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AdvancedBuffalo

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Im just throwing out what ive experienced with em. The lucky wookie keeper was just plain ugly and smelled like bo mixed with onions. It was culled eventhough it was great smoke for being to ugly fluffy non productive with weird terps so i understand the production aspects somewhat Wo checks all the boxes you just listed and is highly underrated . Ive run through a lot bodhi including goji bbhp jungle spice dla6 nikah sunshine head nigerian prob etc and a few from csii and the wookie orgasms is one of the longest running bodhis thats been kept. To each his own but the wookie is no slouch is all im saying.
Oh yeah I wasn’t dismissing wookie. Was just saying I will have to do a lot of hunting to find a serious keeper from what I have seen so far. The Appy, HP, and Snow Lotus dads just seem to throw much more consistent phenos that hit all the points I look for. I think the hunt size will just have to be a lot bigger to get the same end result.

I’m sure there is some absolute fire in those packs. The terpenado really peaked my interest last time I ran it so I’m going to get a few more packs together to run. Divine intervention is another one. I also have banana spliff incoming. I wish space monkey was still available but I don’t see it anywhere.

This talk has pushed me towards doing a wookie hunt. Next seed hunt will be geared towards that.

That's an excellent defense of a very valid approach. It's not quite mine but I definitely won't roast you for it. There's kind of a fundamental question... are you growing bud for yourself or other people? The second is are you trying to maximize your output from the square footage of your grow space or can you tolerate some wasted "real estate". Those two questions split the crew around here kinda equally I'd guess.

I hear a lot of people say they can't sell bud that doesn't have visual appeal even if the buzz is incredible. What would happen if you gave out a little sample (maybe just a half gram) with every purchase for a bit. I'd think you'd get a little fan club pretty quickly if the smoke is awesome. I don't have any experience retailing though... maybe it just doesn't work.

As for the wookie.... I'm pretty sure I've heard a few people around here single it out as one of Bodhi's best males. There a big fans as well as critics of most of the males it seems. Lotsa different perspectives keep things interesting around here.
You have heard right. The market is really weird man. Bag appeal is the number one seller. Terps come second. Then flavor and smoothness. Then effects. It’s incredibly depressing but I get it. Everything is image based since it’s the most widespread method to share your newest offerings.

I’m growing bud for myself and other people. The goal here is to develop lines that have vigor, bag appeal, terps, and world class highs. I don’t intend to release anything that I personally would not enjoy smoking. If you ever see me growing some midsy ass gelato Karen crosses please do me a favor and smack me.

As for maximizing square footage, kinda. I’m not really trying to push 5lbs per light with commercial mids. But I would like to yield reasonably well with some great quality flower. Almost every pheno I see from Bodhi has the ability to yield. It’s the grower who has to dial in the correct environment to make that happen, so yield isn’t really a huge consideration when hunting. I am pretty confident that I can train and steer any halfway decent yielding pheno to at least 2lbs per 4x4. Smoke and terps come way before yield.

As for the testers/samples.. Maybe. The goal is to just hunt enough phenos to find the one that achieves that amazing high with bag appeal that sells itself. But if there was a pheno that hit all the points except bag appeal and had an insanely unique effect.. I would absolutely keep it and push it. I’m running an array of Sativas right now that I may have to do that with. With those, effects over everything. I want an electric, soaring effect with zero paranoia. I will put up with just about any shitty growth characteristic for an incredible Sativa.
 

NoMoreBottles

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I agree with everything you are saying so let’s get that out first haha. I’m going to get absolutely roasted for this, but end smoke quality is unfortunately not the deciding factor for my hunts. Well.. It is.. But many many things come before that.

I’m selecting for semi-commercial production. Think craft grow facility with unique flavors and genetics. Since I’m growing these strains in a tightly packed environment, I have to prioritize growth characteristics over smoke quality for the initial selections. Growth vigor, leaf to calyx ratio, Internodal spacing, bud consistency in shaded areas, pest resistance, how it takes standard nutrient regimens, etc. Those are all factors that determine initial selections. Without ideal growth characteristics the plants just wouldn’t be worth running for small scale production.

After initial selections things like smoke quality, bag appeal, terpenes, and potency are considered. The ideal plant from a hunt will be vigorous, great leaf:calyx ratio, good pest/mold resistance, tolerant of a wide range of substrate EC, good terps and bag appeal, decent yield, and fantastic smoke.

These selections are ones I will be growing for years, and will also be breeding stock. I can’t have any weak lanky weird plants because of this.

