Brothers Grimm Cinderella 99 Regular Journal

goodness, no wonder your electric is through the roof haha!

Why do you mix the CMH with the HPS?

Gosh I love those seas of green autos! And the princesses... seems I joined in at the perfect time, I love this phase Though the pretraining is great too
Cheers!

CMH has much better color rendering vs HPS, and IMHO HPS isn't sufficient on its own. It works. But not optimal.

Combining the 2 gives the best of both worlds. The CMH has wide spectrum, and the added HPS gives added Red which is needed for better flowering.

If 1 is going to use strictly HPS I would recommend the Hortilux HPS as it is a Blue Enhanced HPS, and provides what the plant needs. But by combining his 2 lights he gets the best of both spectrums with emphasis on Red.

jimihendrix1 said:

CMH has much better color rendering vs HPS, and IMHO HPS isn't sufficient on its own. It works. But not optimal.

Combining the 2 gives the best of both worlds. The CMH has wide spectrum, and the added HPS gives added Red which is needed for better flowering.

If 1 is going to use strictly HPS I would recommend the Hortilux HPS as it is a Blue Enhanced HPS, and provides what the plant needs. But by combining his 2 lights he gets the best of both spectrums with emphasis on Red.

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Ah thanks, makes sense
I was thinking in the direction of CMH only, still makes sense
Cheers!

Funny old thing hps. If I have cmh on, then turn on leds, I still see mainly white light. If I run hps with cmh, I just see that yellow blur and can hardly even make out that the cmh is on. I know it's on though, also I know it works well by itself in a 4ft x 4ft area. It will all make sense when these flower It's so bright in there, I can't even see the infared dot on the leaves from the temperature gun

I'm going to switch the plants round, the sad's on the right are slightly taller, so I'll move them to the left under the cmh, after their next feed. Less heat to them, few of the top leaves are getting shark teeth leaf

I have to use hps as well, as it's cold in the UK. It's an easy time to use lots of light, so I make the most of it. I have all my windows open 24/7 to supply all the plants with fresh air, if I added another 400w lamp, the ambient temps would be too hot. I've max'd out the ambient temps and am growing auto's on 24-0 to keep the C'99's nice and warm in the dark period.

I was using another cmh instead of one of the 400w's, but the ballast broke and fucked the lamp too, which has ignition problems.

Overall though, this is where my growing skills come in. I'm going to fill both these 4ft x 4ft tents to the brim with bud. in the next 21 days

Fevs said:

Funny old thing hps. If I have cmh on, then turn on leds, I still see mainly white light. If I run hps with cmh, I just see that yellow blur and can hardly even make out that the cmh is on. I know it's on though, also I know it works well by itself in a 4ft x 4ft area. It will all make sense when these flower It's so bright in there, I can't even see the infared dot on the leaves from the temperature gun

I'm going to switch the plants round, the sad's on the right are slightly taller, so I'll move them to the left under the cmh, after their next feed. Less heat to them, few of the top leaves are getting shark teeth leaf

I have to use hps as well, as it's cold in the UK. It's an easy time to use lots of light, so I make the most of it. I have all my windows open 24/7 to supply all the plants with fresh air, if I added another 400w lamp, the ambient temps would be too hot. I've max'd out the ambient temps and am growing auto's on 24-0 to keep the C'99's nice and warm in the dark period.

I was using another cmh instead of one of the 400w's, but the ballast broke and fucked the lamp too, which has ignition problems.

Overall though, this is where my growing skills come in. I'm going to fill both these 4ft x 4ft tents to the brim with bud. in the next 21 days

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haha! right on man!

Fevs said:

Brothers Grimm Cinderella '99 day 4 of 12/12, plus a shot of the C'99 + Grimmidica's together.

It's going to he so hard to pick a mother from these 6 plants



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Ah, now I am seeing them in context
They sure took off after that mycos application, didn't they -- I'd be curious, does the stuff you used contain trichoderma too?
Kind of looked like you hit them with it at the perfect time, when they were getting ready to take off. Very vigorous they are!

I love that the C99 apparently also does what the Sour Stomper I'm just finishing did - stiffen up those stems at the perfect moment! Seeing that on mine made me really appreciate how that kind of characteristic is actually bred into the strain. Amazing, an art on its own.
I really want to grow a c99 myself some day - after all, it was a C99 that got me scrogging

Cheers!

