OGEvilgenius
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The Haven?
bodhi seeds
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The Haven?
Mad Hamish
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Pretty close. 'herijuana and her kin'. I should trademark that punchline.
Not a chance. I love all my followers.......not to be confused with stalkers.
Finally having fun
There we go, I knew there was a clown in there somewhere. I will stop now. EPIC fun Amos. EPIC.
Mad Hamish
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Here we have an issue that I have become aware of lately. Testers can really take the piss. The amount of half-finished or merely started and abandoned logs is astounding. As you say, it costs bucks and effort to get these test beans out. The way in which I receive them show the utmost care and consideration with packaging, the Mug Shop can learn a thing or 10 from breeders.
This is insanely sad. And I think a big mistake on the testers behalf. I have a theory that people think they are the first person to run it, and the smallest little issue and they chuck 'em out and flower their other gear. Few realize that the beans in their hands already had several runs in dirty rooms and have had severe stress thrown at them. What the breeder (not the pollen-chucker) wants is to get feedback on real-world scenarios, something they can only reserve for their best cuts, the rest of their space is taken up by moms, dads, seeded ladies, dirty rooms, etc.
Another factor is ignorance. Testers expect prompt and detailed feedback from the breeder. This is NOT usually the case. If you try contact B, he WILL respond. It might take a week, when his son was born 2 weeks was not out of the ordinary before he had a gap to send one of those super-sweet and considerate replies. This does not mean he has no interest, it means he is running on his red line and the fact I got a gap should be appreciated. One man show.
Try and contact m4k, and half the time he is on the road to go run another booth at another cup or expo. Those guys travel insane amounts. They do ALL their own work, planting, cropping, running mothers and cuts for dispensaries, they do all their own design, print all the packs themselves. If you plant one of their beans, one of the two breeders put them in that bag themselves. For it to take time to respond is par for the course. These people work insanely hard.
Between B and m4k, I have been offered enough gear to run for a lifetime. I have started declining offers now. Why do they like sending me gear, because I am a good grower? NO. I can sure hold my own, but I am nowhere near the level of people like Calicat, Genuity, GandalfdaGreen, etc etc etc. Here is why:
1- When I find it difficult to connect, I keep trying. This shows that it is as important to me for feedback to reach the breeder as it is to them, and that I am willing to make it a priority. Not only that, it shows that I am considerate of the fact they live high-intensity lifestyles, smoke weed, and forget stuff every now and then.
2- I am excited about everything, and genuinely so. This shows that I will not waste their time and get the beans in the ground ASAP.
3-When things go wrong, I don't just quit. I try and figure out why it went wrong. I consult with the breeder and then I have another go. The Deadly G gear as example: Clusterfunk Remix was a herm bomb, and also B decided to not use the DeadlyG male anyhow. I have a pack of Dank Sinatra RMX and Dank Zappa each. Am I abandoning those and asking for something else? Nope, I am taking the long road, raising them till I can clone, cloning, mothering clones and then cloning off those again to go to flower. I am making an attempt at using little bits of theory I got from Gen and Calicat and the community at large to see if a stable mother or 5 can be had from some Deadly G gear.
It took 3 goes to fully manage declining B's offer of BUYING me a pack of Strawblock x Aruba with two 'free' packs thrown in, Zombie Dong and Dirty Queen. He knows how much I love the Beaver, so he was going to buy me beans on auction to spend his credit he has at the Bay... I had to go make an order at the Mug Shop and tell him 'no, really, we are now sorted with B gear'. It makes one realize how many people just grab the test packs and run.
4- When things go well, I go out and announce it to the entire planet, showing everybody the fantastic buds that can be had from these fellas. And I try return their favor by doing little things like making an info thread or hitting the Frostiest Buds thread and promoting their name a little.
I fully believe this is how I make myself useful. It takes some effort every now and then when the working day was long, your wife or kid are sick and you can't seem to find the time to even take some pics. But during those times, I light a fat joint, and I think about my friends having to travel all the time to promote their good work, I pray for their safety, and I am grateful that my lifestyle is nowhere near THAT high-powered. I get off my ass, I log in, and I upload the shots. I zip open the tent, get under the canopy and clean up possible inter-sexing sites. I e-mail Gen to ask about a particular little niggle to ensure good pics a week or two from now. I get hold of Munkie to help me annoy m4k into a response. And I have fun with it.
5- Finally, and most importantly really, I do not suffer from 'expectonite' which is a term a mate coined for 'the sum total potential for disappointment, directly proportional to your level of expectation'. I don't expect a good yield, flavor, high or anything. So every single little good thing, I notice, and I mention.
It is such simple, easy stuff. All those empty and abandoned logs, man, those are the saddest things I have ever seen.
Flaming Pie
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Not to mention the empty logs suck for people wanting to research the strain while growing.
I spend alot of time looking and grow logs to see how my plant compares and if I could be doing something better for her.
