Blue Dream in Coco. 12x6, 2x1000 HPS

InsaneMJ

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Ok so I'm boring out the ebb an grow buckets. I'm going to only do 16 to run a test trial. Regardless I think I'll be stepping it up to 1 inch piping. So I'll bore out the rest of the buckets. Also I'll be taking out the t connections in the system which I think will help it drain and flood quicker. And I just bought the inline pump 350 gph to try to copy the uc system with the water return back to the controller bucket inorder to create the current. I just have to cut a bunch of piping to 6" a piece to connect all the buckets. Then get some adapter for the pump from 3/4" to 1 inch.
 

InsaneMJ

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Ok, so I'm in the middle of customizing my ebb and grow and I'm noticing that these 1" pieces wont fit to shit besides the rubber hoses,which i didn't want, and I just drilled out 8 buckets(glad I didn't do all 48)... so I run down to the store and get a 1" bit and a shit load of 3/4" threaded 1 side and slip on the other. Its a tighter fit, doesnt wiggle or shit, way easier to cut too. Since I'm only doing 16 just for the test run to be safe, I think it'll come out way better then the original design. Regardless if the circulation works or not, I'll get way better flow in my buckets. View attachment 1993051View attachment 1993052View attachment 1993053

As you can see this was the first bucket, and I didn't do the other side yet... I was so happy I rolled up a blunt... which I'm smokin right now :)
 

InsaneMJ

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Lol, I think to do a 32 pot site which I will be doing for my 6x12 rooms when their complete(which will never happen if I keep on changing shot up) I will need to run another 350 gph pump so that way it has an even flow for both sides. Or connect everything at the end and get a stronger pump to compensate.
 

InsaneMJ

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I already drilled the holes on the controller bucket. I decided I will use 4 of the 6 original holes. I'ma try to find a way to patch up the other 2. It's not as straight as it could be but I think I can work out the kinks.. Idk if I will though, I'd rather just roll a blunt lol. Plus I gotta go over it all and caulk it all up or put pvc glue on it.. The last part for the pump I was probably just going to use some hose because the top part of the pump was 1/2 inch while the bottom was 3/4 weird..
What do ya think HR? I know your probably dying to see this one.
 

InsaneMJ

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I'll have the project done by tomorrow some time. I gotta buy a few more things to complete it. But for the most part its pretty much fully assembled. I decided to go with 7x2 for each row instead of 8, reason being the amount of room I have. I'll have 2 sets of these when I'm done. Hopefully 1 350 gallon pump will be enough for both, but I'm still thinkin 2 is gonna be necessary.
 

InsaneMJ

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ok so I did the intial test, and the pump was a little too strong, you could definately see it working though because all the buckets started to have alittle vortex going.. I didn't really clean them too well so that's how i saw the vortex going, from the debri in the water. I'm going to go head and do it to another 14 buckets to have a total of 28 buckets. I think this 350 gph pump will be able to move enough water for both sides.
 

InsaneMJ

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So the coco run is doing great, the plants are about 22-24 inches. I'm going to give them the 48 hour darkness then flip it into flower... Reason being is because I'd rather experience this stretch for myself rather then taking his word for it... If it only stretches to 30-34 inches I'll still be happy even though I'm used to 40" plants. Regardless it's also alot of work for me to be trimmin and curing and everything by myself. It's a lot of work.

Now to update the customized ebb and grow...

Ok with the system the way I customized it, it will allow me to be able to run it both ways. The first way is the one that cap designed, and the other that UC designed. What I liked about the Ebb and Grow is the ability to control up to 48 buckets, and it's a pretty good producer. Now what I didn't like was the T connections to each site, along with that the 1/2 inch bull shyt. Now what I liked about the UC design is that it allows for a constant flow to each bucket(they took out the T and added a return pump back to the controller unit), which in turn allows for fresher water, nutes, and air to the roots, versus the ebb and grow where they just sit in the water. What I didn't like was the price... Fuck that lol. Also they're using so much more water, you'd have to compensate by adding in more nutes IMO.

