White_Devil_Cannabis
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Do you add microbes?
When and what type/brand?
When and what type/brand?
Bottled / Bagged / Packaged Microbes - Do You Use?
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White_Devil_Cannabis
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Tried Recharge didnt find it of any value to my grow.
Johiem
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Did you already have microbes working for you when you tried? If your grow is in tune I can see it not having much of an effect, but for those of us that could use a bit of a handicap, I feel it helps. I've had it save a DWC plant from active root rot. Again this was a rescue situation.
White_Devil_Cannabis
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I used it when things were off and it didnt help. May work better soilless.
White_Devil_Cannabis
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I forget, it's all in a mix I amend into my soil.
Applefootball12
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Hey do you know if this indicates healthy microbe population and if it’s benefiting the plant
Rurumo
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I love Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide, which is just bacillus amyloliquefaciens. Last year I planted 70 pepper seedlings outside right before it rained for almost 2 weeks straight, and they got root rot and a bacterial leaf spot disease, lost all of their leaves and I thought they were done for. I drenched the entire bed with the Southern ag, sprayed all the little leafless stems, and amazingly enough they came back. I kept spraying once per week and the leaves regrew healthy and I maybe lost 5 plants total, so I know it works. If you research these PGPRs (plant growth promoting rhizobacteria) they do an incredible amount of things for plants-create enzymes, hormones, solubilize phosphate and micronutrients, fix nitrogen, even create antibiotics, and tons of secondary metabolites that we are only beginning to understand.
The question is, is the product you are looking at even active at all, does it have the right species, is it concentrated enough, etc? I used to brew up compost tea, but lately I just stick to mycorrhizae (dynomyco-900 propagule count), and one of several bacterial inoculants that have worked in the past. It's good to compare products and look for the products with the highest CFUs. You'll find most of them are so watered down they probably don't do anything. The Southern Ag product is great for foliars and rooting clones.
The question is, is the product you are looking at even active at all, does it have the right species, is it concentrated enough, etc? I used to brew up compost tea, but lately I just stick to mycorrhizae (dynomyco-900 propagule count), and one of several bacterial inoculants that have worked in the past. It's good to compare products and look for the products with the highest CFUs. You'll find most of them are so watered down they probably don't do anything. The Southern Ag product is great for foliars and rooting clones.
bam0813
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Mushrooms can mean healthy soil
Mushrooms are the reproductive structure of fungi and can indicate healthy soil.
bam0813
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youraveragehorticulturist
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When I cut clones in use Azos (nitrogen fixing bacteria) by XTreme gardening to treat the plugs/pellets the cuttings will go into. This seems to help the clones stay green and healthy, so I Believe that it works like it's supposed to.
When was out of compost and the store was out of EWC, I tried some Terp Tea Microbe Charge from Roots Organics. I usually like to use some Compost/EWC mid flower and maybe late flower to keep the soil life kicking. Plants seem to yellow off and dry out earlier without doing this, so I Believe it works. When I brewed up the Microbe Charge it got super foamy and my plants seemed to respond the way I wanted, by hanging on a couple more weeks.
I don't have a microscope or clinical trials to verify the observations, but Green, Healthy Leaves convince me.
When was out of compost and the store was out of EWC, I tried some Terp Tea Microbe Charge from Roots Organics. I usually like to use some Compost/EWC mid flower and maybe late flower to keep the soil life kicking. Plants seem to yellow off and dry out earlier without doing this, so I Believe it works. When I brewed up the Microbe Charge it got super foamy and my plants seemed to respond the way I wanted, by hanging on a couple more weeks.
I don't have a microscope or clinical trials to verify the observations, but Green, Healthy Leaves convince me.
Applefootball12
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So doI want to recycle the pot material after chop or do shall I just throw it on the compost pileMushrooms can mean healthy soil
Mushrooms are the reproductive structure of fungi and can indicate healthy soil.extension.oregonstate.edu
xtsho
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I just make JMS for microbes.
"JMS is an anaerobic solution using leaf mold, as the inoculate, in the absence of air. This makes the process extremely cost effective because it does not require a bunch of equipment and can be done anywhere. All you will need is a container, water, potatoes, seawater or sea salt, a few other things we will discuss later and a few days."
"Some people ask, ‘what about the bad microbes or all the anaerobic microbes,’ JADAM doesn't believe in a dualistic approach like most modern approaches, where there is a line dividing good and bad. JADAM believes microbes are all workers and they work together. Instead of narrowing the pool of microbes we can expand them and incorporate all, because different microbes may have an impact on different nutrients that are available. “Good and Bad,” is something we have created, and in nature microbes live in balance, all the microbes we consider bad are there and yet, they do not cause us problems until things become imbalanced. Even to much “good,” can cause problems when not in balance."
http://www.mindfullyrooted.org/blog/jadam-microbial-solution#/
"JMS is an anaerobic solution using leaf mold, as the inoculate, in the absence of air. This makes the process extremely cost effective because it does not require a bunch of equipment and can be done anywhere. All you will need is a container, water, potatoes, seawater or sea salt, a few other things we will discuss later and a few days."
"Some people ask, ‘what about the bad microbes or all the anaerobic microbes,’ JADAM doesn't believe in a dualistic approach like most modern approaches, where there is a line dividing good and bad. JADAM believes microbes are all workers and they work together. Instead of narrowing the pool of microbes we can expand them and incorporate all, because different microbes may have an impact on different nutrients that are available. “Good and Bad,” is something we have created, and in nature microbes live in balance, all the microbes we consider bad are there and yet, they do not cause us problems until things become imbalanced. Even to much “good,” can cause problems when not in balance."
http://www.mindfullyrooted.org/blog/jadam-microbial-solution#/
crimsonecho
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nothing that grows in your healthy soil is bad for your plants and the best indicator if somethings healthy or not is your plants overall health but i wanna point out one thing here, i try to clean up any plant material that sits on top of my soil as these collect microbes that break down plant material and i don’t like to have that around flowering plants because with wind the spores and whatnot can be carried into your buds and when buds mature a bit it provides the perfect moist environment for those spores to grow into some fungal problems. thats why i either bury them or throw it into my worm bin and worms love that stuff.
Applefootball12
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Yes I agree totally at this stage the plant dose not seem to be healthy it’s getting by but by no means healthy without boring you it’s bein a series of unfortunate events on my first outdoor grow and many lessons have quickly bein learned I have done some reading and that’s all great but there’s nothing like getting your hands dirty lol cheers for the reply the two in pots were a issue
Applefootball12
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I’m not going with pots next time gonna put all 5 in the ground and make a Roman sail shade out of clear plastic for the rain