Bloombox by Northern Lights

Jammin

Active Member
I have been eying the bloom box and fell into this thread looking for a review.
Although it is expensive, I think with 32 cubic feet of growing room would yield say what.. like 1/2 oz per plant or more depending on strain. With 9 plants thats 4+ ounces (more likely 6+), I always like to round down and prepare for the worst and when the best happens its always a smiler. So in my neck o' the woods, 1z = $250-$400 depending again on strain. so say 5z x $325 = $1,625 of course minus that 1z you need to "test sample" so really each 'crop' would bring @ $1,300. Now said expensive machine (Bloom Box), has no construction necessary. Is light tight and (supposedly) odor free.

I have had a 1,000 watt sodium halide and ballast, both brand new in the box,
sitting in my closet, collecting dust for over 10 years. I finally sold it on craig's list. The reason I never used it: Smell. There was absolutely no way in hell, living where I do, (6 unit apartment building), old electrical wiring, neighbors very close, etc. I even had a friend who grows for some of the local cannabis clubs come by and give me his opinion on growing stealthy where I am at. He recommended not to..

So here I am, too surely to want to work for someone younger then myself, needing to make some cash to fuel my dreams, like having a house someday, etc.

So by my guesstimate.. and I may be completly off base, it seems like a 8 week cycle?! So that means every two months, so at the end of a year you get 6 cycles x $1,300 = $7,800 .

Now, it begins to look more feasible.. Initial money has been paid, remaining costs for nutrients, electricity etc.. will be minimal.

I can, at the end of the year decide that, damn this works great, consumes low power and doesn't raise the eyebrows of neighbors or apartment visitors and reduces the risk of electrical induced fires via shoddy electrical work. And then buy a second unit with the profit and start a savings account.

Someone talk me out of this with logic and reason and building one myself would be a lot of time consuming, taxicab using (I ride a motorcycle) and very obvious to the roommate (although hes been a friend for many years and smokes). I just like following the simple rule of less people that know the better!

Please wise ones reply and tell me my logic is flawed before I spend the initial cash.

~Jammin
 

happybudmore

Active Member
I have been eying the bloom box and fell into this thread looking for a review.
Although it is expensive, I think with 32 cubic feet of growing room would yield say what.. like 1/2 oz per plant or more depending on strain. With 9 plants thats 4+ ounces (more likely 6+), I always like to round down and prepare for the worst and when the best happens its always a smiler. So in my neck o' the woods, 1z = $250-$400 depending again on strain. so say 5z x $325 = $1,625 of course minus that 1z you need to "test sample" so really each 'crop' would bring @ $1,300. Now said expensive machine (Bloom Box), has no construction necessary. Is light tight and (supposedly) odor free.

I have had a 1,000 watt sodium halide and ballast, both brand new in the box,
sitting in my closet, collecting dust for over 10 years. I finally sold it on craig's list. The reason I never used it: Smell. There was absolutely no way in hell, living where I do, (6 unit apartment building), old electrical wiring, neighbors very close, etc. I even had a friend who grows for some of the local cannabis clubs come by and give me his opinion on growing stealthy where I am at. He recommended not to..

So here I am, too surely to want to work for someone younger then myself, needing to make some cash to fuel my dreams, like having a house someday, etc.

So by my guesstimate.. and I may be completly off base, it seems like a 8 week cycle?! So that means every two months, so at the end of a year you get 6 cycles x $1,300 = $7,800 .

Now, it begins to look more feasible.. Initial money has been paid, remaining costs for nutrients, electricity etc.. will be minimal.

I can, at the end of the year decide that, damn this works great, consumes low power and doesn't raise the eyebrows of neighbors or apartment visitors and reduces the risk of electrical induced fires via shoddy electrical work. And then buy a second unit with the profit and start a savings account.

Someone talk me out of this with logic and reason and building one myself would be a lot of time consuming, taxicab using (I ride a motorcycle) and very obvious to the roommate (although hes been a friend for many years and smokes). I just like following the simple rule of less people that know the better!

Please wise ones reply and tell me my logic is flawed before I spend the initial cash.

~Jammin
Finally someone poses the exact same question that I have back in June and not a single reply. I need to know about these products at bcnorthernlights.com but unfortunatly this was this guys one post obviously nobody answered his questions. So hey Jammin if youre out there let me know how what your decision was, or is. I'm having a hard time finding any feedback on these products from this company. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. If you think 3500 is expensive they have packages that go up to 24,000 dollars that supposedly produce up to 30 pounds in 10 months. If stealthyness and lack of tools, and workspace do happen to be a problem then would it be a good idea to go with one of their packages?
 

bcnl

Active Member
Finally someone poses the exact same question that I have back in June and not a single reply. I need to know about these products at bcnorthernlights.com but unfortunatly this was this guys one post obviously nobody answered his questions. So hey Jammin if youre out there let me know how what your decision was, or is. I'm having a hard time finding any feedback on these products from this company. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. If you think 3500 is expensive they have packages that go up to 24,000 dollars that supposedly produce up to 30 pounds in 10 months. If stealthyness and lack of tools, and workspace do happen to be a problem then would it be a good idea to go with one of their packages?
Hey hey,

We're working on a customer forum, but it's so tricky because we can't come off like we're promoting anything illegal. As the marketing guy, I'm trying to figure out the best way to have existing customers share their experiences with people who are just thinking of becoming customers. Doing more of this web stuff will hopefully help.

