weeks, I been to my locale shop this morn and was advised to try "Dutch pro- explode " he said I should notice a difference and £25 for 250 ml I bloody better but it's only a ml a litre so not to bad I guess.
 

grime mc

Member
Sorry "grime" I shoulda said I only managed to add my second 600w in large room for the last 2 1/2 weeks, I been to my locale shop this morn and was advised to try "Dutch pro- explode " he said I should notice a difference and £25 for 250 ml I bloody better but it's only a ml a litre so not to bad I guess.
cool ok that explains a bit, are you going to do a side by side with the Dutch pro,?? i recommend you dont give it to atleast one plant,? i know you might think that you could loose out on a bit of your harvest if you leave one girl without it but it can help you find out if it is worth the money,?? thats what i always have done when a product is new to me,? if you do then try to make it as fair as you can, say if you have a strain were you have a clear difference in pheno types ,pick 2 pheno's and give the product to one but not the other [or clones from the same plant] as you will get a better idea how much it will work..

Shit, i remembered earlier, do you know much about Plagron green sensation,?? i have not used it myself but i know some one who's opinion i trust, he has been growing for longer than i have been alive, he is top notch too,he said its one of the best out there, but its around £36+ for 250ml, i am going to get some in a few days and i have two nice Reserva Privada x18 pure Pakistani which im going to test it on.
I also wanted to ask u, do you foliar feed,?
If not then check out what it can do for ya,?
Let us kno how ya get on..

 

don2009

Well-Known Member
wagwan G

Oh also the small things all add up, like root temps, night temps ,humidity ,not havin a proper wet n dry cycle ,not pottin up, pot size over crowded plant numbers ect ect, its just a case of getting as little wrong as poss and leaving nothing to chance, say if 3 things aint perfect then on there own each thing aint to bad but all together,??
sorry if you know all that and every thing is 110% then plz dont think im some next ignorant prick coz im only tryin to help and by askin how to get bigger buds suggests things aint 110% [mine aint but its about 95% spot on]
stay blessed n let us kno how ya get on [oh if ya British "keep it grimey"]
Good job bro + rep thats some important shit that we dont pay attention strickly and a few other things but that was real good
 
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