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snew

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Yes, there are leaves turn under on 2 of the plants, however, some that where curling under look good now. I think the tea I gave them last week may have provided what was needed. My last watering I added some epsons salt to the water because of yellowing on the leaves of another plant. So who knows what helped it but it seems to be improving. Everybody problems gets every answer, overfeeding, underfeeding, low nit, low mag, low cal. So I just took a shot since I knew I had not over feed since I had not feed.
I started seeing tricones about a week ago. I'm out so I smoked a few sugar leaves. Not bad I've smoked worse, but I started smoking years 35 years ago.
I was real impressed with the secondary bud grow. I've not been measuring them but they seem to have grew a good bit.
4-6 to six weeks I guess till harvest comes.
By the way the odor is really starting to increase. I have a odorsok filter and ona gel all over the place. Its not cutting it and I'm sure the odor will start to increase allot in the next few weeks. I'm going to try a DIY, I guess, since I do not have money for another filter at the moment.
Thanks for tasking the time to respond.
 

Kriegs

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This may not be an immediate option, since you mentioned money as an issue .. but at some point, you may want to get an ozonator. New England Hydro has some good ones at good prices.. a unit scaled for 1000 cubic feet should handle your grow no problem ($90 with shipping). Just don't put it where it blows right at your plants -- ozone burns leaves.

I thought these things were bullshit until I bought one. They really work, and mine freshens up a good part of the remainder of the house with its excess capacity.

BTW, it's "trichomes" -- not raggin' ya... You just seem like a person who likes things right.

And hey, I was in My Rollitup and found this: https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/178090-quick-dry-process-i-want.html

Didn't think I had that anymore but there it was; it's a nice refinement on the microwave drying process for "early sampling". Cheers..
 

snew

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This may not be an immediate option, since you mentioned money as an issue .. but at some point, you may want to get an ozonator. New England Hydro has some good ones at good prices.. a unit scaled for 1000 cubic feet should handle your grow no problem ($90 with shipping). Just don't put it where it blows right at your plants -- ozone burns leaves.

I thought these things were bullshit until I bought one. They really work, and mine freshens up a good part of the remainder of the house with its excess capacity.

BTW, it's "trichomes" -- not raggin' ya... You just seem like a person who likes things right.

And hey, I was in My Rollitup and found this: https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/178090-quick-dry-process-i-want.html

Didn't think I had that anymore but there it was; it's a nice refinement on the microwave drying process for "early sampling". Cheers..
Thanks Kriegs I spell for shit but I do try to take the time to make thins right.

As for the ozonator I've heard that there are issues about breathing it. So this prompted me to find out for sure.
http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
I'm reluctant to to try one since I circulate my grow room air from and into my house. Have you seen any problems since you installed yours? I'm starting to smell crap in my house so I have to make change. Odorsock is shit. Today I bought a activated carbon odor filter for an AC system took the activated charcoal filter sheet out of it and wrapped the odor sock with it. Only $10 I figured why not. Guess I'll be using for my AC system as a filter cause it didn't help all all with the smell. I figure in 2-3 weeks it will be wreaking.
The drying tread is great. Thanks I will try it.
My buds are starting to fill out now where they were just fluff there starting to get firmer. Is an amazing plant.
 

grow2smoke1

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I sure hope carbon filters really do what there suppose too.I'm so paranoid about my blackjacks smelling up the place.
 

snew

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Here we are at what I hope is at least half way through flowering. My tallest has grew a little its at 33½". But the buds are getting harder and fatter they are beautiful. There are some hairs turning brown/red, I took a picture but it doesn't do justice.

The smell is getting stronger. The odorsok and carbon sheet I rapped around it are useless. I have ona gel in the room and in the vent and citrus deodorizer outside the vent and my house still stank. Since money is tight I set off to DIY. It cost me $14 dollars. I put a link in the DIY so others can find it hope you like it. It does get easier.

https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/295076-carbon-filter-easiest-i-ever.html

I'm continuing to have the rust on my fan leaves so I've ask Uncle Ben to take a look so we'll see from there.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/267989-uncle-bens-gardening-tweeks-pointers-31.html#post3690656

My heater quit working, a oil fill radiator type. It leaked oil thankfully I noticed before it caught fire. Actually I think this may be better. I took the thermostat off set the fan on low and let it pull warm air from in my house. The low was 60.2°/high 75°. A little lower than I wanted but acceptable I hope.