I can go off for hours about why our Grow Your Own systems are the best choice you can make for growing plants indoors, but it's not the same as having an honest paying customer tell you exactly how things went for them.

If you are asking specific questions about the yield from these boxes, our customers are producing anywhere from 0.5 to 1.0 lbs of dried and cured plant matter from the BloomBox and 1.0 to 2.0 lbs of dried and cured plant matter from the Producer. Although that is somewhat dependent on the type of plants one chooses to grow.

Typically the BloomBox will turn over its crops faster because you can run the first stage of vegetation on the left side while the right side is flowering.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

BCNL
BC Northern Lights
 

happybudmore

Active Member
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/3735-bc-bloombox-grow.html

great journal here but I don't want to interfear too much what he's got going on also found this on youtube pretty nice example

YouTube - The Producer bcnorthernlights

I don't get online a whole lot right now but i'd like to keep this posting going with as much good info as I can about BCNL they seem like a great company that plays by the rules, by not shamelessly advertising outrageous claims, and from what I can tell and have heard have exellent customer support
 

REDDFACTOR

Active Member
. i have been looking at the producer for years ... never wanting to spend the money .... i just moved to vancouver . .. and met a guy that had one .... ive been smoking for 15 years .. and have grown for 5 years .... the producer is the best product u can get .... people who dont know how to grow can plug and play ... and no wires no putting up walls. no nuttin ... you get it and start growing ... if u live far from the city and have space ... then maybe building a room is good for u .... but in the city the producer is a must ....ive had people say" it cost too much , ill build my own .... DONT for the time and hassle... buy the box ... i gaurantee top BUD .. which we all want ... and if u have co2 u will get 1.5 to 2 p a crop
 

Jammin

Active Member
the only thing that has changed ofr me since the original post is that I now have a savings account. However I will go over the logistics again with the new 1.5--2 lb per batch. I assume thats for 1 unit (BloomBox).

Jammin' (still)
 

Jammin

Active Member
I noticed there is a "package deal" on the BC web site. One bloombox and one dryer. $1,700 of freebies to make it an 'all-u-need' package. However I did not see a pic of the clone chamber nor a mention of it in the PDF specs. Also No Price. But following a link to their US dealers, (pun intended), I deduced that one bloombox + one dryer = $3,700 US Dollars. yikes. I can guess the price of all the ph equipment and solutions and rockwool, has got to bring the price to $4,000. So with that figure in mind and not counting the 6 amps and 2 amps of electricity required for each unit to function in the ON position.

That said: here's my math:
2 months = 9 plants
9 = 1->2 Lbs
keeping the low number:
1 = 16oz
16 = 128 1/8oz
128 x 45 = 5,760
5,760 = 2 months

That more then pays for its first use, I bet even adding in the electricity! And $45 in my neck of the woods is cheap!!

So with a full years worth of freebies (the package deal), the only additional cost, as I see it, would be for electricity.
But also remember that:
-$4,000 (initial output)
+$5,760 (low-ball estimate of one 2 month cycle)
--------
+$1,760
-$ 760 (product testing)
--------
+$1,000

Then each month up to the year (5 more cycles)
$5,760
x 5
-------
+$28,800
-$ 3,800 (product testing)
---------
+$25,000
+$ 1,000 (1st month profit)
----------
+$26,000

Wow, if we lived in a perfect world, an additional $25k to anyones yearly salary would help some to stay above poverty level!

But alas, even in California where local governments laws are a bit more relaxed, where as federal Laws still are adamant about classifying things heavy handedly.

Landlords improving our electrical circuits this year at some point. I will do some measurements and decide then if it's conducive to growing stealthy-style.

Jammin'
 

bcnl

Active Member
Hey Jammin,

I've never heard of 2lbs from a BloomBox. The BB is designed to kick out up to 1lb of dried plant matter every 8 weeks and the Producer is designed to kick out up to 2lbs of dried plant matter every 8-11 weeks - depending how mature the babies are when they go in.

Main variables are nutrients, temperatures, strain and techniques such as scrogging, splitting or bending.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
I noticed there is a "package deal" on the BC web site. One bloombox and one dryer. $1,700 of freebies to make it an 'all-u-need' package. However I did not see a pic of the clone chamber nor a mention of it in the PDF specs. Also No Price. But following a link to their US dealers, (pun intended), I deduced that one bloombox + one dryer = $3,700 US Dollars. yikes. I can guess the price of all the ph equipment and solutions and rockwool, has got to bring the price to $4,000. So with that figure in mind and not counting the 6 amps and 2 amps of electricity required for each unit to function in the ON position.

