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Stickyjones

Stickyjones

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hillbill said:
Soulmate will stink the place up. I had 5 plants that were quite different looking from each other but similar other ways. Very loud........Very!
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What kind of stink did ypur soul mates have? Ive been teying to figure out what im gonna pick up for glg anniversary and thats a contender
 
FlakeyFoont

FlakeyFoont

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Greybush7387 said:
Hot shots no pest strip no fans and the vapor gets em 2 days then bag it up or lave it in grow room on the floor near pots
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You may want to rethink that suggestion, just a heads up.

NO PEST STRIPS

DDVP/Dichlorvos/No Pest Strips are no good for cannabis cultivation. Dichlorvos is a volatile cholinesterase inhibiting organophosphate.
So volatile it is primarily used as a fumigant. It is a proven carcinogen. A 2010 study found that each 10-fold increase in urinary concentration of organophosphate metabolites was associated with a 55% to 72% increase in the odds of ADHD in children. It conclusively binds to DNA although it's mutagenic properties are still being debated.
The FDA has been restricting it's usage more and more every year as new information has come out. According to the MSDS and most labels- It is NEVER to be stored around children, food, seed, or fertilizer.

It was Restricted in the European Union after 2002.

From the NO PEST STRIPS Label- Always read the Label- especially when applying to your medicine. - bottom of page is a link-

NOT FOR USE IN OCCUPIED HOMES-
Do not be in the presence of strips in unoccupied areas for more than 4 hours -in garage, shed, attic, or other normally unoccupied area. (not including food areas)
Only use pest strips is the area will be unoccupied for 4 months.
Do not use in the food/feed processing or food/feed manufacturing or food/feed service establishments (you can't legally hang this in a restaurant!)

A little article on dichlorvous- http://www.wired.com/2014/01/cdc-war...e-pest-strips/


As you say- The poison is in the dose, and dichlovous doesn't take much to become poison.You couldn't be more spot on with that statement. But obviously some things are far more toxic than others, and considering you aren't allowed to be in the same room as this pesticide, handle it without gloves, breathe near it without a respirator, nor are you supposed to use it near anything that is considered food or will grow to become food I would never, ever consider putting a no pest strip anywhere near your plants. It volatilizes off the strip, into the air, and onto the plant, which you then either oxidize or consume. The combustion and inhalation of organophosphates aren't even studied, as they included on the label not to smoke or use tobacco when using dichlorvos, so they don't even need to further research the nasty effects it can have on you when lit on fire and inhaled. It's toxic enough on it's own through dermal exposure As you know oxidation and combustion completely change the molecular makeup of these chemicals and can make them much more toxic.

And on that subject I strongly advise anyone who uses Sevin outside on their property, to stop using Carbaryl immediately. Bayer did a study in the 80's about toxicity with regards to tobacco smoke, and through the study, found it to be extremely toxic to those who use cannabis, though not so bad for those just using tobacco. Apparently when cannabis binds to the cannabinoid receptors, it allows the carbaryl to more easily disrupt the cholinesterese system. Considering that organophosphates work with the same mode of action, it would be reasonable to assume the NO PEST STRIPS/DDVP are also more toxic to cannabis users as well. Pesticide companies don't have to warn you of this, because cannabis is a Schedule 1 substance. If it were schedule two, they would have to further research the link between cannabis users and increased toxicity from cholinesterese inhibitors. If I forgot to mention before, although atropine may be used as an emergency antidote for acute toxicity/poisonings. Most damage done to the nervous system is irreversible.

Stay away from Organophosphates, Organochlorides and Carbamates if possible folks- there's so many safer options out there that really do work.Pyrethroids for example are a great place to start. We're trying to make people medicine, not poison them or ourselves.
 
Diesel0889

Diesel0889

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Chronic811 said:
Jbc has guava Wookie in stock now
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F### I cant spend a god damn dime. I ask everyone here to not buy them up lol... shit!!!

On the upside I did get in an order in from BAS and that always makes for a good day but... guava wookie would have been better I have wanted this strain for a very long time it seems. A member here posted some bad ass pics of it, multiple phenos and all looked like fire. I believe he said it would be hard to choose a keeper. Other than a shitty gnat infestation I think my 4x4 bed would be able to do justice and push it to full potential indoors. My fluence led and grassroots bed, thermx70, aloe, ful power, agsil 16, coconut water, malted barley powdered into top dress every week or 2 or gro kashi, occasionally a tea regimen have truly changed the game a bit and has resulted in unbelievable flowers and the bigger bed has cut down maintenance a bit... When I get my genetic library in order in the next year or 2 I think I'll be in a happy place. I won't rest till I have a keeper cut or a pack or 2 of guava in the fridge.. I will say a bean prayer tonight... my half way (now anyway) good day. God bless BAS... happy growing!
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Diesel0889

Diesel0889

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FlakeyFoont said:
You may want to rethink that suggestion, just a heads up.

