Bring back the draft

ASCIIGHOST

ASCIIGHOST

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When it comes time for the promotion board infantry men are no longer brothers, and eat each other alive. Just saying...
 
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spandy

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mollymcgrammar said:
Call me when there is a war worth fighting. My felonies may exclude me from the draft but im pretty good with a gun. Never shot a rifle but i bet i can take out a few enemy troops with a 1911 or the 22lr revolver i used to have.
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bearkat42 said:
Well good luck. I'll see you IF you get back.
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He isn't coming back. However, if found, he will have an unused 1911 and 22lr revolver on or near his body.
 
mollymcgrammar

mollymcgrammar

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spandy said:
He isn't coming back. However, if found, he will have an unused 1911 and 22lr revolver on or near his body.
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That was sarcasm. As i said before, only way i would go to war would be on our soil. My felony record would probably keep me out of the service.

There are better men than me that are much more capable of protecting our country. My firearm experience is limited to self defense training i took as a teenager, and target shooting.

Revolvers IMO are where its at, the reload time may be longer but i was a much better shot with that 22lr than any pistol ive fired. Before i caught my felony, i planned on using that 22lr as my carry weapon. People laugh at the idea of a 22 as a defense weapon but the low recoil makes it easy to use even in a rush, and a 22lr CAN penetrate a basic vest.
 
Fogdog

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mollymcgrammar said:
You guys that fought in Veitnam were the last of a dying breed. Its a shame the way so many Nam veterans have been shit on by our country.

Whether we belonged in that conflict or not is irrelevant at this point, but thank you for your service.

I won't lie, if i was alive at the time, i would have gone to prison instead of Nam. I wouldn't have fled to canada, but i damn sure wouldn't go to Nam. You folks that did took courage to a whole new level.
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STFU You can't know what you would have done then. You are gifted with 20:20 hindsight. If you couldn't afford a deferment, there were no good options for a young draft eligible man at the time. The situation was created by old men in Washington. Young men chose what to do and lived with the decision for the rest of their lives. Those that went to nam were treated very badly when they came back by ignorant young people that had no clue. Nobody coming of age at that time really understood what was happening.

ASCIIGHOST said:
So you put yourself in that position, and are proud of it I'm guessing due to the hat? What was that war about again?
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ASCII-Doer. Snarky shithead sock puppet troll. Some day your life will end. Nobody will care other than a few and those will only have memories of regret that they knew you.

The draft is still around but its on hold until another of the elder crowd in Washington find a reason to activate it. And a peacetime draft? What kind of ninny hammer idea is that? What would you have those people do during peacetime? Is channeling young people through the military machine during peace time the best way for young people to get a start in life? How about instead offer tuition free college education with a stipend and housing assistance like some countries do?
 
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Grandpapy

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Bringing back the Draft now while Corporations are in power will just put us in Siberia earlier then necessary. imo.

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10-15 more years......we will have a lot more in "Common".
Someone forgot to tell the Energy Dept. that Russia was no longer a threat.
Oil Industry will be/is the Victor. Unscathed.

Side note: The White-house web site, now lists Energy and Environment together as an issue,
sort of a "Yea, but.....". Sad.... or Clever, depending on your prospective.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/energy

Rant over.
 
ODanksta

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This new generation of young adults are doomed! All metrosexual and hipsters.

18 year old dudes look like 13 year girls.

Lol, I'd be scared to see them in war.
 
mollymcgrammar

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Fogdog said:
STFU You can't know what you would have done then. You are gifted with 20:20 hindsight. If you couldn't afford a deferment, there were no good options for a young draft eligible man at the time. The situation was created by old men in Washington. Young men chose what to do and lived with the decision for the rest of their lives. Those that went to nam were treated very badly when they came back by ignorant young people that had no clue. Nobody coming of age at that time really understood what was happening.
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Your right, there were no good options. The choices were canada, veitnam, or prison.... Well... Ive been to prison, and as much as it sucks its alot better that the things ive heard about Veitnam. I respect the fuck out of anyone who had the balls to go. Even with a draft it still was a choice. You can refuse to go, as long as your willing to live with that.

