Nice, thinking about getting those too. Did you do 4k or 5k?I'm running the EB Gen3 Thrive (98CRI) which run at 960ma. 6 strips connected to a 240w driver (strictly for veg).
Nice, thinking about getting those too. Did you do 4k or 5k?I'm running the EB Gen3 Thrive (98CRI) which run at 960ma. 6 strips connected to a 240w driver (strictly for veg).
That's what I'm wondering, maybe it is just cheap marketing on their part.Just following logic no point in paying for the HO strips with the same number of diodes when you can just run a slim harder.
I offered to send 3500k Gen 3. Strip for testing and even pay for it. But he just referred me to the 90CRI 2700K test. I'd kill for some IES files of these strips so I can map out my room in dialux because I have some layout ideas I'd like to test without drilling and hanging lights 1000 times. .My best bet is that they use high output double die chips, 2 in 1 with double nominal current. And that @ 1400mA nominal is not compatible with no heat sinks. My best bet is that someone made a misstake in the datasheet and whoever youve been in touch with at blux is just quoting the datasheet, even though its not right. I dont know any 2 foot plastic strip that can take 28w output without trouble.
These might be interesting for using like a standard eb currents (700mA) but hopefully more efficient. I had a buddy do tests on the standard gen3s if anyone wanna get these tested im sure i could get it arranged but it would mean sending the strips to Australia (not a good idea for 4 footers
I think the double die is quite common. Im pretty sure that the Cree 2835 HE is a double die and it has max amp 480mA : double the normal crees midpowers. I know alot of olld blurple chips where marketed as double die. Heck if they can get in 8 coils in a 5050 chip they should be able to squeeze in 2 in a midpower. Will and vaseline, lol.wanna know which diode they use there too.
i would wonder how thex squeeze 2 led dies in a case they usualy use for a single die, 2835?
they both use the same generic casing, what they can do is maybe use another lil higher grade bin, if.
having troubbles seeing big differences to the regular eb3, what i dont get?
nominal current is 700 and 1400mA, like with the regular ones and the lumen per watt are looking very similar.
they even print Imax 700mA on the strip itself.
also the 1400mA max are like normal with any blux strip, can be done, needs probably a heatsink.
Im pretty sure you can take the 90cri results and add maybe 2-4% in par /w. Really your in the realm of so small differences that i dont think it matters. The blux HO seems to another chip maybe Tek would go for it. Also he might be more amenable now after Covid stuff have settled a bit more where hes at.I offered to send 3500k Gen 3. Strip for testing and even pay for it. But he just referred me to the 90CRI 2700K test. I'd kill for some IES files of these strips so I can map out my room in dialux because I have some layout ideas I'd like to test without drilling and hanging lights 1000 times. .
Te borran los post o los borras tu? Que cada vez desaparechen. Creo que les da mania lo del no ingles, o quizas algun usariohard to find ies files actually...but i sawed this maybe helps us a bit...
BRIDGELUX GEN3 SLIM 2700K CRI90 560MM 500MA HORTI.zip (1.6 KiB) Downloaded 48 times
Here are the IES files for the Bridgelux gen3 2ft lengths
Be sure to add the dimensions in when you use them in DIALUX
ya me gustaria tener la coleccion de Welight de cutter o la de los ledtechnik.de... amen de todas las luces de cultivo...
...ahora esa info esta en manos de comerciales pues suele ser info de pago...
o que hubiera tambien una coleccion de armarios de cultivo comerciales en dialux... asi podrias ver como quedaria iluminado tu armario preferido...con las luces que tu elijas...
amen de otros espacios de cultivo tipicos...como habitaciones o cuartos... invernaderos de jardin... etc etc...
estaria genial una version de dialux para cultivadores de interior... con colecciones de luces ...armarios...zonas de cultivo tipicas...pero son solo sueños... se podria intentar una coleccion de ies files de lampars de cultivo...
los led comerciales horticurturales...que se estan usando... que tampoco son muchos... deberian haber mas...que ni conozco pues estoy oxidado...y mucha info interesante ahora es de pago...y eso lo nota el diyer...