Tomorrow I'm going to do another test run with all 24 buckets attached and see if the 1" connection will be able to keep up with the 350 gph pump. Before it was a little too fast, but that was with only 12, tomorrow I will have all 24 buckets connected and the return lines with both connect to a T which then will hit the single pump. I think with all 24 buckets it will allow for proper drainage, and allow the unit to keep up with the pump. Reason why I think this is because before it was slightly too high, but that was because it only had 2 exits to fill the 12 buckets, now I have 4 exits which will allow for faster draining. Which I hope will compensate for the pump..

So far the cost of the conversion, with the pvc and connector pieces, caulking, and drill bit was roughly about 60-75$ I'm not 100% because most the time I was just running in an out of the store just buyin shit. The pump was 83$ and I bought 27$ worth of shit I don't need which I'll be returning tomorrow lol.
So in the end it cost about 150$ give or take to convert the ebb and grow(24 pot site) to a working UC system. Granted it may not be as large, therefore not getting as strong as a current, but fuck for 1/2 the price. I can wait till I got extra dough to blow. I'll post pictures tomorrow, it's dark right now and the shit is set up outside because there's not enough room in the rooms right now.
Any questions, comments?
 

400aZip

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good shit... Blue dream is an all time classic and the other strains you're working with sound killer. in for the long run
 

InsaneMJ

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I will either today or tomorrow, I did a little test trial with just 12 and the pump was slightly too strong. So I think it should be fine for all 24. If not I'll downgrade to a 250 gph. Other then that it was working. It drains and fills in about 3 minutes too versus the usual
30 min wait
 

InsaneMJ

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I got some more picture updates on the system. Hopefully I'll finish it up today, I'm pretty far ahead. Once I get everything in the room and assembled then I'll go head and use pvc glue to seal it, right now I'm using caulking for the majority of it to do test runs with it. The controller unit I'll be leaving the caulking on it though just so that way its like a super water tight fit. Also on the connector pieces to the buckets I'll leave the caulking on. So basically anything thats Pvc to pvc will be changing out the caulking for the pvc glue.
I'm pretty far into the project so hopefully an hour or two left then I can go for a nother test run.
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InsaneMJ

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I don't think the function of this will be as accurate as the UC design, but it's still going to allow the same flow and water movement which should overall help. I'm thinking of replacing the inner buckets with the lids with the nets attached to it, then using my inner buckets for my coco grow the rest of the time. They work great lol.
 

hellraizer30

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I was just thinking you should switch to net pot and new lids, this setup is huge i hope it works, are you going to supply
A air stone to each bucket like the uc system guys run?
 

InsaneMJ

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Yeah I bought about 32 1" connector pieces for hoses which I thought would work for the pvc, but didn't so I'll return those an buy the lids with the nets, then if I cant get those I'll gohead and get airstones for each bucket. Regardless if the return pump doesnt work properly, I can still do the flood and drain method just as easily as before. Except this time I get way better drain and fill time lol. But yeah I've actually always wanted to put an airstone in the buckets, so after this coco run's done I'll be throwing it in that room to do a test run with it. Worse case scenario is that I gotta take out the return pump. Which won't really affect too much anyways. Just take out some extra piping is all.
 

InsaneMJ

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This was about 46 hours into the 48 hour darkness before the lights popped back on. As you can see their startin to get pretty beastly so I just spread them out. I'm starting to think 3 p's is more logical with this run, unless I add a third thousand. Then I'll shoot more towards 4 1/2 5. But I think I'ma sit it out with just two for now. See what happens. Also I wanted to kind of see if their is a difference in quality or quanity when switching from hydro to coco. My next run will most likely be hydro again, since I just customized my ebb and grow. It's not 100% done but when it is I'll go head and take some pictures for ya. Yesterday wasn't a good day to work on it since I've been desperately wanting to blow off some rounds, so I did myself a favor and took out the old rifle. Just threw on a new scope mount and scope, so I had to try it out lol. The scopes still a little off but after a few more rounds I should have it dialed in.
 
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