Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow

SL2 · Feb 9, 2010

Lookin GOOD there J. They are growing well. Congrats on the JTR.

I snapped a couple stems trying to supercrop. I pinched the stem like I have done before only this time they snapped when I bent it over. I have not had this happen before. Do you think they were too moist or dry?

Jerry Garcia · Feb 9, 2010

SICC";3766680]Every thing looks great JG :leaf: How big are those pots your using? and how long have they been flowering? :weed:[/QUOTE] The pots are 7"x7"x9" I think...I've measured them so many damn times but can never remember (blame it on the bubble hash laced LSD I suppose...) These girls have been flowering for about a month now I think. I'll do some digging and try to find out when exactly I moved them over. [quote="SL2 said:
Lookin GOOD there J. They are growing well. Congrats on the JTR.

I snapped a couple stems trying to supercrop. I pinched the stem like I have done before only this time they snapped when I bent it over. I have not had this happen before. Do you think they were too moist or dry?

Thanks skeet. I'm STOKED about the JTR female...after going through Subcool's JTR breeding thread I'm pretty excited to see which phenotype it turns out to be. Hoping for that Pink Lemonade or Soylent Green!

Not sure about what makes the stem "snap" vs. "bend", though moisture level of the soil and/or air could potentially play a roll. I think larger stems just tend to get more woody and fibrous than smaller stems, so when you try to supercrop (or clone) those branches it can be problematic.

Though thinking back upon it I broke a small PPP stem the other day twice trying to supercrop it, and it was definitely not woody. I'm still trying to figure out the intricacies myself, but "crushing the herd" or pinching the stem to make it soft (as you indicated you do) usually does the trick.

I actually taped up the one I broke (probably a 75% break) with a small amount of masking tape. It should be able to repair itself and flower fine, but it's a tiny plant anyway and I don't even really care about it...I have too many plants at the moment, and another PPP just doesn't quite fit the bill. I've grown out 5 generations or so of it and if I need to cull a plant for extra space it will be this one :fire:

(I've always wanted a reason to use the fiery smiley face!)

SL2 · Feb 9, 2010

Thanks man. Yea I have sc several times on bigger plants with no problems. I just cant figure out why these snapped. No warning. I think it was too much moisture in the plant but I donrt know for sure. A couple that did not break has popped up again so I am going to let them dry a bit and try again...

I need to checl into the JTR. Both those sound killer...

You have me all excited about the LSD. Cant wait...

farmer2424 · Feb 9, 2010

Hey Jerry, just wanted to complement you on those girls, some real beauties. That LSD looks bomb, and the thickness of those branches are pretty impressive. How strong did the LSD smell in flowering? And about how much would you say your LSDs yielded per plant?wish i could've followed your grow from the beginning, but better late than never

Jerry Garcia · Feb 10, 2010

farmer2424 said:
Hey Jerry, just wanted to complement you on those girls, some real beauties. That LSD looks bomb, and the thickness of those branches are pretty impressive. How strong did the LSD smell in flowering? And about how much would you say your LSDs yielded per plant?wish i could've followed your grow from the beginning, but better late than never

Hey farmer, thanks for dropping by. The LSD has a very distinct smell...but it's pretty hard to describe. It's not a "strong" odor in the sense that it will stink up a 100ft radius around your house, but when you touch it or smoke you immediately recognize the smell. I would recommend a carbon filter for ANY strain though...including this one.

Yield on the first plant was pretty good...probably in the vicinity of an 35-45 grams. I hope to improve upon that this time, and judging from how it looks now I will. Either way, they are dense, sticky, crystalline, stinky buds that garner many compliments from peers.

No worries about joining the party late...there's more happening now than ever before...so really you're just in time!

Pics coming in a few...

Jerry Garcia · Feb 10, 2010

Here are some fresh pics I took this morning @ 6am.

We'll start with a trainwreck...flowering about 2 weeks and starting to show pistils.

You can see she has been supercropped and then tied down. I'm really digging the tying down thing these days...

Next, the confirmed JTR female. Little droopy...should be fine tomorrow.

JTR from the top

LSD

Supercropping really opened up her inside branches and allowed them to get big.

