Black ash PLEASE HELP

Just an update....today marks 14 days of drying time. Flowers are nice and crispy on the outside but not crispy on the inside of the bud. Smaller stems snap off while the bigger stems barely snap. Anyway my point is that I know that I'm not drying too quickly and I'm not jarring too early but the outcome is still the same nasty tasting black ash shit. What's crazy is that I grew 2 different strains and the other strain wasn't even all the way dry and it was straight fire...I don't beleive its genetics considering I've tried over 6 different strains and all the same outcome except for the one I mentioned. The one i mentioned is straight gas while the other is just like the other strains (chlorophyll taste) how can I still have chlorophyll left in the bud after 14 days of drying. Temps are hovering around 58 to 60 and humidity around 55 to 60.

Nice-guy-eddy said:

Just an update....today marks 14 days of drying time. Flowers are nice and crispy on the outside but not crispy on the inside of the bud. Smaller stems snap off while the bigger stems barely snap. Anyway my point is that I know that I'm not drying too quickly and I'm not jarring too early but the outcome is still the same nasty tasting black ash shit. What's crazy is that I grew 2 different strains and the other strain wasn't even all the way dry and it was straight fire...I don't beleive its genetics considering I've tried over 6 different strains and all the same outcome except for the one I mentioned. The one i mentioned is straight gas while the other is just like the other strains (chlorophyll taste) how can I still have chlorophyll left in the bud after 14 days of drying. Temps are hovering around 58 to 60 and humidity around 55 to 60.

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I'd throw them in a jar with a hygrometer and stabilize them. Just check the RH often at first, and burp the jars a couple times a day if they're in the ~62% range.

Post a pic of the buds as well as the ash, on the joint and the ash drop.

Last guy that had awful tasting weed ending up finding out his neighbors were spraying chemicals in his laundry exhaust which he was using as his grow exhaust.

Do you have any neighbors that don't like you growing?

Just a little story for ya'll.

One fall, late September or early October I was drying some plants out in my travel trailer because the wife didn't want me stinking up the house.

The temps and humidity were good. Then before the plants were fully done drying but still dry enough to roll a joint and smoke, I tried a few samples of all the plants over the next couple of days. The taste was amazing and they burned very well.

Then I had to go out of town on business for a couple days and it got very hot outside and heated the travel trailer up big time. The weed dried out past optimum moisture levels. After that it burned like shit (black ash) and tasted like shit compared to how it tasted the day before. It was ruined.

I don't know the exact science behind it to explain this phenomenon but I do know it was improperly dried and that alone ruined what was good weed a few days earlier.

So in my opinion it's either improper drying/curing that cause the black ash issue.

Also I have run into a few strains from budget seed banks that wouldn't burn no matter how I grew and dried them out. So I guess sometimes genetics can just be bad too.

The common bro-science reason behind "black ash" is that the weed wasn't flushed properly and a lot of people still spread that nonsense in forums. I've vaped primarily for years, but even when I paid attention to ash, I had some great smoke with white ash and some great smoke with black ash, I wouldn't pay any attention at all to the ash. If your weed doesn't taste right to you, first make sure you actually grew it out to complete ripeness (most people don't). Lots of people harvest when the trichomes turn milky and they start seeing 5% amber, or whatever, then end up with grassy tasting weed since it was harvested weeks too early. Slow drying is also important, but it sounds like you are doing that. As long as you dry for at least 10 days without the bud going below 55%, it should be good flavor wise. It just takes practice, getting your harvesting/drying on point takes time. I like to get it a little dryer than most before going into jars/bags because it ends up tasting much better to me. I dried my last crop to 55%, bagged it (zero burping), and now two weeks later it's my best tasting crop in years, just pure fresh terpene goodness. I find the terpenes suffer greatly when you jar with too much moisture and end up burping a lot. You may never figure out what went wrong this time, just keep growing and take notes when something works and don't get stuck in a rut, doing the same thing over and over again, until you find a method that works well for you.

Six pages in and we still don't have a picture of the OPs plant and what he considers finished.

Nice-guy-eddy said:

Just an update....today marks 14 days of drying time. Flowers are nice and crispy on the outside but not crispy on the inside of the bud. Smaller stems snap off while the bigger stems barely snap. Anyway my point is that I know that I'm not drying too quickly and I'm not jarring too early but the outcome is still the same nasty tasting black ash shit. What's crazy is that I grew 2 different strains and the other strain wasn't even all the way dry and it was straight fire...I don't beleive its genetics considering I've tried over 6 different strains and all the same outcome except for the one I mentioned. The one i mentioned is straight gas while the other is just like the other strains (chlorophyll taste) how can I still have chlorophyll left in the bud after 14 days of drying. Temps are hovering around 58 to 60 and humidity around 55 to 60.

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Only answer possible is unripened harvest
Better luck next time
Come back with pics next time

twentyeight.threefive said:

Six pages in and we still don't have a picture of the OPs plant and what he considers finished.

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I definitely had troubles with low temps stunting the growth during flowering, but my last harvest I definitely waited until they were ripe and still the same outcome. Just a forewarning these plants are in terrible condition. The buds definitely get me a buzz but the taste is terrible. I actually just jarred some last night after hang drying for 14 days and then opened the jar this morning with a hygrometer reading inside the jar at 57 percent.

Nice-guy-eddy said:

I definitely had troubles with low temps stunting the growth during flowering, but my last harvest I definitely waited until they were ripe and still the same outcome. Just a forewarning these plants are in terrible condition. The buds definitely get me a buzz but the taste is terrible. I actually just jarred some last night after hang drying for 14 days and then opened the jar this morning with a hygrometer reading inside the jar at 57 percent.

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Yeah that's not even close to finished. Would explain the bad taste.

That’s your problem right there.
Gotta give them time.
You are harvesting much too early.

To be a little more precise, a bright, white ash shows that the tobacco has received enough magnesium and calcium from the soil.

Nice-guy-eddy said:

I definitely had troubles with low temps stunting the growth during flowering, but my last harvest I definitely waited until they were ripe and still the same outcome. Just a forewarning these plants are in terrible condition. The buds definitely get me a buzz but the taste is terrible. I actually just jarred some last night after hang drying for 14 days and then opened the jar this morning with a hygrometer reading inside the jar at 57 percent.

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what nutrients are you using?

Looks over fed

HydroKid239 said:

Looks over fed

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Does it look like too much N to you?

those pics above the buds look approx 7-8 weeks - maybe another 3-4 weeks couple goods feed- then 7-14 day dry - jar/bag for another 4+ weeks presto permo buds - just my view * still say black ash = learn to dry/cure , growing is easy - the end product is the learning curve ..

toomp said:

Does it look like too much N to you?

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Yes, but that’s probably not the entire problem.

HydroKid239 said:

Yes, but that’s probably not the entire problem.

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I thought so too, looks like ph issues aswell, im not a hydro guy though

Curing and growing weed properly creates a white ashe not flushing it with water for the last week or two after you've blasted it with super bud 9000 mega blaster terpinator purpinator.