How can you tell me i don't know what i would have done? I would have ran like a little bitch. Thats a fact. Given the choice today to join the service and fight a war in the most inhospitable place on earth, or sit in a prison playing basketball and reading..... Not a hard decision for me.

Not saying that would have been the right thing to do, just saying that my given current mentality, prison doesn't scare me half as much as a VC with a rifle would. I probably would have tried to make my refusal seem like some sort of protest and acted all tough and shit, but at the end of the day i would have dodged the draft because i would have been scared to death, and no part of it would have been anything noble.

Nam vets are heroes in their own right. They had the balls to go into a seemingly suicidal situation, no matter the purpose of the war itself. Those who fought the VC are the baddest of the badasses.
 
doublejj

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mollymcgrammar said:
Your right, there were no good options. The choices were canada, veitnam, or prison.... Well... Ive been to prison, and as much as it sucks its alot better that the things ive heard about Veitnam. I respect the fuck out of anyone who had the balls to go. Even with a draft it still was a choice. You can refuse to go, as long as your willing to live with that.

How can you tell me i don't know what i would have done? I would have ran like a little bitch. Thats a fact. Given the choice today to join the service and fight a war in the most inhospitable place on earth, or sit in a prison playing basketball and reading..... Not a hard decision for me.

Not saying that would have been the right thing to do, just saying that my given current mentality, prison doesn't scare me half as much as a VC with a rifle would. I probably would have tried to make my refusal seem like some sort of protest and acted all tough and shit, but at the end of the day i would have dodged the draft because i would have been scared to death, and no part of it would have been anything noble.

Nam vets are heroes in their own right. They had the balls to go into a seemingly suicidal situation, no matter the purpose of the war itself. Those who fought the VC are the baddest of the badasses.
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My unit 9th Infantry in Vietnam.......
 
Fogdog

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mollymcgrammar said:
Your right, there were no good options. The choices were canada, veitnam, or prison.... Well... Ive been to prison, and as much as it sucks its alot better that the things ive heard about Veitnam. I respect the fuck out of anyone who had the balls to go. Even with a draft it still was a choice. You can refuse to go, as long as your willing to live with that.

How can you tell me i don't know what i would have done? I would have ran like a little bitch. Thats a fact. Given the choice today to join the service and fight a war in the most inhospitable place on earth, or sit in a prison playing basketball and reading..... Not a hard decision for me.

Not saying that would have been the right thing to do, just saying that my given current mentality, prison doesn't scare me half as much as a VC with a rifle would. I probably would have tried to make my refusal seem like some sort of protest and acted all tough and shit, but at the end of the day i would have dodged the draft because i would have been scared to death, and no part of it would have been anything noble.

Nam vets are heroes in their own right. They had the balls to go into a seemingly suicidal situation, no matter the purpose of the war itself. Those who fought the VC are the baddest of the badasses.
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Obtuse fail. One side of your mouth honors the vets while the other says they were fools to go. Goddamit you are stupid.

The propaganda of the day, pressure from parents who had gone through WWII, an uncertain future for a draft dodger -- amnesty was not discussed. An 18 year old whose lottery number was up didn't have much choice.
 
mollymcgrammar

mollymcgrammar

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Fogdog said:
Obtuse fail. One side of your mouth honors the vets while the other says they were fools to go. Goddamit you are stupid.

The propaganda of the day, pressure from parents who had gone through WWII, an uncertain future for a draft dodger -- amnesty was not discussed. An 18 year old whose lottery number was up didn't have much choice.
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Im not calling them fools at all, im calling them better men than myself.

Personally ive always been a runner. I ran from every juvenile lock up that i possibly could have, i ran from a prison work release program, ran away from home more times than i can count... I damn sure would have ran from the draft.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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mollymcgrammar said:
Im not calling them fools at all, im calling them better men than myself.

Personally ive always been a runner. I ran from every juvenile lock up that i possibly could have, i ran from a prison work release program, ran away from home more times than i can count... I damn sure would have ran from the draft.
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You are so stupid you don't even understand what you are saying.

Given the choice today to join the service and fight a war in the most inhospitable place on earth, or sit in a prison playing basketball and reading..... Not a hard decision for me.

Just stop. Nobody wants to hear what you think anyway.
 
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