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OneHitDone

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pinner420 said:
Have any of you guys been eyeballing the new horti 600 cmh?
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Don't mention 600cmh or @Evil-Mobo might loose his shit :P

Looks like a very interesting lamp and can't wait to see some grow results with it. It is Horizontal rated and requires the Hortilux Gold Ballst for proper start up.
I have a Gold 600 for veg but all my flower lamps currently are 1K's so don't have a spot for it currently but will definitely be watching...:hump:
 
ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
Don't mention 600cmh or @Evil-Mobo might loose his shit :P

Looks like a very interesting lamp and can't wait to see some grow results with it. It is Horizontal rated and requires the Hortilux Gold Ballst for proper start up.
I have a Gold 600 for veg but all my flower lamps currently are 1K's so don't have a spot for it currently but will definitely be watching...:hump:
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The Gold ballast is not LFSW. That was the Platinum and they quit making it.

Honestly, considering all the trouble and expense, you'll get better results using modern LED.
 
OneHitDone

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ttystikk said:
The Gold ballast is not LFSW. That was the Platinum and they quit making it.

Honestly, considering all the trouble and expense, you'll get better results using modern LED.
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What the fuck are you talking about bro? Maybe you've been out of the grow game too long?
600W Ceramic HPS lamp does not require LFSW. It is high freq with start up characteristics that have them recommending only the Gold Ballast be used.
 
ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
What the fuck are you talking about bro? Maybe you've been out of the grow game too long?
600W Ceramic HPS lamp does not require LFSW. It is high freq with start up characteristics that have them recommending only the Gold Ballast be used.
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I'm not familiar with 'ceramic HPS'.

I turned my back on streetlights a long time ago and I see no reason to revisit that decision.

Hell, even my city is replacing HID with LED lights.
 
OneHitDone

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ttystikk said:
I'm not familiar with 'ceramic HPS'.

I turned my back on streetlights a long time ago and I see no reason to revisit that decision.

Hell, even my city is replacing HID with LED lights.
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Just stop with the spectrum deficient fanboy talk already :roll:
I am not anti-led. I am anti - "par" spectrum light whatever that source is. There is soo much more beyond par and the plants know the difference.
 
ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
Just stop with the spectrum deficient fanboy talk already :roll:
I am not anti-led. I am anti - "par" spectrum light whatever that source is. There is soo much more beyond par and the plants know the difference.
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Gee, are we just a little sensitive?

Yes, HID lighting does have something over LED; lots more infrared. I've seen it myself using highly sophisticated instrumentation.

For the record, you'll notice that I didn't mention spectrum even once.

The reason my city is shitcanning HID boils down to cost. LED is more efficient and lasts much longer.

Part of the reason I went to all LED is because my city passed an ordinance outlawing HID in private residences, including single family homes.

The other part of the reason was that if I'm doing grow research I need to have the most modern lights available.

The fact that I'm never going to work with HID lighting again shouldn't stop you. I'm fully aware they can produce great results.
 
Thedunnaman

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Ha, and when it snows, does the leds melt the snow off the street lights? I install leds and hids on car headlights, and bow fishing boats. The leds do not penatrate fog, nor water as well as a hid. U want light that penatrates?
As far as the whole led goes I have little knowledge of them. I used them when they first came out, the 90w ufos I had 2 in a small 3x2 area and did not like the results. I know they came a long way from then, but hid is my proven stand by method!
Mh bulbs. Im about to experience the advanced badd ass bulbs. They r conversion bulbs that run on hps ballast. I know they have shitty reviews, but there was no hard evidence backing up the reviews I’ve read. I am about to flower with (2) 600w mh and (1) 600w hps. Advanced nutrients says they can b hung vertical. Reason for mix lighting is I do not know. I just figure it looks more like that thing in the sky we call a sun.
 
