BlackRoses' Dairy Farm Blue Cheese and Milky Way scrog

BlackRoses

BlackRoses

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iceman77776 said:
dang just read the whole journal, some nice looking plants..

shame about the hermies :(
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mrgranddaddypurple2 said:
hey man i sub'd. did you cover the red led light?
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Thanks guys, well those orange/red LED's on extension cords aren't nearly enough to hermie 4 Blue Cheese..
So even if you've heard that somewhere.. I bet it won't do a thing..
I've seen many many grow rooms before and all have extension cords with LED's, and dehumidifiers etc. etc.
All of these equipments have LED's on them.. think those puny lights can deliver enough spectrum to make a garden hermie?

Like I said.. this is a genetics problem.. nothing else!
 
bender420

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Someguy15 said:
I used fem seeds for my pineapple and my LA woman mothers that I have cloned twice now. 0 herms. I think it's probably breeders more than 'feminized' seed being bad.
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BlackRoses said:
It actually depends on the strain and the seed company.. some seed companies release fem seeds way too early, without properly stabilizing the genetics and you'll end up with bad seeds like me.
I'd recommend NOT buying Barney's seeds.. just because this company is ran by capitalistic pigs that are completely against the cannabis movement.

Boycott Barney's farm!!
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BlackRoses said:
I know I've never had hermies before either.. but I've also never used Barney's seeds until now.
So yea pick your breeders wisely I guess
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I agree bro, it is very breeder dependent on the fem seeds. Tons of people are growing fem seeds without any trouble.

Also last year HT Cannabis Cup, Barney spent a ton of money to make sure they were going to be the winners. In many ways the company that spends the most amount of money wins, Barney won almost all the damn categories. I certainly won't be buying any Barney from now on.

Guess who else spends a lot of money and wins a lot, Greenhouse Seeds. They are known to carry some of the worst beans around, they were only good until Shantibaba was with them. Now he is with Howard Marks at Mr Nice Guy. Shantibaba also took all his great genetics with him and Arjan is basically BSing the public with most of his genetics. Probably read more than a dozen threads in the last two months about GHS being crap. I myself had a terrible experience with them.
 
benefit420

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bender420 said:
I agree bro, it is very breeder dependent on the fem seeds. Tons of people are growing fem seeds without any trouble.

Also last year HT Cannabis Cup, Barney spent a ton of money to make sure they were going to be the winners. In many ways the company that spends the most amount of money wins, Barney won almost all the damn categories. I certainly won't be buying any Barney from now on.

Guess who else spends a lot of money and wins a lot, Greenhouse Seeds. They are known to carry some of the worst beans around, they were only good until Shantibaba was with them. Now he is with Howard Marks at Mr Nice Guy. Shantibaba also took all his great genetics with him and Arjan is basically BSing the public with most of his genetics. Probably read more than a dozen threads in the last two months about GHS being crap. I myself had a terrible experience with them.
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You know what this was my first time getting seeds through GHS, I wasnt too happy when I recieved the package because it had a shady gold sticker over the original breeders package. Im really not sure if I have the strain I asked for. Could be me being paranoid. Ontop of that they are not looking great. Could be me, but only 1 seed from GHS is looking good, atm and no to promising on the others. Leaves looking a little deformed. Pretty bummed but lesson will be learned.
 
BlackRoses

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bender420 said:
I agree bro, it is very breeder dependent on the fem seeds. Tons of people are growing fem seeds without any trouble.

Also last year HT Cannabis Cup, Barney spent a ton of money to make sure they were going to be the winners. In many ways the company that spends the most amount of money wins, Barney won almost all the damn categories. I certainly won't be buying any Barney from now on.