I spend alot of time looking and grow logs to see how my plant compares and if I could be doing something better for her.
st0wandgrow
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TonightYou
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I think the thing with journals are it takes time. That why I do a more detailed notes for myself and take sexy photos for when the plant finishes or is doing its thing. Some people have a knack for incredible journals, alas I don't have time to document every week updates. I do appreciate any thorough grow journal or even a recap
st0wandgrow
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I for one appreciate people like you taking the time to document grows and posting pics. It's the best way to decide what strains and/or breeders to try IMO. Objective information. I pay no attention to breeder pics and descriptions. They are going to show you and tell you everything you want to hear. Ever seen a breeder describe one of their strains as average??
While I admire the work of folks like MH and genuity (both know their way around a garden), I feel that testers are a bit biased as they have an affiliation with that particular company, and the reviews are considered with that in mind.
coolkid.02
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BSHB is a very nice line... I ended up with 5 females and one male. Pictures are up at breedbay in the Bodhi section under "BSHB doc_d grow", 3 are around week 6 and 2 were put into flower 2-3 weeks ago.
If you have em, pop em
Amos Otis
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I had that happen on the first run of SSDD and Blood Orange seemingly overnight at about the first week of 12/12 - posted pics in this thread and asked around about it. I do DWC, and did a couple unscheduled reservoir changes before deciding they are both nitrogen hogs that outran the nutrient strength guide. I overcompensated, and ended up w/ some burn. As you say, though, the buds seemed unaffected. I do, however, consider that a failed run...at least as far as fairly judging the strains. Which is why I immediately followed with a 2nd run of both. This time, I upped the nitrogen at changeover, and kept it high through week 3 of bloom. No problems.
TonightYou
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B gear really loves nitrogen going into flower, a trait I've noticed and had to correct a couple of times from under feeding.
kgp
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Right on. I don't want hype. I dont want only positives. I want to see real world results. The bad with the good.
im still a little bitter looking at a thread or two where I gave my opinions and got bashed. Believe me, I wanted to like the strains and breeders. I didn't get them for free, I bought them.
The guys mentioned are great growers but their grows a and opinions don't mean much to me at all.
greasemonkeymann
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I think for some it's just not possible to do a thorough grow journal, i'm documenting photos and such for a couple strains i'm trying, and at the END i'll post all the pics at once, it's a lil annoying that many of the journals are unfinished, I just don't have the time to keep checking in...
Granted i'll not be posting a lot of vegging pics, as I kinda don't value that information as much as seeing the final product, stretch percentage, budding tendencies, fert preferences, etc. I feel those are more valuable than a picture of a vegging plant that is virtually not distinct. I also like to do a smoke report at the same time, the end product won't necessarily be cured perfectly, but you'll have an idea of what ya got.
It's easier in my opinion to just do the entire grow report at once, than to do it in increments, especially when you consider my attention span, or lack thereof.
I'm not criticizing anyone, just saying that works better for my stoner-attention span.
It's all good, I can identify my weaknesses.
DustyNugs
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Thanks guys, great info! I've been on the lighter side with feeding and I guess it shows with these gals. Can't imagine how good they're gonna be once I get a feel for them. They look and smell amazing for being a little malnourished. SSDD#2 is in another flowering group and I'm gonna try to avoid this problem with it since it's only about 2 weeks in.
Since some of these are about half way there, I decided to soak some more beans last night... 3 Tigers Milk and 3 Silver Mountain are on the way. Off topic but I'm soaking the last 4 Island Sweet Skunk from Federation Se-eds that I've had for many many years. I found a pheno years ago (and lost it) that still to this day was some of the best smoke I've had.
genuity
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tigers milk was some damn fine smoke,non GGG strain....yea i do grow all kinds of breeders gear,and keep it real on all of them,not like i see in most threads..
just a grower & shower.....i like to make my post short & try to let the plants show the results.
and she had some nanners,and i kept growing her for a few runs...it's nothing to me.
nugs....
who cares what anyone thinks of anybody,it's lot of breeder attention seeking going on...
and the focus should be on the seeds you choose to grow.
just a grower & shower.....i like to make my post short & try to let the plants show the results.
and she had some nanners,and i kept growing her for a few runs...it's nothing to me.
nugs....
who cares what anyone thinks of anybody,it's lot of breeder attention seeking going on...
and the focus should be on the seeds you choose to grow.
Flaming Pie
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st0wandgrow
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Have you grown the Silver Mountain before Dusty? Wonder what Bodhis cut of SSH is like.
TonightYou
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eh, not enough space nor time to try every breeder/line. When I get into Bodhi it was new to me, saw some awesome plants being grown, was happy with results and just keep giving him my money (others have gotten it too). Not every breeder is worth my time or money. I look at our community of enthusiast. Good example would be like car people. Some auto enthusiasts love their BWM, or Audi and could talk all day over the nuances and pros/cons. Other people just look at it as a tool, juse like people who couldn't care less where their ganja is from as long as it gets them stoned. Different strokes is all