OneHitDone

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Thedunnaman said:
Ha, and when it snows, does the leds melt the snow off the street lights? I install leds and hids on car headlights, and bow fishing boats. The leds do not penatrate fog, nor water as well as a hid. U want light that penatrates?
As far as the whole led goes I have little knowledge of them. I used them when they first came out, the 90w ufos I had 2 in a small 3x2 area and did not like the results. I know they came a long way from then, but hid is my proven stand by method!
Mh bulbs. Im about to experience the advanced badd ass bulbs. They r conversion bulbs that run on hps ballast. I know they have shitty reviews, but there was no hard evidence backing up the reviews I’ve read. I am about to flower with (2) 600w mh and (1) 600w hps. Advanced nutrients says they can b hung vertical. Reason for mix lighting is I do not know. I just figure it looks more like that thing in the sky we call a sun.
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:clap:
Finally someone who knows what's up and can see the whole picture when it comes to lighting :bigjoint:
 
ttystikk

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Thedunnaman said:
Ha, and when it snows, does the leds melt the snow off the street lights? I install leds and hids on car headlights, and bow fishing boats. The leds do not penatrate fog, nor water as well as a hid. U want light that penatrates?
As far as the whole led goes I have little knowledge of them. I used them when they first came out, the 90w ufos I had 2 in a small 3x2 area and did not like the results. I know they came a long way from then, but hid is my proven stand by method!
Mh bulbs. Im about to experience the advanced badd ass bulbs. They r conversion bulbs that run on hps ballast. I know they have shitty reviews, but there was no hard evidence backing up the reviews I’ve read. I am about to flower with (2) 600w mh and (1) 600w hps. Advanced nutrients says they can b hung vertical. Reason for mix lighting is I do not know. I just figure it looks more like that thing in the sky we call a sun.
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If you're going to stick with HID, I'd suggest either 315W CMH or 6/750W DE HPS. These are the most efficient and longest lasting HID on the market.

Another interesting option would be Revolution Micro one piece 1000/1150W DE HPS fixtures. They use LFSW driver technology, same as the old Hortilux Platinum ballast.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Thedunnaman said:
Ha, and when it snows, does the leds melt the snow off the street lights? I install leds and hids on car headlights, and bow fishing boats. The leds do not penatrate fog, nor water as well as a hid. U want light that penatrates?
As far as the whole led goes I have little knowledge of them. I used them when they first came out, the 90w ufos I had 2 in a small 3x2 area and did not like the results. I know they came a long way from then, but hid is my proven stand by method!
Mh bulbs. Im about to experience the advanced badd ass bulbs. They r conversion bulbs that run on hps ballast. I know they have shitty reviews, but there was no hard evidence backing up the reviews I’ve read. I am about to flower with (2) 600w mh and (1) 600w hps. Advanced nutrients says they can b hung vertical. Reason for mix lighting is I do not know. I just figure it looks more like that thing in the sky we call a sun.
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Did you compare your lamps on a watt for watt basis? I'm betting you didn't.

It is also true that LED tech is advancing rapidly, and the old stuff was not very good.
 
OneHitDone

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ttystikk said:
If you're going to stick with HID, I'd suggest either 315W CMH or 6/750W DE HPS. These are the most efficient and longest lasting HID on the market.

Another interesting option would be Revolution Micro one piece 1000/1150W DE HPS fixtures. They use LFSW driver technology, same as the old Hortilux Platinum ballast.
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Just a side note - are you aware of the reputation that Revolution Micro is carrying around?
 
OneHitDone

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ttystikk said:
Do tell?
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Would have to do some digging to find the details but it ain't purdy. Seen talk of it in several places and one of those is mainly industry leading companies talking lighting in a closed group.

As to the efficiency yada yada - show me a DE or open reflector anything that can run as close to the plants as my air cooled hoods. Not happening so to me "efficiency" is all relative
 
ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
Would have to do some digging to find the details but it ain't purdy. Seen talk of it in several places and one of those is mainly industry leading companies talking lighting in a closed group.

As to the efficiency yada yada - show me a DE or open reflector anything that can run as close to the plants as my air cooled hoods. Not happening so to me "efficiency" is all relative
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PM me if you'd rather but I'm interested in what's been said.
 
OneHitDone

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Been a bit and time for an update:
Retreated on the 5 gallon buckets full of hydroton idea, that is just too much media to deal with every time.... So - OneHit Low Pressure Aero it is!!!
First batch of plants in veg are looking strong with the change

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And meanwhile in the flower box - this ain't your momma's Kush!! :hump:

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