I know a guy who grows with 90 and 120 watt ufo's and gets over 1gpw consistently - he just vegges longer and lollipops the shit out of his plants so there is no lower growth whatsoever, everything is up top. I've grown 7ft tall sativa's with my black dog and 2 ft tall indicas. 3" to 7 1/2" colas in diameter, rock hard colas and lower buds too, just like my old 1k hps. I've been doing this shit, off and on, for a long long time. I even had a problem with black dog initially - I was one of the first to have a problem with their lights, and had an issue with their warranty and service. Now they have a lifetime warranty, before it was 3 yr limited. If you want to be like everybody else buy hps/mh. If you want to step up to a whole new level of quality, try the bd700 or platinum xl. Put 2 to 4 plants under it, lst to even the canopy out and you will rock the shit out of it. Hands down, black dog led's are the best on the market period, and worth every penny, especially with the warranty. put your plants in bigger containers, too - the diff between a 3 and 5 gal container could be as much as 50 grams or more, bro, the bigger the better. Basically if you put 9 in a 5 x 5 footprint you would be perfect if you were growing sog, 1 or 2 scrog, 2 to 4 lst and veg a little bit longer for maximum yield and potency. A lot of seed breeders recommend at least a 50 day veg and I've seen some discussions of some Thai's that need over a year of veg time to come to full potency. And, yes, bro, you get what you pay for. there is a big difference between black dogs panels and cheap ones, even the blackstars are lightweights compared to these. 288 leds running over 2 watts each, 15 spectrums including uv and ir. there is a big, big difference and unless you've grown with both - black dog leds AND hps/mh, you'll never understand what I"m talking about. ANYTHING I put under this light comes out frosty as hell, tight as a rock and solid all the way down. by the way, I paid for my light, and I get no kickbacks, nothing out of the company, not even a discount. I just believe that if you are going to pay the money, get the best. I am also an industrial electrician with many many years of experience with lighting in industrial/commercial environments and even from that point Black Dog LED's are way, way better than hps/mh. I wish I had the rooms and the money, I'd outfit one complete with 8 1k hps and another with 8 bd 700's or the platinum xl's just to prove a point, only I just grow for myself, not in it for the money and never have been. Hope I've helped in some way. The only thing you have to change with led's is the light height during veg and flower and the temps in the growroom, as it will be much cooler in there now - although they do produce heat - these things use power, they are not underpowered lightweights like the blackstars. I would have bought hps before I'd have paid for any underpowered light. MOst led's, even if they do have the 3w led in them are still only being driven at 1watt or so, hence the lack of penetration. Not so with the black dogs and especially the platinum xl. If I'd known they were coming out with that one at the time, I'd have waited another 6 months or so, lol - that baby could grow some monster buds, as my bd 700 is frigging badass!! Later fellas!
View attachment 2157703View attachment 2157696View attachment 2157695View attachment 2157697View attachment 2157698View attachment 2157699View attachment 2157700View attachment 2157702View attachment 2157701View attachment 2157694 I can't seem to find my pics of the taller plants, dammit - working off my wife's laptop, I'll get out my old hdd and pull some pics off that. Also, none of these show the frost content properly, but everything is nice and frosty!!
