BlackRoses' Dairy Farm Blue Cheese and Milky Way scrog
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BlackRoses
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Thanx Paaa, I hope not to disappoint
BlackRoses
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Well that's exactly what I've been doing for a while..you should update weekly like every friday or somthing since you started flowering then
A pic every so many days, But I did some lollipopping I wanted to share and I raised the lamps up 1m. above canopy for the rest of this week.
The Milky Ways all have shown sex and the BC none.
On Friday I'll probably update again.
BlackRoses
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Here's a better view
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Excuse my ignorance - but can you give a little info on the screen its self and the growing?
In the video it seems very um, loose? I had imagined the strings to be tight?
This might sound like the total noob question but: Do you veg until the plants hit the bottom of the screen - spread out and create an even canopy or veg until the plants pop through the screen slightly and sorta feed the top leaves through?
In the video it seems very um, loose? I had imagined the strings to be tight?
This might sound like the total noob question but: Do you veg until the plants hit the bottom of the screen - spread out and create an even canopy or veg until the plants pop through the screen slightly and sorta feed the top leaves through?
Someguy15
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A loose screen (ie tomato trellis) is more for support, measurement, and control, but it's not a true Scrog IMO. In a true scrog you use small holes, 2" or less... and train all the branches sideways under it. The screen should be placed 6-12 inches from your media depending on your media/space constraints. Then you veg until about 3/4 of the screen is full. Flip to 12/12 at that point and continue training through the 'stretch' approximately 2 weeks through flower. Now stop all training and your buds should all shoot up vertically through the screen. Around week 3-4 you can clean up most of the foliage under the screen to improve air flow since they are shaded by the dense screen.
BlackRoses
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Ok the screen itself is only to bend and tie the longest branches onto so I won't get an uneven canopy.
I will do this only in the first 3 weeks when the most stretching occurs.
Afterwards it's all about letting them go, and hopefully I get a nice and even filled canopy.
Someguy is absolutely right on the definitions of a true scrog and in that case you should indeed use Chicken wire or something smaller then what I'm using.
But I rather use this method cause I'll get longer cola's this way on the shorter plants and more bud sites on the more bushy ladies.
some guy! +rep
I'm just trying to get it sorted in my head before I go running out to buy a trellis or screen. I'm looking at you guys thinking hooks and string might be the best option - works well for you clearly.
I had a similar thing in mind for this time around - minus the screen - I trimmed and cleaned up almost everything under my main plants and let the buds grow upwards. I can really see how the screen will help for measurement and getting the canopy a standard height all over. Thanks for the advice! Especially about switching to 12/12 at about 3/4 of the way up. I've got some babies in my clone box pretty much begging for a change from the tubes to a HPS and bigger buckets.
I'm just trying to get it sorted in my head before I go running out to buy a trellis or screen. I'm looking at you guys thinking hooks and string might be the best option - works well for you clearly.
I had a similar thing in mind for this time around - minus the screen - I trimmed and cleaned up almost everything under my main plants and let the buds grow upwards. I can really see how the screen will help for measurement and getting the canopy a standard height all over. Thanks for the advice! Especially about switching to 12/12 at about 3/4 of the way up. I've got some babies in my clone box pretty much begging for a change from the tubes to a HPS and bigger buckets.
Does it sound stupid to ask if chicken wire heats up under the lights?
I'm really considering hooks and string, might just make the squares just a bit smaller than what your running there blackroses. Understanding a lot more about the canopy now, and really what to be looking for during the first weeks of flower. I really appreciate all the explaining
BlackRoses
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Thanks, I think an avg. of 18" when I flipped, but keep in mind these ladies were topped quite often.
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I don't think Chicken Wires heat up, cause well everyone uses them..
And I'm not using hooks and strings.. I bought that Scrog net at my local grow store.. it's the largest square size they had..
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BlackRoses
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Each atleast 5 times.
Someguy15
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I have a pal using chicken wire and it works great, no heating up or anything like that. Just make sure u have something to hold the center down, if you have strong enough plants they will 'pop' the screen up if u don't keep it held flat. A frame & some tension is the ideal setup.
eightenough
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they are looking good man. how long are you going to flower the BLUE CHEESE for?
BlackRoses
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Thanks bro, each BC will get cut when it turns 50/50 and the Milky Ways get 30 amber/ 70% milky
Dragon Gem
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nice song, good idea with the dangling fly catcher too lol
BlackRoses
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Well I was talking to a guy who's been growing for quite some years now here in Holland for coffeeshops.Hey BR, I love the video
How come u have ur lights at such a distance? You could definitely get them closer.. Is it the only way to cover the whole screen or something?
He was telling me that the single biggest mistake he sees done by most amateurs is that they place their lamps waay too close the first two weeks.
The first week your lamps should hang 1m above the tip of the net canopy to induce stretching, then you bring it back 40cm the next week and 10 more the following until it's 50cm above Canopy throughout the grow.
This way you'll get the most stretch out of your ladies.
Now if my lamps were very close right now, it would keep my ladies very short and start bud production right away.. Which doesn't leave much room to fill my scrog.