Bowman Supreme Court case

Anyone been following this? There is such a void of discussion concerning GMO's publicly and the discussion that is happening is from a pretty uninformed perspective. I know some of you out there understand the mechanics of the genetic process, so we have a great opportunity to discuss what's already happening around the world.
Opinions?

For instance, pollen from an GMO plant finds it's way around the world. These genes are encoded with a marker, so we can identify them no matter what they find their way into. Genetic transfer is life's purpose, it's method. So companies like Monsanto get paid when their "technology" finds its' way into non-GMO crops. Seems like an insidious plan to get royalties from anyone who is caught with plants with genetic markers.
This is why this is a tricky subject. Just thought some of you might want to talk.

was boman the guy in Iowa that bought some trash from the mill to plant his backup second crop. I heard he lost to monsanto, sick shit. I run an organic produce farm and I hope they get that company under control. I cannot have that crap near my fields.

Scary times indeed. Companies patenting the food supply such horseshit. There is a documentary on netflix about this.

I agree. I think you could patent a process for molecular cloning but specific gene sequences should not be patentable. The most they should be able to hope for is naming their construct, imo. In theory, any gene sequence could naturally occur through mutation and then it would be difficult to tell which one is the original patented gene, but I think things like sequence context could be used to probably identify the patented gene. Though, it would be highly improbable that a Monsanto gene suddenly cropped up into existence through random mutation in a corn plant... Furthermore, lateral gene transfer occurs naturally in nature, so if my plants get a monsanto gene for bug resistance, fuck them for making a product that likes to be a form of freeware. That's like some guy making an artificial rainstorm during a drought and charging me for water when his clouds blow over my field.

I think the patent should not apply to the product produced by the patent. you pay for the seed then once you plant it grow it and harvest it, it is a compleatly diferent product. if you try to resell that product as the original patent then we have a problem. If I am hauling grain to the mill and some blows off the truck and it happens to rain then the seed germinates, am I going to be charged with something.... I shake my penis at those bastards

an even scarier area is human gene patenting.

i think i love tusseltussel and am wondering where he has been all this time.

I've been here since 07 I just only contribute when I have something to contribute unlike some on this site. Thank you, I feel your love

UncleBuck said:

i think i love tusseltussel and am wondering where he has been all this time.

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Lol I shake my penis at them lol
Crazy situation these farmers are in, having to choose between yield and risk... Low prices, high demands..
Not to mention the reality that this type if technology does indeed escape Monsanto's control! It's been documented.
Personally, I think they exploit the free roaming nature of genetic information, especially with wind pollinated plants like corn.
Eventually, they will get theirs, I hope..

Apomixis said:

Lol I shake my penis at them lol
Crazy situation these farmers are in, having to choose between yield and risk... Low prices, high demands..
Not to mention the reality that this type if technology does indeed escape Monsanto's control! It's been documented.
Personally, I think they exploit the free roaming nature of genetic information, especially with wind pollinated plants like corn.
Eventually, they will get theirs, I hope..

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imagine if we all actually gave a fuck

imagine if we just boycotted soy and corn products for 30 days

i read a statistic once that said that 70 plus percent of items in a grocery store contain corn
throw in soy and you're looking at over 90 fucking percent of items in a store who already only has a 3-8 percent markup to begin with
in a municipal region of 10.000 people or less, it would'nt take much organization to literally shut them (the grocers) out of business
gas stations have a MUCH higher profit margin than grocers and it's been hypothesized that they could be shut down with a 2-5 DAY boycott

it would not take very many people carrying very many torches to fix this right up

It is completely fucked that people/ gigantic awful corporate entities (who thanks to citizens united are in circumstances legally implied to be people) are able to own the very idea of specific forms of life. And then there is the patenting of cancer genes and such: researcher "wow look at this genetic code that exists naturally and in many people this could BLANK to benefit humanity" boss: "mine, mine, asdklfjasljfoisjfj, fuck nature, money, mine!!!111!lL" an over simplification but still fuck those guys.

The most fucked up part about all this is what they are now doing to Alfalfa. Corn was one thing, at least its an annual.

But ROUND UP READY ALFALFA? WTF!!!!!?

It is a known fact that Alfalfa pollen travels miles, and now some farmer who chooses NOT to grow this bullshit will be likely to face contamination from fields miles away, on a plant the grows naturally and lives upwards of 10+ years...

And the fact the Alfalfa is a naturalized plant, that grows along roadsides and fallow fields, brings up a WHOLE list of issues...

Who will they sue when GMO Alfalfa grows along the side of the road?

im pro patent and copyright but this shit is sickening. Im also antimonsanto and big pharma. But im not sure what to do about it without siding with the anonymous anti patents everybody owns everything douchebaggery. Im about as Randian as they come but there are evil corporations and monsanto is one of them.