People buy with their eyes first, noses second, and return if the smoke quality and flavors are good. If a plant is ugly it just won’t sell itself in this market which is super unfortunate. Smoke quality won’t bring people back if they never buy the bud in the first place.

Im sure there is something really special in these wookie packs, but so far nothing has really hit all of the marks to justify keeping.
You may want to look into Old Soul
 

Nutbag Poster

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Oh yeah I wasn’t dismissing wookie. Was just saying I will have to do a lot of hunting to find a serious keeper from what I have seen so far. The Appy, HP, and Snow Lotus dads just seem to throw much more consistent phenos that hit all the points I look for. I think the hunt size will just have to be a lot bigger to get the same end result.

I’m sure there is some absolute fire in those packs. The terpenado really peaked my interest last time I ran it so I’m going to get a few more packs together to run. Divine intervention is another one. I also have banana spliff incoming. I wish space monkey was still available but I don’t see it anywhere.

This talk has pushed me towards doing a wookie hunt. Next seed hunt will be geared towards that.



You have heard right. The market is really weird man. Bag appeal is the number one seller. Terps come second. Then flavor and smoothness. Then effects. It’s incredibly depressing but I get it. Everything is image based since it’s the most widespread method to share your newest offerings.

I’m growing bud for myself and other people. The goal here is to develop lines that have vigor, bag appeal, terps, and world class highs. I don’t intend to release anything that I personally would not enjoy smoking. If you ever see me growing some midsy ass gelato Karen crosses please do me a favor and smack me.

As for maximizing square footage, kinda. I’m not really trying to push 5lbs per light with commercial mids. But I would like to yield reasonably well with some great quality flower. Almost every pheno I see from Bodhi has the ability to yield. It’s the grower who has to dial in the correct environment to make that happen, so yield isn’t really a huge consideration when hunting. I am pretty confident that I can train and steer any halfway decent yielding pheno to at least 2lbs per 4x4. Smoke and terps come way before yield.

As for the testers/samples.. Maybe. The goal is to just hunt enough phenos to find the one that achieves that amazing high with bag appeal that sells itself. But if there was a pheno that hit all the points except bag appeal and had an insanely unique effect.. I would absolutely keep it and push it. I’m running an array of Sativas right now that I may have to do that with. With those, effects over everything. I want an electric, soaring effect with zero paranoia. I will put up with just about any shitty growth characteristic for an incredible Sativa.
I really like what you're doing btw... I hope it didn't come across as a knock. The retail world definitely needs an upgrade on quality and high standards. Definitely agree on sativas... that was kinda what I was thinking about when proposing the little free samples. A lot of people don't know the joys of a great sativa. One bowl and many will be right back for more, I'd think.
 

colocowboy

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I really like what you're doing btw... I hope it didn't come across as a knock. The retail world definitely needs an upgrade on quality and high standards. Definitely agree on sativas... that was kinda what I was thinking about when proposing the little free samples. A lot of people don't know the joys of a great sativa. One bowl and many will be right back for more, I'd think.
For most of my life I have preferred sativas but as I get older I find that I don’t take them as well and I tend to get a little bit more anxiety than I used to. My last batch of sssdh was like drinking a whole pot of coffee, totally jittery! Even my dentist commented on grinding my teeth, I didn’t used to do that but I’ve noticed that I do it after smoking haze now.
 

SFnone

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For most of my life I have preferred sativas but as I get older I find that I don’t take them as well and I tend to get a little bit more anxiety than I used to. My last batch of sssdh was like drinking a whole pot of coffee, totally jittery! Even my dentist commented on grinding my teeth, I didn’t used to do that but I’ve noticed that I do it after smoking haze now.
is that super silver sour diesel haze?
 

Zipz55

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Add me to the list of people who haven’t gotten anything good out of the wookie dad. Not once have I ever heard of anyone consistently raving about a wookie cross. It doesn’t seem to pass on a terpene profile or growth pattern that is very desirable. I have a feeling that these banana spliffs may be the last wookie cross that I run.
Ive seen alot of praise for Space Monkey and Soul Mate

I have both but probably wont run them anytime soon
 

seedy character

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@AdvancedBuffalo GLG has Space Monkey. On sale too! hahahahaha. And really, the craft growing thing is where its at. Understand your constraints on selection for environment, but you are doing a service by actually breeding for posterity. Something the mass market needs far more of. imho

@freewanderer04 Will you please enthrall us with as much possible info on Sky Lotus? Don't see enough about this strain. Really curious how often blueberry flavors come out in phenos. Maybe a link if you've posted a report?
 

jp68

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Oh yeah I wasn’t dismissing wookie. Was just saying I will have to do a lot of hunting to find a serious keeper from what I have seen so far. The Appy, HP, and Snow Lotus dads just seem to throw much more consistent phenos that hit all the points I look for. I think the hunt size will just have to be a lot bigger to get the same end result.