This is the same plant from the other side. Supercropping at its finest!

SleestackxSkunk. Small.

JTR that never got transplanted to a larger pot. Doing alright though.

Another shot

Chiesel. DANK.

Nice, healthy plant...

OG18xSkunk

Again...

Power Kush. Showing pistils...she's feminized though so I already knew...

Another shot

LSD 2. Neither one is really 1 or 2, but this is the second.

Again, supercropping opened up the middle and allowed the lower branches to become this...

Closeup of the big cola. Little hairs are starting to turn orange...cute...

Here's the Blue Widow I thought was over-supercropped...and maybe she is/was...but she's recovered and will be fine...

Another shot. You can see the bent branch.

A closeup of the bend. Note the knot in the bottom left from an earlier supercrop on this branch. That's what they look like when they heal up.

Here's the whole branch...

PPP. Same age as the ones in white pots, but never was transplanted, and therefore never received the nigh-n guano and the castings the other got. They've all been given the same nutrients otherwise. Crazy how effective this stuff is! I got it from BMO by the way...i think its 9-3-2...and the castings are 1-0-0, also from BMO...

PPP buds ALWAYS look nice though!

Chiesel...transplanted yesterday from a 24oz cup. The guano and castings combo she has just entered should help her out tremendously over the next 7 or so weeks she'll be flowering. I love this chiesel and will be keeping it around as long as I can (along with the LSD)!

Another Chiesel shot

LST'd JTR...been in flower for only a few days...

Shot of the main stem twist

Here's a trainwreck with a similar LST job...

Way more twisted than the JTR, but the same concept/result

Little PPP...doesn't like being in the little cup...it's gonna have to deal though cuz there's no room!

Another shot

Some plants on the shelf...

All those plants are in the little flower room. I think there are 16...I thought 15 yesterday but was mistaken. I should have taken a pic of the room with the plants in-situ...maybe tonight :leaf:

"SICC" · Feb 10, 2010

That was a great set up pics haha, it just kept going and going. :weed:

How many total plants do you have going?

I like your LST, im doing my for the first time on these party cups, and im really liking how you can shape them to your liking, its really fun haha

SL2 · Feb 10, 2010

Damn J looks like a circus with all the rope and double jointed plants. lol Supercropping is cool...Very nice man. Your gonna be working your ass off with all those plants! lol

I noticed on my WW when I supercropped it the lower branch colas filled in great. They are 12" long now. Not bad for the lower limbs.

Jerry Garcia · Feb 10, 2010

SICC";3770937]That was a great set up pics haha said:
Damn J looks like a circus with all the rope and double jointed plants. lol Supercropping is cool...Very nice man. Your gonna be working your ass off with all those plants! lol

I noticed on my WW when I supercropped it the lower branch colas filled in great. They are 12" long now. Not bad for the lower limbs.

supercropping, lst, topping, all combined in a few plants. experimentation...that's what it's all about :leaf:

Babs34 · Feb 10, 2010

Jerry Garcia said:
Here are some fresh pics I took this morning @ 6am.

We'll start with a trainwreck...flowering about 2 weeks and starting to show pistils.

You can see she has been supercropped and then tied down. I'm really digging the tying down thing these days...

Next, the confirmed JTR female. Little droopy...should be fine tomorrow.

JTR from the top

LSD

Supercropping really opened up her inside branches and allowed them to get big.

This is the same plant from the other side. Supercropping at its finest!

SleestackxSkunk. Small.

JTR that never got transplanted to a larger pot. Doing alright though.

Another shot

Chiesel. DANK.

Nice, healthy plant...

OG18xSkunk

Again...

Power Kush. Showing pistils...she's feminized though so I already knew...

Another shot

LSD 2. Neither one is really 1 or 2, but this is the second.

Again, supercropping opened up the middle and allowed the lower branches to become this...

Closeup of the big cola. Little hairs are starting to turn orange...cute...

Here's the Blue Widow I thought was over-supercropped...and maybe she is/was...but she's recovered and will be fine...

Another shot. You can see the bent branch.

A closeup of the bend. Note the knot in the bottom left from an earlier supercrop on this branch. That's what they look like when they heal up.

Here's the whole branch...