Guess who else spends a lot of money and wins a lot, Greenhouse Seeds. They are known to carry some of the worst beans around, they were only good until Shantibaba was with them. Now he is with Howard Marks at Mr Nice Guy. Shantibaba also took all his great genetics with him and Arjan is basically BSing the public with most of his genetics. Probably read more than a dozen threads in the last two months about GHS being crap. I myself had a terrible experience with them.
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benefit420 said:
You know what this was my first time getting seeds through GHS, I wasnt too happy when I recieved the package because it had a shady gold sticker over the original breeders package. Im really not sure if I have the strain I asked for. Could be me being paranoid. Ontop of that they are not looking great. Could be me, but only 1 seed from GHS is looking good, atm and no to promising on the others. Leaves looking a little deformed. Pretty bummed but lesson will be learned.
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mrgranddaddypurple2 said:
with fem seeds you need luck it seems in 2010
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I agree completely..
bender I didn't know all those little details, but I'm sure glad I do now.
GHS has cheap ass seeds which you'll get cheap ass plants from..
Usually from 5 feminized Greenhouse seeds you can hope to end up with 1 good yielder, cause many times it's mostly shitty yielders and lots of different fenotypes.
Atleast they've backcrossed their genetics enough that they're not ending up all hermies like with Barney's.

Good seed companies:
Sannie's Seeds
Sensi Seeds
Kiwi Seeds
Mr. Nice Seeds
Royal Queen Seeds
DNA Genetics
Reserva Privada
TGA Subcool

Seed companies to avoid:

Barney's Seeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GreenHouse Seed Company
Big Buddha Seeds (funny enough I'm seeing alot of reports about their Blue Cheese also going hermaphrodite on everyone)

Big Buddha's Blue Cheese femmed hermie warning! Hi all,I've just come back from a friends place whose Blue Cheese femmed is starting to hermie just as another friend of mine's has done.

These were grown in near perfect conditions with 3 out of 3 going lady boy in one friends grow and 2 out of 6 so far with what look likes nadgers just starting to form on others.

The odd hermie we all expect to see but this looks like somebody launched a femmed line without testing,I dunno,but its enough to steer me away from femmed Blue Cheese,not that I personally use femmed seeds although have tested them for others(Magus Genetics Warlock and Motavation) and they were fine.

Has anybody else had similar problems?
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One more proof guys..
This guy did a full review on the Blue Cheese and his hermied aswell..
The moderator of "BreedBay"

unfortunately i had to drop cheese and blue cheeese from our lineup due to the cheese being afghan dom and not cheesey at all really, some nice herb but not cheese... and the Blue cheese... OMG, that hermied its head off.. all 7 of the nice structured ones, others were culled for bad structure, weak stems etc..

i have pictures of me killing them 1 by 1, its a sad sight.. mor elike chronic cheese than blue.. i found zero blue qualities in any f teh 30 blue seeds started and all seeds were females, which leads me to believe it was pollinated by a herm plant or selfed under stress. but alas the 1 plant that looked like it werent seeded was full of covert nana's behind teh calyx sacks, which lead to minute seeds throughout the bud, the bud was extremely airy, like a sativa.. a real disapointment...

regards

Pistils.
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quickrip

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Ive got some seeds sitting at the house from barneys farm, world of seeds (amsterdam), and DNA. Im tossing all of the barneys in the garbage right now. Thanks for the heads up BR. Has anyone tried out the others. I dont want to waste my time with shitty strains if I can avoid it.
 
bender420

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Sounds correct bro. I agree with the breeder list you posted, they are indeed good, kiwi is the only one I haven't seen a lot of.

Add here are some legit breeders to add to your list in my opinion, from looking at 100s of grows in the last year.

DNA Genetics
Reserva Privada
TGA Subcool
 
BlackRoses

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bender420 said:
Sounds correct bro. I agree with the breeder list you posted, they are indeed good, kiwi is the only one I haven't seen a lot of.

Add here are some legit breeders to add to your list in my opinion, from looking at 100s of grows in the last year.

DNA Genetics
Reserva Privada
TGA Subcool
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Thanks!! bender, I added that to the list for future reference ;)

Also guys here's a youtube vid I did last night to help spread the word.
The more people see this, the more people we help avoid a bad situation.


[youtube]CwYjm4J6WE0[/youtube]
 
bender420

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Very nice BR, you are a very nice guy, going out of your way to help people avoid the trouble.

Appreciate your efforts my friend. Much respect.

I have never grown Blue Cheese but I am a huge fan of smoking it, I was hoping to see grow it my self one day, but I guess that is not happening.
 
BlackRoses

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bender420 said:
Very nice BR, you are a very nice guy, going out of your way to help people avoid the trouble.

Appreciate your efforts my friend. Much respect.

