Blue Dream 800W Induction Lights SOG

The Steve

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I promised the gentleman who sent me the lights to do a test with a 50 watt induction vs. a 90 watt LED vs. a 250 watt HPS. I have a feeling before the test is complete I'll be buying a 400 watt induction light to see what it can do. Based on this thread, I have hight hopes. The thought of actually having to use a heater in the winter is blowing my mind.
Do you have a journal up for this? Is it the bi-spectrum 50w one? I'm doing a grow with two 40w inductions right now. I love induction lighting so far but not many people use the lower watts. What do you think so far?
 

solcielo

Active Member
So just did a final burp/weigh and everything came out to 241g total all dried out. Left it hanging a little long (6 days) so it's probably a little crispier than I would have liked but burns very smooth and is exactly the way I really enjoy this strain. Quite conversational and when I burn some at home I find myself cleaning house like 30 minutes later. 179g in quality nugs and another 62g in what i consider popcorn or loose growth (neither figure includes the prematurely harvested plant :( ...) I really should have been more aggressive in trimming. I thought removing the little nodes off all the shoots was the idea when in reality I should have chopped off at least 1/2 of those shoots. Still have a lot of learning to do as this completes my second full indoor grow ever. Oh and I showed the slightly burned tops of some of the plants to a friend and we deduced it was burn from me seeing mites with lights on around week 6 and spraying that dilute rosemary spray on it combined with the light slightly toasted a couple of the tops...can't tell a difference in smoke.

After another 2 week hiatus I plan on sterilizing the room, adding a tarp underneath to help keep the area sterile and easier to clean around, and with the central air running in my house for summer I am going to seal the tent up entirely and put a 4" fan with carbon filter coming in and a 6" fan with carbon filter going out so that will be a whole lot of clean air moving around enough to keep things cool enough I think. Going to do 16-20 rooted clones with about 10 days to veg. Also considering changing strain to skunk#1 or super skunk as it has such a fast finish time on the flowers (7 weeks). Will definitely be more aggressive and thorough with fluoromite in veg and consistent neem oil treatments after that to prevent spider mites (%#@%) from coming back. Unless I just find a really great deal on craigslist I will probably hold off with CO2 enrichment till the following cycle but that's eventually going to make it's way into my garden.

Thus completes this journal; questions, sales pitches, and curiosities should take a look at some of the general induction lighting threads. Of course positive feedback is always welcome as I never get tired of having my ego stroked. I was hoping for a higher yield but I still am quite amateur and could have done some things better I'll give a try next time; certainly nothing negative to say about these lights they have been a great replacement to the 1000W MH/HPS for my situation. Kuddo's all around to those who helped make this a more informative and helpful thread to those looking to use a (presently) non-conventional and arguably superior light source.
 

xyzxyz

Member
Well done and thanks for the show. If you can obtain it, I would definately suggest the addition of Co2. As you have shown, these lights work well however to utilise their full potential, Co2 is a necessity. Have you lookied into the Under Current System? I think with the massive reduction in heat from using the induction lights , a sealed room with Co2 and the use of an Under Current system (Easy do DIY especially on small scale) and it would blow you away. Will be looking forward to your next run and hopefully improve upon the GPW.
 

bhicks

Active Member
"So just did a final burp/weigh and everything came out to 241g total all dried out."
Question - is that total (i.e. both lights), or per light?
 

chazbolin

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Dominique if 35% of the products are not 'localized' in China then we have our work cut out for us. There is an ideological shift occurring in America and much of it has to do with China trampling on us by taking our jobs (how do you compete with $7.00 per day labor?) our technologies, and sending us inferior products.

Germany has it right and we're going to take back that mentality here in the USA. German products are more expensive but people around the globe are willing to pay more for that quality, attention to detail and customer service.

I have no problem with buying quality products from anywhere they may be produced and will always support a fair trade principal but you guys @ mland or genesis et al don't get it. You throw your spiel into a good journal with a late game ridicule of the very technology that you're trying to promote.

Socielo has only completed his second grow here. So he's still learning his way around and I know that he's going to get better results as he goes along. For him to journal his work so everyone can see it is a contribution to our community. Don't insult his choice of lamps. I've seen mland advertised for as much as $1,400 from your North American 'distributors'. Which means nothing since you'll sell direct anyway and then when there is a problem with the direct sale it ends up not being under warranty for whatever byzantine reasoning you guys cook up over there.

quit trash talking other companies and address your own problems; http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/consumer-complaints/43716-bi-spectrum-super-grow-lights-mland-global-china.html

thanks for this journal Solcielo. I look forward to seeing your improvements.

how's the smoke?
 

KawiZZR

Active Member
What made you decide to go with a SOG over a SCROG? How do you think these lights would perform in a SCROG?
 

solcielo

Active Member
Availability of clones and much quicker results. I think they would do really well with scrog style growing especially since most people growing that way are dealing with height issues and you can put these lamps really close to the top.
 

KawiZZR

Active Member
Availability of clones and much quicker results. I think they would do really well with scrog style growing especially since most people growing that way are dealing with height issues and you can put these lamps really close to the top.
Thank you, what is the closest you would allow these lights to get to the tops and what kind of penetration would they have at that height?
 

solcielo

Active Member
Thank you, what is the closest you would allow these lights to get to the tops and what kind of penetration would they have at that height?
I was advised to keep them 2' away during veg and 1' away during bloom but that the plants can grow up into the grill of the lights themselves and touch the bulb but may bleach some if you let them get that close. I would advise trimming everything past the second or third node to make for about 14"-18" of heavy frosty nug with minimal popcorn.
 

KawiZZR

Active Member
I was advised to keep them 2' away during veg and 1' away during bloom but that the plants can grow up into the grill of the lights themselves and touch the bulb but may bleach some if you let them get that close. I would advise trimming everything past the second or third node to make for about 14"-18" of heavy frosty nug with minimal popcorn.
Sounds good, I'd be perfectly happy with that depth of coverage. Gonna consider these for when I eventually upgrade to a larger space. My largest area available right now is just 4" too narrow to fit one of these. :cry:
 

solcielo

Active Member
Happy 4/20 all... if a bit belated. So I bought another set of clones (LA Confidential x 20 as well as God's Gift x 5) and soaking rockwool as I type, preparing for transplant tomorrow. Will start a new journal soon under much the same conditions with some pics soon.
 

Donzettie

Member
Newbie here. I was looking at a Quantum Bad Boy 16 lamp T5HO(864 watts) for $400, set up over a 4x4 area. Can anyone give me an idea if the same watts of T5HO would be comparable to the two 400 watt lights in this thread?
 

Lucius Vorenus

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WOW your running two of the 400's. It is a good turn out!!! So you are saving half you bills with decent results. Plus lights last longer to my knowledge. You going to stick with them?
But isn't the cost of these lights like $900 each?????? A 600 watt HPS setup with bulb and ballast would run about $225.
 
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