PPP. Same age as the ones in white pots, but never was transplanted, and therefore never received the nigh-n guano and the castings the other got. They've all been given the same nutrients otherwise. Crazy how effective this stuff is! I got it from BMO by the way...i think its 9-3-2...and the castings are 1-0-0, also from BMO...

PPP buds ALWAYS look nice though!

Chiesel...transplanted yesterday from a 24oz cup. The guano and castings combo she has just entered should help her out tremendously over the next 7 or so weeks she'll be flowering. I love this chiesel and will be keeping it around as long as I can (along with the LSD)!

Another Chiesel shot

LST'd JTR...been in flower for only a few days...

Shot of the main stem twist

Here's a trainwreck with a similar LST job...

Way more twisted than the JTR, but the same concept/result

Little PPP...doesn't like being in the little cup...it's gonna have to deal though cuz there's no room!

Another shot

Some plants on the shelf...

All those plants are in the little flower room. I think there are 16...I thought 15 yesterday but was mistaken. I should have taken a pic of the room with the plants in-situ...maybe tonight

Wowza, awesome job with tending to those beauties.

I'll be looking forward to viewing the Train Wreck to fruition. I recently smoked some for the second time. It's awesome stuff for me. I have a lot of muscular pain. It just literally melts it away. That's now my new "must have." That list is tremendously long! I want to be a strain whore like you when I grow up, LOL.

Super cropping is fun. I always did this by instinct with so many of my other plants. I didn't even know there was such a name for it until not too long ago.

I find the best way to do this is to gently "guide" your branches right from the beginning. I can visualize the course of most plants from early vegetation. It truly is fascinating to "design" your mini-garden.

Speaking of which, you and I have basically the same space and same amount of plants...I counted tonight.(ok, I have more) What can I say? I truly dig cloning.

I decided to try a trial party cup grow. LOL..not looking for tremendous yield obviously. I can't wait to see the end result..I'm determined to grow mini fat buds.

Blue Mountain oranics is what you are using, yes?

In any event, I'm not so sure I see so many of these lines being so significantly superior in comparison. Like you, I used a whole lot of the Fox Farm and then attempted other options. However, I never completely went with another line.

Recall I don't measure ANY thing...LOL.....one of these days I'll get serious about it--probably not.

I have so many concoctions, it's unreal.

I may just try to focus on the Botanicare in the near future. I love my hydro salesmen. They give me free samples galore.

My newest additions are the Hydroplex and "Sweet." No verdict on either yet, but I do like the simple concept of their line.

Again, plants looking divine!

Jerry Garcia · Feb 11, 2010

Babs34 said:
Wowza, awesome job with tending to those beauties.

I'll be looking forward to viewing the Train Wreck to fruition. I recently smoked some for the second time. It's awesome stuff for me. I have a lot of muscular pain. It just literally melts it away. That's now my new "must have." That list is tremendously long! I want to be a strain whore like you when I grow up, LOL.

Super cropping is fun. I always did this by instinct with so many of my other plants. I didn't even know there was such a name for it until not too long ago.

I find the best way to do this is to gently "guide" your branches right from the beginning. I can visualize the course of most plants from early vegetation. It truly is fascinating to "design" your mini-garden.

Speaking of which, you and I have basically the same space and same amount of plants...I counted tonight.(ok, I have more) What can I say? I truly dig cloning.

I decided to try a trial party cup grow. LOL..not looking for tremendous yield obviously. I can't wait to see the end result..I'm determined to grow mini fat buds.

Blue Mountain oranics is what you are using, yes?

In any event, I'm not so sure I see so many of these lines being so significantly superior in comparison. Like you, I used a whole lot of the Fox Farm and then attempted other options. However, I never completely went with another line.

Recall I don't measure ANY thing...LOL.....one of these days I'll get serious about it--probably not.

I have so many concoctions, it's unreal.

I may just try to focus on the Botanicare in the near future. I love my hydro salesmen. They give me free samples galore.

My newest additions are the Hydroplex and "Sweet." No verdict on either yet, but I do like the simple concept of their line.

Again, plants looking divine!