I have to admit I've been taking a pinch each day. I know it will diminish my yield but I should have plenty to hold me through till the next harvest. I must say I am quite surprised at how good it is. Its as good as most of what I've smoked lately and it has weeks to go, can only get better.

Here are some pics. I hope its entertaining.

snew
 

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Kriegs

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Hey, snew... check my grow somewhere around page 3-4 to see what a real Mg deficiency looks like (actually, an imbalance caused by too much calcium from a bonehead decison I made about liming, but the plant sees it the same way). That's the real classic expression -- upcurl with marginal chlorosis, not spots. And I was able to temporarily resolve it with epsom salt.

The spots and curl you're seeing are precisely what I got last year when I switched from veg to bloom food too early in the grow. To a stone tee. I got off on the sorta-wrong track trying to fix it as a pH problem. I was able to arrest it with flushing, but that caused other issues. Anyway, the plants succeeded despite me. I won't say what I think you should or shouldn't do, not knowing everything that's going on in your grow, but there's some info for you to interpret to your situation.

All in all, I think if you just tread lightly and let the plants do their thing from here, you're far enough along that success is almost assured.
 

mafuki

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They look great and i love your avatar pic is your cat a taby? looks like it but im prob wrong.
 

snew

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Hey, snew... check my grow somewhere around page 3-4 to see what a real Mg deficiency looks like (actually, an imbalance caused by too much calcium from a bonehead decison I made about liming, but the plant sees it the same way). That's the real classic expression -- upcurl with marginal chlorosis, not spots. And I was able to temporarily resolve it with epsom salt.

The spots and curl you're seeing are precisely what I got last year when I switched from veg to bloom food too early in the grow. To a stone tee. I got off on the sorta-wrong track trying to fix it as a pH problem. I was able to arrest it with flushing, but that caused other issues. Anyway, the plants succeeded despite me. I won't say what I think you should or shouldn't do, not knowing everything that's going on in your grow, but there's some info for you to interpret to your situation.

All in all, I think if you just tread lightly and let the plants do their thing from here, you're far enough along that success is almost assured.
This is the response I got from doogleef on UB's tread:
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Actually looks like a slight K deficiency. Happens pretty often on tall plants like that.

K def symptoms
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- Mel Frank
Starting on the large lower leaves, the tips of the blades brown and die. Necrotic areas or spots form on the blades, particularly along the margins. Sometimes the leaves are spattered with chlorotic tissue before necrosis develops, and the leaves look pale or yellow. Symptoms may appear on indoor plants grown in a soil rich in organic material. This may be due to high salinity (Na) of some manures or composts used in the soil. Red stems and petioles accompany potassium deficiencies. K deficiencies that could seriously affect your crop rarely occur with indoor soils. However, mild symptoms are quite common. Usually the plants grow very well except for some necrotic spotting or areas on the older leaves. (This condition is primarily and aesthetic problem, and you may choose not to fertilize."

This sounds like exactly whats happening and I plan to do nothing unless it seems to be effecting the plan development over all.
 

mafuki

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Thanks Mafuki, Shes a maine coon (note the M in the forehead) shes big, old and some times mean.
oh man thats what i meant, seriously. i use to have a Maine Coon when i was younger he was a gentle giant and the faces are so unique in the cat world. Great pets
 

Kriegs

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This is the response I got from doogleef on UB's tread:
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Actually looks like a slight K deficiency. Happens pretty often on tall plants like that.

K def symptoms
Quote:
- Mel Frank
Starting on the large lower leaves, the tips of the blades brown and die. Necrotic areas or spots form on the blades, particularly along the margins. Sometimes the leaves are spattered with chlorotic tissue before necrosis develops, and the leaves look pale or yellow. Symptoms may appear on indoor plants grown in a soil rich in organic material. This may be due to high salinity (Na) of some manures or composts used in the soil. Red stems and petioles accompany potassium deficiencies. K deficiencies that could seriously affect your crop rarely occur with indoor soils. However, mild symptoms are quite common. Usually the plants grow very well except for some necrotic spotting or areas on the older leaves. (This condition is primarily and aesthetic problem, and you may choose not to fertilize."