I’m sure there is some absolute fire in those packs. The terpenado really peaked my interest last time I ran it so I’m going to get a few more packs together to run. Divine intervention is another one. I also have banana spliff incoming. I wish space monkey was still available but I don’t see it anywhere.

This talk has pushed me towards doing a wookie hunt. Next seed hunt will be geared towards that.



You have heard right. The market is really weird man. Bag appeal is the number one seller. Terps come second. Then flavor and smoothness. Then effects. It’s incredibly depressing but I get it. Everything is image based since it’s the most widespread method to share your newest offerings.

I’m growing bud for myself and other people. The goal here is to develop lines that have vigor, bag appeal, terps, and world class highs. I don’t intend to release anything that I personally would not enjoy smoking. If you ever see me growing some midsy ass gelato Karen crosses please do me a favor and smack me.

As for maximizing square footage, kinda. I’m not really trying to push 5lbs per light with commercial mids. But I would like to yield reasonably well with some great quality flower. Almost every pheno I see from Bodhi has the ability to yield. It’s the grower who has to dial in the correct environment to make that happen, so yield isn’t really a huge consideration when hunting. I am pretty confident that I can train and steer any halfway decent yielding pheno to at least 2lbs per 4x4. Smoke and terps come way before yield.

As for the testers/samples.. Maybe. The goal is to just hunt enough phenos to find the one that achieves that amazing high with bag appeal that sells itself. But if there was a pheno that hit all the points except bag appeal and had an insanely unique effect.. I would absolutely keep it and push it. I’m running an array of Sativas right now that I may have to do that with. With those, effects over everything. I want an electric, soaring effect with zero paranoia. I will put up with just about any shitty growth characteristic for an incredible Sativa.
Nigerian space probe is an amazing sativa.Im guessing all the probes are exceptional so id look there
 

mawasmada

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Non-Bodhi but I thought you guys might be interested. Landrace and heirloom varieties. Anyone ever ran their gear? Interesting...

I'm currently waiting to find out. I ordered a pack from them nearly 6 weeks ago. I had good communication with them until Sept. 5.
They were running about 2 weeks behind on shipping, as they were in process of moving. I don't know if fires are chasing them out or what. Small first run order in case I get screwed. We'll see.
 

Boosky

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@AdvancedBuffalo GLG has Space Monkey. On sale too! hahahahaha. And really, the craft growing thing is where its at. Understand your constraints on selection for environment, but you are doing a service by actually breeding for posterity. Something the mass market needs far more of. imho

@freewanderer04 Will you please enthrall us with as much possible info on Sky Lotus? Don't see enough about this strain. Really curious how often blueberry flavors come out in phenos. Maybe a link if you've posted a report?
Don’t recall any blueberry in mine but they were potent. I too was looking for some blueberry but I only had three total females to look at. Two were very potent but I am looking for a “blueberry” Skywalker OG Pheno for sure. The ones I got were more OG leaning if I remember right. Maybe I’ll F2 the pack I have left for a better hunt. I have so many other ones I want to F2, so little time.
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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I wish I had the time to respond to everyone here because I really like where this discussion is at. I will pick up more wookie and will give a big hunt a shot. I just finished pulling down a few more plants and snapped photos of the notable ones.

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This is another pheno of Peach Hashplant. Very hashy, not very peachy. Keeping all of these cuts around until a solid month into cure to make my final decision on which one to keep. They are all absolutely fantastic in terms of growth, bud structure, and resin. It’s basically impossible to not have bag appeal with these.

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This is Reallybigjesusfreak’s Black Light Fantasy x Black Lime Reserve. The BLF really passes along the purps, and this one smells of citrus with berry undertones. She shifted more towards berries as she finished. This is one of 8 phenos and they are all great. That PU brings great structure. No poop in any of these yet!

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Electric Cowboy pheno 4. Basically the only notable pheno of this cross that didnt herm out. Luckily this one has the best growth structure and the bud didn’t seem to end. The lowers were just as dense as the tops. If this girls effects are comparable to the momma Larry OG, it will be something special.

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Another photo of the EC 4. It’s just too damn photogenic. Let’s hope she takes re veg because I don’t have a cut, if I recall correctly.

Lots more to come out tomorrow. Cherry Sativa x SSDD looks very promising. And there is a decent Clusterfunk I have been excited about.
 
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