Breeding plants

I am still not sold on selfing having a higher chance of herms, there is no Y chromosome in there.
Pretty much every stabilized strain has been crossed with itself at some point.

If you want a plant to self, you will have to let it go much longer than if you were picking for buds.

Check my sig for a link to an auto seed crop, the only one I have documented.

Trousers said:

I am still not sold on selfing having a higher chance of herms, there is no Y chromosome in there.
Pretty much every stabilized strain has been crossed with itself at some point.

If you want a plant to self, you will have to let it go much longer than if you were picking for buds.

Check my sig for a link to an auto seed crop, the only one I have documented.

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You are right there is no evidence I have found that indicates selfing produces a higher percentage of hermis, I have selfed a few times and have never harvested seeds so I have no first-hand experience.

regards,

Great read Trousers!!! So not sure if I missed it but did you ever actually self polinate the same plant re: an auto? And perhaps you would know will the the new plant show any hidden phenos (doubt it, as it really should be the exact copy)?

Ok, you are on to something, but keep in mind...

A good feminized seed is made from mothers that have gone through serious stress tests to ensure it wont hermie.
After they know they have a very solid mother that isnt prone to hermie, even with serious stress, then they will use it to make feminized seeds.

If your clone hermied due to stress, its probably a weak ass little bitch of a mother that will have progeny that will be quick to hermie under any type of stress.

Your seeds will be viable, BUT, you will have to baby the living hell out of them to keep them from hermie.

waterdawg said:

Great read Trousers!!! So not sure if I missed it but did you ever actually self polinate the same plant re: an auto? And perhaps you would know will the the new plant show any hidden phenos (doubt it, as it really should be the exact copy)?

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It will have phenos. It is not a clone.
Pollen, even selfed, will carry traits from parents/grandparents/greatgrandparents and they can jump up at any point, in any generation.

I have read quite a bit about this but nothing really scientific I'm sure (mostly HT & Skunk) and all articles referred to the baby as genetically the same as the self polinated parent, that is why I asked as i may give this a try, I am not a big fan of clones as they seem less robust but also hate spending money and get a shit load of crap pheno's. And yes it obvious that shitty moms have shitty kids, watch the news......lol.

Oh and by the look of Trouser, He doesn't have a whole lotta time to be growing out a bunch of generations to check stability....lol. BTW I hope everyone is way down wind of my shit, keep your filthy pollen away from my girls!!! kiss-ass

waterdawg said:

I have read quite a bit about this but nothing really scientific I'm sure (mostly HT & Skunk) and all articles referred to the baby as genetically the same as the self polinated parent, that is why I asked as i may give this a try, I am not a big fan of clones as they seem less robust but also hate spending money and get a shit load of crap pheno's. And yes it obvious that shitty moms have shitty kids, watch the news......lol.

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Yeah, I can say from experience that selfed seeds can have phenos. I personally dont think as many variations as non-selfed seeds but they do have phenos.

I may give it a try just before shut down when hot weather arrives but I have buds to grow, times a'wastin!!