I'm looking forward to the trainwreck as well. Smoked some from a friend a few months ago and decided I needed it. I mean, it wrecked me like nothing I've ever hit (though this LSD is pretty damn potent). So yeah, should be fun!

I wish I had enough foresight to guide the plants...I always end up supercropping because I had NO foresight and let things get too big. In my defense though, it's tough to know how much a plant will stretch when you flower it for the first time from seed (and really from clone too).

I find supercropping is most effective on branches/colas that have a large internodal gap. The trainwrecks stretched like a mofo over the past 2 weeks, with like a 6" internode space on a 12" plant...which is just unacceptable. So I supercropped in the middle of the big space, tied down the branch, and it worked out great.

I'm using Blue Mountain Organics, Fox Farm Big Bloom, Botanicare Cal-Mag+, Fulvic Acid, Molasses, ocassionally some neptunes harvest fish/seaweed mix. But the soil gets ammended with guano and castings too. I love everything about organics and will probably never go back to synthetic nutrients.

goofygolfer · Feb 11, 2010

i'm not that impressed with the dna sour cream but the ppp on the other hand is doing awesome. especially with the abuse she had to endure , at the hands of a noob lol

cappeeler09 · Feb 11, 2010

just harvested my cheese
have a look and tell me what u think

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/277194-cheese-journal-2nd-grow.html

page 40

Jerry Garcia · Feb 12, 2010

cappeeler09 said:
just harvested my cheese
have a look and tell me what u think

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/277194-cheese-journal-2nd-grow.html

page 40

That cheese looks mouthwatering! Nice!

I just ordered some Big Buddha Cheese and G13 Pineapple Express from Attitude to get the February Greenhouse freebies Super Lemon Haze (what I was really after), Bubba Kush (also a bonus) and Kings Kush (grape flavored...I hope...).

I ended up getting 6 pretty awesome strains for under $50! I love the 'tude...

Sex Update: The Sleestack x Skunk and OG18 x Skunk are both confirmed females as of this morning :hump:

.

Both of their cloned tops have already rooted as well, so I'm stoked!

SL2 · Feb 12, 2010

Jerry Garcia said:
Sex Update: The Sleestack x Skunk and OG18 x Skunk are both confirmed females as of this morning .

Both of their cloned tops have already rooted as well, so I'm stoked!

Thats great man. They are regular seeds right? Hope my LACxS is a female... :bigjoint:

Jerry Garcia · Feb 12, 2010

SL2 said:
Thats great man. They are regular seeds right? Hope my LACxS is a female...

They were advertised as regular seeds...

I'm not complaining though!

Your LACxS is a monster compared to the other girls...I'm guessing you never topped or trained her?

SL2 · Feb 12, 2010

Jerry Garcia said:
They were advertised as regular seeds...

I'm not complaining though!

Your LACxS is a monster compared to the other girls...I'm guessing you never topped or trained her?

I hear ya it was another great deal from the tude. I would rather have a regular female seed in stead of a fem seed. Dont know why I just do lol

I really like that LACxS so far. Its a beautiful plant. The LACxS and one SharksBreath where the shortest so I left them alone. It is a lot bushier than the SB. The LACxS is getting a special nute mix though. Not sure if that made ber bushy. I like watching them grow natural but I know its best to keep an even canopy in a cabinet.... I will crop and tie if they cause the canopy to be uneven.

Im starting flower this weekend so Ill have some update pics of the Fab"9"!!!

:bigjoint:

SL2 · Feb 13, 2010

Jerry my LSD has pushed out some hairs...They are still under 18/6 5 or 6 weeks veg. What would cause this? Stress from topping? Fem seeds? One blueberry did the same thing:

Jerry Garcia · Feb 13, 2010

SL2 said:
Jerry my LSD has pushed out some hairs...They are still under 18/6 5 or 6 weeks veg. What would cause this? Stress from topping? Fem seeds? One blueberry did the same thing:

Those are just preflowers...your plant is telling you a) I'm a girl and b) I'm mature enough to begin flowering. It's totally normal...and a good sign!

SL2 · Feb 13, 2010

Thanks man, whoa thats a releif, I just havnt seen that this early and in veg before....YAHOO what a wonderful day...lol

Thanks J you made my day man...

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