That said: here's my math:
2 months = 9 plants
9 = 1->2 Lbs
keeping the low number:
1 = 16oz
16 = 128 1/8oz
128 x 45 = 5,760
5,760 = 2 months

That more then pays for its first use, I bet even adding in the electricity! And $45 in my neck of the woods is cheap!!

So with a full years worth of freebies (the package deal), the only additional cost, as I see it, would be for electricity.
But also remember that:
-$4,000 (initial output)
+$5,760 (low-ball estimate of one 2 month cycle)
--------
+$1,760
-$ 760 (product testing)
--------
+$1,000

Then each month up to the year (5 more cycles)
$5,760
x 5
-------
+$28,800
-$ 3,800 (product testing)
---------
+$25,000
+$ 1,000 (1st month profit)
----------
+$26,000

Wow, if we lived in a perfect world, an additional $25k to anyones yearly salary would help some to stay above poverty level!

But alas, even in California where local governments laws are a bit more relaxed, where as federal Laws still are adamant about classifying things heavy handedly.

Landlords improving our electrical circuits this year at some point. I will do some measurements and decide then if it's conducive to growing stealthy-style.

Jammin'

Yeah, and when you get busted for growing and dealing the state pays for everything!!!!
 

REDDFACTOR

Active Member
DO NOT GET THE BLOOMBOX .. get the producer has 18 plants and yeilds about 36-40 oz .. but you have to get co2 . if u do get producer . u need co2 tank, and clones from a buddy .....i get mine for 10$ already rooted in big cubes .... so i have no down time . but u still need to buy a coupl of things ..... u need better light bulbs ..and ph pen and ppm pen ... or tri meter . u need to buy a bucket and couple of lil things(fans etc....) ..... what we notice . the biggest problem with theses machines is the noise .... the fans when lights are on make a hum and the rock for roots also make a hum .... so if u have people below u ....watch out ...also another thing is there no fan inside the box ...which there should be one .... so for heat problem we used a couple fan out side to keep temp down ... need to be 83-88 or plants plants 100 % .... look for more from REDDFACTOR


if anyone has plans to get this machine and has questions ...feel free to ask

ps i will be posting pictures soon
 

bcnl

Active Member
DO NOT GET THE BLOOMBOX .. get the producer has 18 plants and yeilds about 36-40 oz .. but you have to get co2 . if u do get producer . u need co2 tank, and clones from a buddy .....i get mine for 10$ already rooted in big cubes .... so i have no down time . but u still need to buy a coupl of things ..... u need better light bulbs ..and ph pen and ppm pen ... or tri meter . u need to buy a bucket and couple of lil things(fans etc....) ..... what we notice . the biggest problem with theses machines is the noise .... the fans when lights are on make a hum and the rock for roots also make a hum .... so if u have people below u ....watch out ...also another thing is there no fan inside the box ...which there should be one .... so for heat problem we used a couple fan out side to keep temp down ... need to be 83-88 or plants plants 100 % .... look for more from REDDFACTOR


if anyone has plans to get this machine and has questions ...feel free to ask

ps i will be posting pictures soon
Hey Red,

Sounds like you've got your machine dialed. The new manuals will be out this ship day and contain more advanced growing tips like how to use an oscillating fan in the box.

As far as heat goes, the box should run between 6 and 9 degrees hotter than the room it is in. Let me know if that doesn't add up.

I'd also appreciate some more details on the bulbs. If you can recommend a better choice than Artemis, we would be happy to do some R&D. So far we've had no complaints about our bulbs.

Hope you're having a good time!
 

ceestyle

Well-Known Member
Yeah, and when you get busted for growing and dealing the state pays for everything!!!!
Yeah. Dealing is stupid. Dealing as a grower is even more so. Selling eighths as a dealer is asking to get caught and abused anally.

Think about it Jammin (although if I have to bring this up, you probably won't have the common sense to take this advice). If you are selling 128 bags per two months, that's at least two eighths per day. That is a ton of exposure and time spent with either nugs on you or people coming in/out of your house, where your grow op is presumably taking place. Retarded. If you're shooting for more production than that, scale accordingly. IF you're set on selling, sacrifice profit for risk/exposure reduction and sell a crop at a time to one person who you can "trust" but who doesn't know the location of your op, and ideally your true identity.
 

REDDFACTOR

Active Member
hey bcnl .... my boy works for a advanced nutrients superstore in vancouver ..... can he get the book from you ... cause i lost my paper to sigh up my box .... can my boy get one .... he knows some people down there .. yah i dont really have it dialed in ... it comes like that ... this machice is for people who fedup of setting rooms up ...ive done that for years ... and its really sucks going to home depot 4 times a week .... my boy gave me diff lights bulbs cause he said the ones that come with it blow all the time .... so i invested in some good ones .... bcnl ill send you pictures of mine as soon as i get my camara back .... im doing purple kush and green crack .... looking foward to smoking on my birthday .... it just happens to be week after i crop !!!!!!
 

nathenking

Well-Known Member
I just got a bloombox. Clones are rooting as we speak. Ill let u know how i grow. running Bigbud X Northern Lights
NK
 
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