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delvite

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im reading up on h2o2 atm m8, heres what im on to........................................................................











Hydrogen Peroxide and Horticulture


Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) is a clear sharp smelling substance very similar in appearance to water (H2O). Like water it is made up of Hydrogen and Oxygen, however H2O2 has an extra Oxygen atom in an unstable arrangement. It is this extra atom that gives H2O2 its useful properties. H2O2 has been used for many purposes including cleaning, bleaching, sterilizing, rocket fuel, animal feed treatment and in addition many miraculous claims about its health benefits have been made. This article isn't about any of these; instead it will concentrate on horticultural applications. H2O2 is of great use for both hydroponics and dirt/soilless gardening.


1. What Does Hydrogen Peroxide do?
H2O2 is an unstable molecule, when it breaks down a single oxygen atom and a molecule of water is released. This oxygen atom is extremely reactive and will attach itself to either another O- atom forming a stable Oxygen molecule or attack a nearby organic molecule. Both the stable and O- forms will increase the level of dissolved oxygen. This is the method by which H2O2 is beneficial. Pretreating the water supply with H2O2 will drive out the Chlorine many cities use to sterilize it. This will also degrade any pesticides or herbicides that might be present as well as any other organic matter. Well water can be high in methane and organic sulfates, both of which H2O2 will remove. Many disease causing organisms and spores are killed by Oxygen, the free Oxygen H2O2 releases is extremely effective at this. H2O2 will help eliminate existing infections and will help prevent future ones. It is also useful for suppressing algae growth. The free Oxygen atom will destroy dead organic material (i.e, leaves roots) in the system preventing them from rotting and spreading diseases.


2.Over Watering
Roots require Oxygen to breathe and low levels are the main cause of almost all root diseases. Both soil and hydroponic plants often fall prey to the same syndrome although it is rarely recognized as what it really is. Hydroponic crops often fail due to "root rot" and soil crops succumb to "over watering." The real cause of both these problems is a shortage of Oxygen at the root zone. In a soil system the soil consists of particles, a film of water on the particles and air spaces between the particles. When too much water is put into the soil the air spaces fill with liquid. The roots will quickly use up what Oxygen is dissolved in the water, if they haven't drunk enough of the liquid to allow air back in to the soil spaces they will stop working. In this situation roots will start dying within twenty-four hours. As the roots die the plants ability to drink water and nutrients will decrease, this will cause symptoms of nutrient deficiencies (mostly pale, slow, weak growth), and strangely they will start to wilt like they don't have enough water. It is easy to make a fatal mistake at this point and add more water.


In a Hydroponic system the cause is a more direct simple lack of oxygen in the solution, this may be from inadequate circulation and/or aeration. High reservoir temperatures also interfere with Oxygen's ability to dissolve in the water. Temperatures above 70F (20C) will eventually cause problems, 62F-65F (16C-18C) is recommended. The same symptoms will appear as with soil plants but you can also check the roots. Healthy roots should be mostly white with maybe a slight yellowish tan tinge. If they are a brownish colour with dead tips or they easily pull away there is at least the beginnings of a serious problem. An organic dirtlike rotting smell means there is already a very good chance it is too late. As roots die and rot they eat Oxygen out of the water, as Oxygen levels are even further depleted more roots die, a viscius circle may be well under way. Reduced Oxygen levels and high temperatures both encourage anaerobic bacteria and fungi. The plants may still be saved but you will have to work fast.


3. How Hydrogen Peroxide prevents root rot/overwatering.
When plants are watered with H2O2 it will break down and release Oxygen into the area around the roots. This helps stop the Oxygen from being depleted in the water filled air spaces until air can get back into them. High Oxygen levels at the roots will encourage rapid healthy root growth. In a Hydroponic system H2O2 will disperse through out the system and raise Oxygen levels as it breaks down. Strong white healthy roots with lots of fuzzy new growth will be visible. This fuzzy growth has massive surface area allowing for rapid absorption of the huge amounts of water and nutrients needed for rapid top growth. A healthy plant starts with a healthy root system.


4. How to use it.
H2O2 comes in several different strengths 3%, 5%, 8% and 35%, also sold as food grade Hydrogen Peroxide. The most economical is 35% which we recommend be diluted to three percent before using, as at this high concentration it can cause damage to skin and clothing. When working with food grade H2O2 it is very important that you clean up any spills or splashes immediately, it will damage almost anything very quickly. This is extra important with skin and clothing. Skin will be temporarily bleached pure white if not washed cleaned. Gloves are strongly recommended when working with any strong chemical.