NO PEST STRIPS

DDVP/Dichlorvos/No Pest Strips are no good for cannabis cultivation. Dichlorvos is a volatile cholinesterase inhibiting organophosphate.
So volatile it is primarily used as a fumigant. It is a proven carcinogen. A 2010 study found that each 10-fold increase in urinary concentration of organophosphate metabolites was associated with a 55% to 72% increase in the odds of ADHD in children. It conclusively binds to DNA although it's mutagenic properties are still being debated.
The FDA has been restricting it's usage more and more every year as new information has come out. According to the MSDS and most labels- It is NEVER to be stored around children, food, seed, or fertilizer.

It was Restricted in the European Union after 2002.

From the NO PEST STRIPS Label- Always read the Label- especially when applying to your medicine. - bottom of page is a link-

NOT FOR USE IN OCCUPIED HOMES-
Do not be in the presence of strips in unoccupied areas for more than 4 hours -in garage, shed, attic, or other normally unoccupied area. (not including food areas)
Only use pest strips is the area will be unoccupied for 4 months.
Do not use in the food/feed processing or food/feed manufacturing or food/feed service establishments (you can't legally hang this in a restaurant!)

A little article on dichlorvous- http://www.wired.com/2014/01/cdc-war...e-pest-strips/


As you say- The poison is in the dose, and dichlovous doesn't take much to become poison.You couldn't be more spot on with that statement. But obviously some things are far more toxic than others, and considering you aren't allowed to be in the same room as this pesticide, handle it without gloves, breathe near it without a respirator, nor are you supposed to use it near anything that is considered food or will grow to become food I would never, ever consider putting a no pest strip anywhere near your plants. It volatilizes off the strip, into the air, and onto the plant, which you then either oxidize or consume. The combustion and inhalation of organophosphates aren't even studied, as they included on the label not to smoke or use tobacco when using dichlorvos, so they don't even need to further research the nasty effects it can have on you when lit on fire and inhaled. It's toxic enough on it's own through dermal exposure As you know oxidation and combustion completely change the molecular makeup of these chemicals and can make them much more toxic.

And on that subject I strongly advise anyone who uses Sevin outside on their property, to stop using Carbaryl immediately. Bayer did a study in the 80's about toxicity with regards to tobacco smoke, and through the study, found it to be extremely toxic to those who use cannabis, though not so bad for those just using tobacco. Apparently when cannabis binds to the cannabinoid receptors, it allows the carbaryl to more easily disrupt the cholinesterese system. Considering that organophosphates work with the same mode of action, it would be reasonable to assume the NO PEST STRIPS/DDVP are also more toxic to cannabis users as well. Pesticide companies don't have to warn you of this, because cannabis is a Schedule 1 substance. If it were schedule two, they would have to further research the link between cannabis users and increased toxicity from cholinesterese inhibitors. If I forgot to mention before, although atropine may be used as an emergency antidote for acute toxicity/poisonings. Most damage done to the nervous system is irreversible.

Stay away from Organophosphates, Organochlorides and Carbamates if possible folks- there's so many safer options out there that really do work.Pyrethroids for example are a great place to start. We're trying to make people medicine, not poison them or ourselves.
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Honestly I'm to Organic I guess for that to be a consideration but this is SOLID info. Very informative post. This will help many make a better choice. Thank you!!! And thank you to all who have given answers. I hate useing DE but put down a dusting and numbers are falling. Sticky traps will be hung shortly. I may have to water tonight though... part of what de sucks lol... if I'm ever unsure on watering I have a moisture meter and if I'm above 3 it's a no go unless in mid to late flower and I wont be home till late the next day. Still getting the 4x4 bed rythm down (2nd flower run)

I VERY much appreciate all the help this thread has offered, I really do. I have been growing a long time and gotten very good at it but will always take solid advice... some members that frequent this thread are very helpful and willing to go the extra mile to help you, offer free proven beans, clone etc. Solid place for great advice from people that know they are good but never EVER act like a stuck up dick about it. New name for thread (the bodhi pay it forward community). Its great how well we all help each other and get along. It makes me mad seeing other threads or forum putting down people staring out down because they dont have it figured out yet. Even people who dont post to show they are good or even have advice worth listening to act like an asshole. Simply put there are no keyboard warriors in this thread EVER! Only good folk willing to help those who need it. I am honored to be a part of it. I love to help and put good karma in the bank. Thank you all for keeping this thread a plesant place to be!
Happy growing!
 
Warpedpassage

Warpedpassage

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FlakeyFoont said:
You may want to rethink that suggestion, just a heads up.