Saludos desde Tenerife
on RGB 2835 leds its clear theyre using more then one die, so its doable even without vaseline.I think the double die is quite common. Im pretty sure that the Cree 2835 HE is a double die and it has max amp 480mA : double the normal crees midpowers. I know alot of olld blurple chips where marketed as double die. Heck if they can get in 8 coils in a 5050 chip they should be able to squeeze in 2 in a midpower. Will and vaseline, lol.
Youre quite right, too many datasheets. I was thinking of the lumileds 2835 HEon RGB 2835 leds its clear theyre using more then one die, so its doable even without vaseline.
while have never seen any bridgelux phosphor coated led using this technique, the numbers from the blux exel sheet also doesnt indicate a big jump or other differences.
would be interessted to read, where is it explained the cree 2835 he is using 2 dies.
the datasheet simply dont say much about it.
maybe not even the led youre refering to as it states 240mA max.
on RGB 2835 leds its clear theyre using more then one die, so its doable even without vaseline.
while have never seen any bridgelux phosphor coated led using this technique, the numbers from the blux exel sheet also doesnt indicate a big jump or other differences.
would be interessted to read, where is it explained the cree 2835 he is using 2 dies.
the datasheet simply dont say much about it.
maybe not even the led youre refering to as it states 240mA max.
you have to adjust the light on ies import to its actual sizeAnyone load that 2ft strip model into dialux? It comes up as a round fixture for me instead of a strip. Kind of weird snd making me doubt the results. Plus I am only getting about 500-600ppfd at 18" below the light with 56 of the 2ft strip ies file @ .700a
am confuesed there too atm.Youre quite right, too many datasheets. I was thinking of the lumileds 2835 HE
2835 0.5W 3V D |
2835 0.5W 3V Gen2 | BXEN-30E-11M-3AA-00-0-0 | 190 | 150 | 150 | 20 | 2,7 | 0,05 | 10 | 0,2 | 2,8 |
2835 0.5W 3V(CRI90) | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
2835 0.5W 3V D | BXEN-30E-21M-3DA-00-0-0 | 204 | 180 | 150 | 20 | 2,6 | 0,05 | 11 | 0,2 | 3,0 |
2835 0.5W 3V D(CRI90) | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
2835 0.5W 3V Gen3 | BXEN-30E-11M-3CA-00-0-0 | 198 | 180 | 150 | 20 | 2,7 | 0,05 | 10 | 0,2 | 2,9 |
I don't see how 2835 0.5w 3v D could be the HO. It's efficiency is better than the Gen 3, yet in the datasheets for these two products the HO is slightly less efficient.i think this is the led used in the HO strips.
this is the regular blux EB3.
if you open the Bridgelux SMD Product Simulator EFFECTIVE 20200708 Rev 11.xlsm in their product sim you see the
beeing the best of the bunch and if thats the one used on these HO strips it looks not bad.
2835 0.5W 3V D
at a low 20mA
lpw = 190/204/198
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2835 0.5W 3V Gen2 BXEN-30E-11M-3AA-00-0-0 190 150 150 20 2,7 0,05 10 0,2 2,8 2835 0.5W 3V(CRI90) - - - - - - - - - - 2835 0.5W 3V D BXEN-30E-21M-3DA-00-0-0 204 180 150 20 2,6 0,05 11 0,2 3,0 2835 0.5W 3V D(CRI90) - - - - - - - - - - 2835 0.5W 3V Gen3 BXEN-30E-11M-3CA-00-0-0 198 180 150 20 2,7 0,05 10 0,2 2,9
Because it's the same efficiency at double the amps with the same number of diodes. So it has to have started at a more efficient point.I don't see how 2835 0.5w 3v D could be the HO. It's efficiency is better than the Gen 3, yet in the datasheets for these two products the HO is slightly less efficient.
I didn't think of LinkedIn. But I did even message one of their employees on Skype. No response. Lmao.just had an idea. im going to try to contact someone from Bridgelux on LinkedIn maybe if we can find an actual engineer they can help solve this mystery. I feel like maybe the questions just aren't getting to the right people. who knows what kind of corporate ladder is in effect.