Food grade H2O2 can be diluted to three percent by mixing it one part to eleven parts water (preferably distilled). The storage container should be opaque to prevent light from getting in and it must be able to hold some pressure. If three-liter pop bottles are available in your area they are ideal for mixing and storing H2O2. There are twelve quarter liters (250ml) in three liters, if you put in one quarter liter H2O2 and eleven quarter liters (250ml) water in the bottle it will full of three percent H2O2 and the bottle can hold the pressure that the H2O2 will generate. Three percent Hydrogen Peroxide may be added at up to three ml's per liter (2 1\2 tsp. Per gallon), but it is recommended that you start at a lower concentration and increase to full strength over a few weeks. Use every watering even on fresh cuttings. For hydroponics use every reservoir change and replace twenty-five percent (one quarter) every day. Example: In a 100L reservoir you would add three hundred ml's (3%) H2O2 when changing the nutrient. You would then add seventy-five ml's more every day.


5. Where to get it.
35% food grade: called food grade because it has no toxic impurities
Of course your local hydroponics retailer, whom you can locate over the web at www.hydromall.com. Direct order off the web (there may be shipping restrictions on high strength peroxides). H2O2 is used to bleach hair so the local hairdresser may have a source. The local feed supplier may have it in small towns. Prices range from fifteen dollars per quarter liter to eighty dollars a gallon. One gallon will treat up to fifty thousand liters of water.


3%5%, 8%
Can be found at most drugstores or pharmacies, prices start at a less than a dollar for a one hundred-ml bottle that will treat one hundred liters.


6. What to do if you already have root rot.


In Dirt:
Use peroxided water with anti-fungicide (benomyl) and a high Phosphate fertilizer (9-45-15, 10-52-10, 0-60-0) for root growth. Root booster (5-15-5) or any other product with rooting hormone dissolved in it is helpful in regrowing roots and is strongly recommended. If a plant is wilty adding Nutri-Boost may save it. Water heavily until liquid pours out the bottom of the pot. This sound like bad idea, but it flushes out stagnant dead water and replaces it with fresh highly oxygenated water. Don't let plants sit in trays full of water, the soil will absorb this water and stay too wet. Don't water again until the pot feels light and the top inch or two of the soil are dry.


In Hydro:
Change your nutrients. Add H2O2 to the system. This will add oxygen and chemically eat dead roots. If roots are badly rotted and can be pulled away by hand you should pull them off. They are already dead and will only rot, causing further problems. Add a fungicide to kill any fungus that is probably present in the rotted tissue to prevent it from spreading. Root booster will speed recovery. If plants are wilty Nutri-Boost may help save them. Increase aeration of the water, get an airpump and air stones, or more of them, for the reservoir. An air stone under every plant is usually very effective, but will require a larger air pump. Models that will do from forty to four hundred stones are available. Decrease the reservoir temperature, oxygen dissolves better in cold water and disease causing organisms reproduce slower as well. A good temperate range is 62F to 65F; anything above 70F will eventually cause a problem. It is also a good idea to remove any wilty plants from the system and put them on a separate reservoir so they don't infect plants that are still healthy.


Summary
The key to big productive plants is a big healthy root system and Hydrogen Peroxide is a great way to keep your roots healthy. It is a must to ensure the biggest best crops possible and to increase the chances of your plants thriving to harvest. Peroxide users will rarely lose plants or crops to root disease and will harvest larger and more consistent crops.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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MAN I'VE BEEN FINDING THE SAME FELLA, THRIPS BUILD RESISTANCE TO THE STUFF. I'M THINKING of basically moving everything into my flower tent and gassing them with the ozone generator. but that's no guarantee. i'm thinking a fogger or bomb but you'll need to get one sent from the us. the thrips are fucking living in the airholes in my airpots. it's doing my nut. now my lass is griefing me the fuckers are migrating to the house plants now :(
 

scotia1982

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The gnats are livin in ma airpot holes a well. Goin to dilute 5ml of 17.5% h2o2 with 10 ltrs and add in ma nutes run it through n c wot happens will keep u posted peeps!!
 

DST

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My Uncle is Iranian, he had to leave the country after the Ayatollah came in and basically booted out the Shah of Iran (by killing him of course), along with his parents who where cousins to the Persian Royal family (and yes, like our Royals, they were paid for being Royal blooded.) After decades he has just got the family home back in Iran and I believe spends a bit of time there. Bottom line, Iran is just a place run by a bunch of fukwits, just like Germany was a place run by a bunch of fukwits in the 30's/40's. The actual people of the country are just normal like you and I. (well most of us, may be not Jig, lmfao). To turn your back on these people, and to ignore the leaders who repress them, I think would be silly. So we should really try and keep abreast of what is happening in our every day growing smaller world.
Funny thing, the Ayatollah actually caused the divorce of my parents, lol. (according to my Mum - when really it was caused by my Old man not being able to keep his cock in his pants). We were going to live in Iran just as the Ayatollah came into power. My old man subsequently left my old dear not long after that. Probably a close shave really.....
 