I have never grown Blue Cheese but I am a huge fan of smoking it, I was hoping to see grow it my self one day, but I guess that is not happening.
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Yea bro, I'm a real activist, I learn, I teach and I support the movement.
But when some company is trying to make money and using the movement as it's camouflage, it really pisses me off..
Cause barney's doesn't give a shit about the patients buying their seeds, they're just trying to survive in this market.. I mean they can't beat GHS if they're not willing to bring out feminized seeds immediately.
So they'd rather fuck us up to keep covering the majority of the market.. In the end Barney's will fail if they continue doing this.. I know finance and business better then pot.

BUT anyways bender I did find my next Blue Cheese and this is going to be a true blue cheese..
http://www.sanniesshop.com/cheeseberry-en.html

It's not "BlueCheese", but Cheeseberry.. and from what I've been hearing.. it's the real deal..
none of that Blueberry fenotypes.. like all 5 of mine.. none were true blue cheese.. look at the leaves.. completely Indica..
That sucks.. I mean I get hermies and fucked up feno's.. never ever ever again..


Sannies Cheeseberry aka. BlueCheese..

 
BlackRoses

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Someguy15 said:
Lookin nice man, u think their going to fill that screen out or a little late with deployment? heh
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Well they've stretched alot when I compare to day 1 of flowering.. and they've been vegged to their max, so all I do is bend the tallest to the net and the rest can grow on..
I'm expecting lots of bud stretching these coming 6 weeks :)
 
BlackRoses

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Start week 4 feeding

Day: June 18
Res.: 25L
PH: 6.2
EC: 2.4 (1550 ppm)

* I gotta say that I'm using like from week 1 half of what Advanced Nutrients recommends on their nutrient calculator..
I don't know whyy exactly they have such BIG numbers.. but the first time on week 1 I tried the exact numbers.. I ended up dumping like 15L of RO water to stabilize the EC cause it skyrocketed to like 3.0 on week 1
That's pretty disturbing to see.. I don't know if it works or not, maybe they know what they're doing, but.. those numbers are incredible..
I mean I should have added 50% more in the res. and that would have resulted in a EC level of atleast 3 and most likely higher..
Got to email AN about this.. love their customer service!

Sensi Bloom Part A/B (60ml each)
Bud Candy (30ml)
Sensizym (30ml)
B-52 Vitamin (30ml)
Mother Earth Organic Super Tea (30ml)
Wet Betty (30ml)
Grandma Enggy's F-1 (30ml)
Grandma Enggy's H-2 (30ml)
VooDoo Juice Root Booster -
Overdrive -
Piranha Beneficial Fungi-
Tarantula Beneficial Bacteria -
Bud Ignitor -


This is what I emailed them:

Hi guys,

I've been using the Sensi A+B line for the past 2 years and I noticed you changed the nutrient calculator online.
I'm writing a grow journal on a cannabis forum called Rollitup and I'm trying to convince as many people to jump over from what their using to AN.
But right now I'm not sure if your online calculator isn't working properly or maybe it is..
I like the new way of adding the nutrients to the reservoir.. beats taking all separate measures if for bloom enhancers you only need to add 50% of
the base nutrient amount you added..
Yesterday I started week 4 and I added to 25L of RO water to my res. and added 60ml of A+B (Each) and 30ml of the rest.
The EC came up to 2.4 and I regulated the PH to 6.3

But if I would have followed the online calculation precisely, my ec would have ended up at 3.x which is pretty high for cannabis to grow without getting burns in my opinion.
But I'm no pro, so please elaborate for me why the calculator is set so high.

Strain is a 9.5 week Indica.

This is a link of the journal I've addressed this issue..
I will most likely quote your reply back on the site.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/322874-blackroses-dairy-farm-blue-cheese-10.html#post4296788

Regards,
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BlackRoses

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eightenough said:
thats a lot of bottles. lol
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Yea it is, but they're not all used at the same time and some are for vegging aswell.

Btw. my clones rooted and I picked a mother already.. My Milky Way in the bottom left corner which by current looks has the best bud production and it's one of my if not the most beautiful female I got..
I could bush her up, grow a SOG, and I'm pretty certain even if I just let her go without doing nothing she'd end up beautiful. :)
 
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