This sounds like exactly whats happening and I plan to do nothing unless it seems to be effecting the plan development over all.
Interesting; I'll have to keep that in mind. My plants last year were really tall as well.

I like your plan (do nothing). Seriously..
 

snew

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Interesting; I'll have to keep that in mind. My plants last year were really tall as well.

I like your plan (do nothing). Seriously..
At this point my biggest concern is the soil. I really wanted to reuse my soil since the expense of soil is a bit much. I'm not sure if I should add it to the big compost pile outside or use it for a base to build soil for 3-6 months down the road.
 

snew

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So I told myself I wasn't going to post pictures 2 days in a row any more. I mean it can't be that interesting. But I so proud of my girls. I must say that the pictures show why I am ecstatic about how there growing. Usually I take pictures of the big girl, but this time its of one a little shorter plant that has 4 colas. The colas are filling out so nice, becoming full, firm and engorged with resin. You can see the brown hairs on her head growing down down the spine of the cola, like the hair of a beautiful woman as she allow age to change her gracefully. The resins are tacky like a spray adhesive that must set for while to reach maximum adhesion. The resin sticks to your fingers, it makes me want to run my hand up and down the buds and rub off a fist full of trichomes. So I looked for a place to take a good picture of them. This a small inside bud on another plant. You can see the little mushroom shape on some of them. This plant has smaller leaves than the other 3 but other wise looks the same. I'm very surprised that I'm able to get this clarity with my camera but it does look good.
By the way adding the DIY carbon filter has not stopped the smell. The filter fills a 6" vent with carbon about 6-8" deep. I don't see any way this aquarium carbon is going to stop the smell if it didn't work with this. This was with the odorsok, a carbon sheet rap, ona and citrus air fresheners. The smell still there and going to get worse. I could smell it as soon as I walk in the door after being out for a couple of hours. Not overwhelming, but an smell is to much. What are you guys using for smell?
Hope you enjoy them.
 

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grow2smoke1

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It's so fun to see your pics snew,caus your like 10 days ahead of me on the blackjack flowering.My white hair balls are starting to meet each other at the top of the cola.Can't wait for the tric's and red hairs to start forming like yours.Yours look so awesome,you should be really proud.Great work
 

mafuki

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yeah you are doing a great job and i have a feeling those ladys are going to turn out spectacular.
 

snew

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Yeah Maine coons are great cats but i am really wanting to find a Scottish fold breeder. I hear they are wonderful pets
I had two maine coons, my tom died in November. He was 19 lbs., a big lover boy. He would lick my ear for as long as I could take it. I would love to have another.
 

snew

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These closeups are the best pictures I've taken yet, but then the girls keep getting better looking. This plant is maturing before the others for some reason. It is the only plant which went to 4 tops it is also the shortest. Its only 21" verses 33½" for the tallest. But man these buds are pretty.
I'm glad i made clones of all of the plants. This one is seems to be maturing faster, another has the brown/rust spots on it, another has several leafs that look wilted and the other has smaller leaves and buds. So I guess it will come down to yield.
So far the new bushes all look very similar. About 5-6" with the new girls now. All are toped with 2-3 tops each. I have clones from each plant, which all came from seed. I'm pleased with the progress considering I burnt them up as clones with the T-5's.
I have been seeing a small fly looks like a fruit fly. I had up a raid pest strip in the flower side and saw a couple a night and then saw several on one plant that flew a way when I hit the plant, I moved the raid pest strip to the veg side and bought fly strips for both sides. At first I only saw 2-3 in the flower side but there where none where the raid pest strip was hanging now on the veg side. So I'll be making a run to HD tomorrow get another raid strip.
Any ways thats week 6 day, 1 or 42 days from flower. Started seeds on November 2 so 12 full weeks or 84 days total. Its a long haul starting out.
 

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