Don Gin and Ton

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fuckin ell lad, talk about dodging a bullet. your accent woulda been mental lmfao. some tale that like haha ayatollah broke our marriage lol i'm sorry i shouldn't laugh but christ.

me n jig been conversing privately about this. think i upset him. i've been doing that to a lot of people lately. skinny me and stoner me don;t really get on too well it seems.
 

DST

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Aye, it's a funny one, ma Maws full of them, haha. And Jig may be a skinny wee runt, but he seems thick skinned enough to me not to get upset:) Group hug! lol.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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Think its just extra stresses on plates or sandy mangina's. Going to have to take the #3 dog and smelly fingaz tomorrow. Been neglecting the garden a bit this month.

Loads to do, potting on and up. Clones which hasn't gone well of late . Might give Rockwool a go for a few.

Need a bunch for me n others time to drastically reduce strain count. Pics laters peeps.
 

DST

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sandy manginas, lol.....Morning geez. FFS Riu keeps going on the spazz for me this morning.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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i'm a bit fuzzy this morgen, been having broken sleep with funny dreams, last nights was a cracker but try as i like i can't remember it. something about luchadore in hotel or something....this sobriety thing is fucked up. with not kipping well i had a sleeper n i woke up anyway with the dream about 4 been fuzzy since.
 

DST

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Aye, Fuzzy Fridays, had a nice Rioja Campa Viejo Reserva 2007 last night.......canny be arsed today.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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Likewise but work will have to be done. Then I'm going beast the cross drainer. Been racking numbers like pacman highscores lately. averaging 4:30 a click and ten at a time. Its my Shangri la. I'm proper euphoric after lol
 

DST

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I am literally skipping training today, hoho. Backs been playing up so time to give it a rest. Done 4 days training this week anyway so not too fussed about missing a Friday. My Mum reminded me last night that I, "wissnae young anymore", cheers Maw, now run along to a museum or go shopping now, lol!
 

Don Gin and Ton

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hahaha typical eh, if it's not one thing it's ya mother! reminds me i need to speak to mine. we don't speak or see each other enough. it's getting to that point where i'm thinking i might not see them much longer. i know i'm being daft but i don't want to look back and think fuck i've missed all those opportunities.
 

Hemlock

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hahaha typical eh, if it's not one thing it's ya mother! reminds me i need to speak to mine. we don't speak or see each other enough. it's getting to that point where i'm thinking i might not see them much longer. i know i'm being daft but i don't want to look back and think fuck i've missed all those opportunities.
Youre a good man. thats how you should be! Proud to call you my friend!


this fukin thing in cypress is about like the mafia coming to Las Vegas and telling all the casinos. If you don't pay us 10% of all your winnings we'll burn it to the ground.
Telling ya lads the world catching on fire.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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fridaaaaay:

the abortive air layering attempt :shock: i almost feel sorry for the poor psycho momma. the 2nd is critical jack left and diuppy right, 3rd is 3 crappy psycho clones :( been shoddy at cloning yet
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2 toke V
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Cheese VV
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Next smelly fingerez
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Sweet n Sour VV

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The smelly fingerez is done. i'd say.

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The sour leaning dog isn't quite there yet at 9 todayVV

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The dog#3, is done.
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This one cola's a little behind the rest
 

Don Gin and Ton

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Youre a good man. thats how you should be! Proud to call you my friend!
this fukin thing in cypress is about like the mafia coming to Las Vegas and telling all the casinos. If you don't pay us 10% of all your winnings we'll burn it to the ground.
Telling ya lads the world catching on fire.
likewise hem. was worth the hurricane and disneyworld/ half way round the world trip to meet you too fella. highlight of the trip for sure. just wish we could have had a full day or two to play with.

Cyprus is just another in a long line. not like they taxed the rich either the every man got shafted big time. they are the next greece waiting to happen.
I had been having cloning problems recently and I finally replaced my 4 year old bottle of rooting powder. Problem solved.

:peace:
cof
i've got powder and clonex. any idea what's best with rockwool? i might do a mix n see. i won't b flipping the dog mother though just in case that's a special bitch;)
 
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