NO PEST STRIPS

DDVP/Dichlorvos/No Pest Strips are no good for cannabis cultivation. Dichlorvos is a volatile cholinesterase inhibiting organophosphate.
So volatile it is primarily used as a fumigant. It is a proven carcinogen. A 2010 study found that each 10-fold increase in urinary concentration of organophosphate metabolites was associated with a 55% to 72% increase in the odds of ADHD in children. It conclusively binds to DNA although it's mutagenic properties are still being debated.
The FDA has been restricting it's usage more and more every year as new information has come out. According to the MSDS and most labels- It is NEVER to be stored around children, food, seed, or fertilizer.

It was Restricted in the European Union after 2002.

From the NO PEST STRIPS Label- Always read the Label- especially when applying to your medicine. - bottom of page is a link-

NOT FOR USE IN OCCUPIED HOMES-
Do not be in the presence of strips in unoccupied areas for more than 4 hours -in garage, shed, attic, or other normally unoccupied area. (not including food areas)
Only use pest strips is the area will be unoccupied for 4 months.
Do not use in the food/feed processing or food/feed manufacturing or food/feed service establishments (you can't legally hang this in a restaurant!)

A little article on dichlorvous- http://www.wired.com/2014/01/cdc-war...e-pest-strips/


As you say- The poison is in the dose, and dichlovous doesn't take much to become poison.You couldn't be more spot on with that statement. But obviously some things are far more toxic than others, and considering you aren't allowed to be in the same room as this pesticide, handle it without gloves, breathe near it without a respirator, nor are you supposed to use it near anything that is considered food or will grow to become food I would never, ever consider putting a no pest strip anywhere near your plants. It volatilizes off the strip, into the air, and onto the plant, which you then either oxidize or consume. The combustion and inhalation of organophosphates aren't even studied, as they included on the label not to smoke or use tobacco when using dichlorvos, so they don't even need to further research the nasty effects it can have on you when lit on fire and inhaled. It's toxic enough on it's own through dermal exposure As you know oxidation and combustion completely change the molecular makeup of these chemicals and can make them much more toxic.

And on that subject I strongly advise anyone who uses Sevin outside on their property, to stop using Carbaryl immediately. Bayer did a study in the 80's about toxicity with regards to tobacco smoke, and through the study, found it to be extremely toxic to those who use cannabis, though not so bad for those just using tobacco. Apparently when cannabis binds to the cannabinoid receptors, it allows the carbaryl to more easily disrupt the cholinesterese system. Considering that organophosphates work with the same mode of action, it would be reasonable to assume the NO PEST STRIPS/DDVP are also more toxic to cannabis users as well. Pesticide companies don't have to warn you of this, because cannabis is a Schedule 1 substance. If it were schedule two, they would have to further research the link between cannabis users and increased toxicity from cholinesterese inhibitors. If I forgot to mention before, although atropine may be used as an emergency antidote for acute toxicity/poisonings. Most damage done to the nervous system is irreversible.

Stay away from Organophosphates, Organochlorides and Carbamates if possible folks- there's so many safer options out there that really do work.Pyrethroids for example are a great place to start. We're trying to make people medicine, not poison them or ourselves.
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Logged in just to second this. Not to mention the strips will not do much to the larvae.
 
Rosinallday

Rosinallday

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Hey bodhi family. Didn't have any pure bodhi crosses this season but here are some pics of Mac x dla5. Best smoke of the season. Colombian domination with some of that gamy influence of the male. These nugs have some kind of incredible flavor. Well worth popping if you've been sitting on some of them beans. This crew are the only ones that got seeds from my ultimate keeper female. The mac x aaw not too shabby either.
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Paddletail

Paddletail

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Had 2 of those in my last run and they were very nice. 1 had that gamey thing going so bad during flower, it got to where I stopped touching it as it almost made me sick. After chop and cure it was the most beautiful tapioca pudding smell. The other was purple with a nice nose thats hard to describe.
 
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Palckl899014

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Hey guys having a rough time choosing my freebie at glg. Cant decide between terpenado, gg4xssdd, or gg4x omg. Maybe someone could give me a hand? I appreciate the feed back
 
Nutbag Poster

Nutbag Poster

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Palckl899014 said:
Hey guys having a rough time choosing my freebie at glg. Cant decide between terpenado, gg4xssdd, or gg4x omg. Maybe someone could give me a hand? I appreciate the feed back
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Here's a perspective. With the terpenado, Bodhi created BOTH parents and chose to match them up. With the other two, he's matching his created/selected males with somebody else's creation. So would you like to try a double dose of Bodhi creativity, or stick with his twist on a known commodity? I've tried none of these myself though, so nothing more to add.
 
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