Bloom question

OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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I'm in va with a plant in the soil. Today as of July 31st starting to finally see some hairs coming out the pistols. I'm going to stop the calmag in the RO water considering there is nitrogen in the calmag, so I'll cut that out. The bloom nute that I have is from buildaSoil. I'm just wondering if anyone knows.. how often do I use the nute for the watering cycle? Do I do it everyday? Or once a week or 3X a week? Just wondering thanks in advance!
 
MustGro

MustGro

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I wouldn't stop nitrogen now or calmag personally. Did they go through the stretch in flower yet? I'm in Eastern Canada so I'm not familiar with your nice weather. I usually see them start to flip right about now if they're early; so for the next 2-3 weeks they'll stretch and need nitrogen.
 
Johiem

Johiem

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I don't start cutting the nitrogen till week 3 In flower at the earliest. She'll still need them for a while yet. Just start to get heavier on your p/k for now give her a couple more weeks then start reducing the nitrogen, i don't just cut her off, I reduce it to 0 over 2 weeks dropping 25% every 3-4 days. I'm also growing in coco, with you in soil, you may have enough just in the soil to cut it just have to watch and listen to your plants.
 
OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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MustGro said:
I wouldn't stop nitrogen now or calmag personally. Did they go through the stretch in flower yet? I'm in Eastern Canada so I'm not familiar with your nice weather. I usually see them start to flip right about now if they're early; so for the next 2-3 weeks they'll stretch and need nitrogen.
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It is starting to stretch, Im noticing it more now that you said that. So Im not gonna cut out the calmag yet. I don't have a lot of hairs yet, there isn't any clumps of hairs I mean** but they are starting to come out 1 by 1 slowly

When's the right time in your opinion to start my nute? Also how often should you bloom nute it?
 
MustGro

MustGro

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OgruntZ said:
It is starting to stretch, Im noticing it more now that you said that. So Im not gonna cut out the calmag yet. I don't have a lot of hairs yet, there isn't any clumps of hairs I mean** but they are starting to come out 1 by 1 slowly

When's the right time in your opinion to start my nute? Also how often should you bloom nute it?
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I'm just starting to hit the flip now so I'm watching for N deficiency. I have 4 outside and one is hungrier than the others. It's a little lime greeny. I'm trying to stay organic so I top dressed it with bloodmeal and I'm hopeful that'll give it a pop (it did before). So we're all going through this. Get them deficient in nitrogen now and it's a real bitch to green them up after they flip.

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So there's the link to the buildasoil. There's a lot of them; which one you using?
Is your goal to be organic? When you said calmag I assumed liquid nute grow but this buildasoil is organic, right? Not saying you can't have both but best if we know how you want to grow them out. Give us some pics so we can see how they look and what kind of pots they're in.

PS. the pistols are the hairs. They come out of the ovaries two at a time.
 
DrOgkush

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I never use calmag unless I need to and that’s usually never lol. I wouldn’t be to scared of nutrition. Nitrogen plays a very important role. So I use it till about 3 week till harvest. I just go lighter and lighter each week. Alotnof people cut it out all the way. And their plants start to die “fade” and I prefer mine to stay mostly green lol.
 
OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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MustGro said:
Yeah @DrOgkush I'm a fan of nitrogen in the flower cycle too. No way they'll make plant mass (A.K.A. buds) without nitrogen. You get them yellow in flower too early and it's never good.
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I just took some pics. Just put some RO water with calmag. I've been putting DE around the base and stock to keep the pests from crawling up. I am completely organic. Soil in the ground outside in the woods, 8hrs direct light. I have had some issued with russet mites but have taken care of that the organic way while ago but it did fuck up my plant. She's good now tho.

So she's preflowering still. Im using the buildaBloom from buildAsoil site this year to see how that'll go. I guess my only question and concern now is when to start to use the bloom nute. I guess once I see the clump of hairs is when I'll begin. Is that usually the correct way to go?
 

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MustGro

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You're probably still early for the bloom nutes yet, but it does take time for them to be digested by your soil organisms and become available to the plant. If in doubt, I think it's probably safer in organics to be a little heavy with the feed.
They have real nice green color; no purple stems or burnt tips.
 
OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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MustGro said:
You're probably still early for the bloom nutes yet, but it does take time for them to be digested by your soil organisms and become available to the plant. If in doubt, I think it's probably safer in organics to be a little heavy with the feed.
They have real nice green color; no purple stems or burnt tips.
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Now that you have said that. I do have a Branch that is small. At the bottom of the plant. That has purple stems the leaves have changed to a purple tint as well. I can't find much research on that (maybe Im just looking in the wrong places, thus my luck) but other then that 1 smaller branch at the bottom I might have just one more stem that had a tad small bit of purple tint to it but nothing extremely noticable.

By the way dude, thank you for not having a doughebag attitude an acting all "knowing" like some folks. I really do appreciate that a lot lol I'm learning but with my other job an tasks throughout my day I just don't have a whole whole lot of time to do much research
 
DrOgkush

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I run spring water and never use cal mag like ever? I try to avoid that shit. Which for the most part I do. I tend to stay organic to the fullest unless fish emulsion or super thrive I do have grow and bloom through. Just don’t use it as often. Plants seem fine without
 
OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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DrOgkush said:
do you run reverse osmosis through your entire house? Why are you still using RO water? Why not spring or ph your tap?
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I don't have a pH for tap (like an idiot) it's my 2nd grow and had no idea I was gonna grow this year.. I found a seed in gradeA quality bud from the dispensary an HAD to grow it lol yes I have RO through the house
 
OgruntZ

OgruntZ

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DrOgkush said:
I run spring water and never use cal mag like ever? I try to avoid that shit. Which for the most part I do. I tend to stay organic to the fullest unless fish emulsion or super thrive I do have grow and bloom through. Just don’t use it as often. Plants seem fine without
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RO doesn't have any nutrients period. On the calmag bottle it says if you use RO, use calmag. So I was just doing so. Why do you not like calmag? Not a confrontational question just so u know..lol just wondering why?
 
DrOgkush

DrOgkush

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For one I don’t need it. It’s more of a medication IMO. When the plant thrives it. But iv never had a problem with deficiencies in that area. In every grow iv done or been apart of. That shit honestly just popped up outta no where like a go to fertilizer I can understand with ro water but I’d assume your veg nutes already have that in it and flower. Every bottle of everything will say you need it.
I go by what the plant tells me.
Look at it this way. When it’s deficient of a something It’s easier to add and fix. Then when you over do it. And lock her out.

you can add more. Can’t take away. So just be careful with that stuff like any nute. Your plants look healthy and green. So no worries to what it seems from photo
 
PadawanWarrior

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OgruntZ said:
I don't have a pH for tap (like an idiot) it's my 2nd grow and had no idea I was gonna grow this year.. I found a seed in gradeA quality bud from the dispensary an HAD to grow it lol yes I have RO through the house
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Can you get water from an outside faucet that isn't connected to the RO system? And is does it have a softener too, because softened water is bad for soil and plants.

Build a Bloom already has Ca and Mg too, so you shouldn't need extra. As for dosage, it's 1 tsp per gal, but I've never used it personally. I have pretty much everything else they have though, lol. Just email them and they'll get right back to you with the answer you want.

And personally I would rather topdress dry amendments, especially outdoors. And some need meal would help with bugs and feed the plants, but that's more for veg. Karanja meal is the one to use in flower since it doesn't have a lot of N.

I've used Build a Flower top dress and it's good shit.
 
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