luv2grow
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Yeah this year has been a trip. So cal is on standby while the North got the green light a month early. Is what it is my man
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kmog33
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Yeah, been a weird year, getting nice now though.
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luv2grow
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got a tarp laying around? have fun buddy haha...... stupid frost!!!Speaking of plants being outdoors b4 May. I'm bitting my nails tonight. Most if not all mine aren't but maybe 4"tall @ most, and I now have a frost warning. I just may be done before I even started.
U frost !!
Tangerine_
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Which is why I referenced not only weather but the solstice as well. Is that not relevant to "photoperiod lighting"?@kmog33 Nice attempt to pivot from the original issue: photoperiod. You guys, from CA, told dude that, effectively, he did wrong by planting in April, and that is why he experienced pre-mature onset of flowering.
From CA, you've told us what can and can't be done in our region. I presented evidence of the breeder near the same parallel planting at/before time in question.
If I were him, I'd be feeling clearly vindicated, as one can see that the breeder of aforementioned seeds also plants around same timeframe around the same latitude.
@Tangerine_ Plant hardiness zones take into account average winter lows, since we are not concerned with wintertime w/ outdoor crops, this really isn't our best guide.Wh
@luv2grow The issue at hand is adequate photoperiod lighting during vegetative seedling phase at a given time near specific latitude. I knew it to be adequate, here is evidence Bodhi believes it to be adequate as well
Smasher420
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Speaking of plants being outdoors b4 May. I'm bitting my nails tonight. Most if not all mine aren't but maybe 4"tall @ most, and I now have a frost warning. I just may be done before I even started. I hear ya brother. Glad I only put out half last week! But it was all my big ones! Supposed to get down to 35 tonight I hear. Fuckkk
luv2grow
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Glg order came in today as well. I can't speak highly enough of Jeff and his crew. He threw in three free packs.Completely unnecessary but hey I enjoy the customer service!!!! I thank all of you who recommend GLG to me. That shall be my one stop shop going forward.
luv2grow
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yeah was looking at em. but with the move I haven't been keeping up with all the nice crosses or genetics coming around. Got some research ahead and about 20 new strains to grow out. in a 2 plant designed scrog room that is more than a cu^5 hair from done haha. I think I'm good for the year. Maybe since the room is still a skeleton I should convert to a Sog/Chuck chamber. Way easier to trim 
Maybe since the room is still a skeleton I should convert to a Sog/Chuck chamber. Way easier to trim
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kmog33
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Lol, no bueno. Weed is a pretty sturdy plant but ive definitely had stunted plants throwing stuff out too early before. Cold can be bad.Speaking of plants being outdoors b4 May. I'm bitting my nails tonight. Most if not all mine aren't but maybe 4"tall @ most, and I now have a frost warning. I just may be done before I even started.
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ForRealz
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ForRealz
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Ahhh yes, back to the issue at hand! Length of day... You see, that is something that changes very, very minimally every year. (So I'm in agreement with you @Tangerine_ , looking to sunrise/sunset tables as one major guide, this was the crux of kmogg 's and I previous argument).
As you can see, at the earliest date, April 1 there is 12.5 hours of daylight. Approximately 2 minutes are added each day, so that by April 30 there is nearly 14 hours. You can also see NorCal follows same trend.
Bodhi and myself have found this to be enough daylight to plant seeds in April .
Serva
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Sorry, but whats "chuck"?yeah was looking at em. but with the move I haven't been keeping up with all the nice crosses or genetics coming around. Got some research ahead and about 20 new strains to grow out. in a 2 plant designed scrog room that is more than a cu^5 hair from done haha. I think I'm good for the year.
kmog33
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We can keep doing this, still not looking good for anyone in la or ky that planted first week in April.
Also, nice choice of cities, Kentucky ranges from 34-36.8ish I think. So from where I am to the lowest part of norcal
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kmog33
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40 degrees consitant at night and it's not like last month was better, lol... Most likely, if you had seedlings in Kentucky this week and didn't take precautions, they're dead. Next week starting to warm up over in KY tho.
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kmog33
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See above post
Looks like norcal is getting some rain and cold this week too, I wonder how many stunned seedling are on that farm from being planted last month. .
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kmog33
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Apparently temperature and weather do not affect planting times at all, only the length of day. Really surprising parts of Alaska and Norway don't veg out like 40 foot monsters over the summer when they have 20 hour days, oh wait, because is get sub zero in a couple of weeks if it isn't cold AF all summer anyway.
The only factor for when you can plant outside is day length. That's what I've learned from this yearlong debacle lol.
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ForRealz
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We can keep doing this, still not looking good for anyone in la or ky that planted first week in April.
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Hey check this, zero frost in all of April, and these temperature ranges coupled with precipitation probably explain why it was a bumper year for morels (season has come And gone already). Hummingbirds have arrived weeks ago also, you know, they migrate and return when there are flowers and insects to sustain themselves. Doubt they'd do that if it were ininhospitable to seedlings, as you presuppose.
ForRealz
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I've learned you can not admit to being wrong in regards to day length / photoperiod / seedlings / specific regions so you put words in my mouth and try to shift the focus to temperature in hopes that you can "win" there.
However, from the first time I addressed this issue I spoke of frost considerations, which is a factor of temperature, so I've included that factor FROM THE BEGINNING.
Further, you'll see that your temperature argument (even for this year) fails when the data FOR THE GIVEN REGION (Hint: NOT fucking LA) is analyzed.