Yeah they sure love that mycos stuff. I have never heard of trichoderma

Now, I just put 1 teaspoon in every 5 liters on every feed. I killed a round of clones with the stuff, 24 hours after transplanting them You know those little tests we do that can go great or badly wrong But every other plant has loved the stuff!!

I was thinking yesterday about what's going to happen when the C'99 grow finishes So I transplanted a very strong looking female from Brothers Grimm Grimm mix 'C'99 Einstein male x Elite Clone' into a large air pot. Also put the C'99 clone 6 into a large air pot and the Brothers Grimm Grimmidica strongest female into a big square pot, fed them some mycos and epsom salts for magnesium. Those 3 plants are hidden underneath some autoflowers, but I want them rooting out their big pots.They have 6 weeks at least to veg. As the auto's finish, they will have more space and more light. It's going to be great growing 3 elite females with such fine genetics, in big pots

To fit these in I have placed auto's on top of empty pots. It's looking great in there! All the plants that look like fast finishers are riased and 12''-18'' from the 400w hps and 315w cmh. They lower branches are getting loads more light too. Kind of like a 2 tier canopy

Day 13 of 12/12 for C'99 plants. Fed them last night about 1/3 of a liter of fish mix, mycos and top max flower booster. Still very light feeds npk wise... Fed them about 1/2 a liter of plain water today, ph 7.4 bubbled tap water. Nice ph level to stop the soil getting too acidic. No rush for these, I'm just going to try and keep them green, let them do the rest naturally whilst they're healthy



C'99 clones from C'99 1 & 2. Got some root riot cubes otw, so I'll put the in them when they get here.

Here is the 2 tier auto and photo veg tent which is crammed. The auto's on the floor will take longer anyway, the most advanced auto's on the top are thriving. 7 of them are on day 32, 3 on day 40.

Fast bud#2 day 40



G13 diesels x 2 on day 32 from seed. These will finish much later than the sweet seeds auto's, so will finish very strong with loads of light



Others on day 32 with a few hidden photoperiods...

Ah that cloner is cool - it's water only right?

You know normally the most effective and frugal way to use the mycos is to sprinkle them on roots during transplant. Also, sprinkle on the seed when sowing out. Then the spores are right where they're needed and don't need to get randomly spread into the soil as they are when watered. They get started from the get go and your plants can develop the symbiosis from then too

That said, I LOVE that canopy!!

Right, next up is the 3ft x 3ft tent with 250w dual spec hps covering 1 fast bud#2 and 3 Black Jack Auto's.

See how the colas are growing above the bottom of the lamp. A 250w hps is a damn fine lamp. Not very efficient on the specs and stats, but sure grows some nice bud!

Loving using the mini grostar properly. Took me a few grows to get it right.. Day 40 for the 4 girls in about 3 gallon pots.

Next up is 4ft x 4ft area with 7 Sweet Afghan Delicious autos and 7 Sweet Cheese auto's on day 32 from seed.

Can't ask for much more than this at 1 month old

My attitude here, in this particular tent is... ''Fuck the heat stress, look at 'em go!!!''

calliandra said:

Ah that cloner is cool - it's water only right?

You know normally the most effective and frugal way to use the mycos is to sprinkle them on roots during transplant. Also, sprinkle on the seed when sowing out. Then the spores are right where they're needed and don't need to get randomly spread into the soil as they are when watered. They get started from the get go and your plants can develop the symbiosis from then too

That said, I LOVE that canopy!!

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Yeah I know that it's better to do it that way, but only started using it half way through this grow. It's the wettable mycos though, so will still benefit my grow a great deal. I'll get some of the potting up mycos soon.

I must admit, I'm impressed by the wettable version!

The cloner is just water, don't use anything else, just water for the whole process. Ph 5.5.

More feeds done on all the auto's today, this should hold them for 36-48 hours. No run off again, 3rd feed in 3 days. This time it was 3ml bloom - per 1 liter. I want them to get used to this feed. I won't be using grow feed or fish mix for the auto's anymore. Will for the C'99 plants. I usually do this about this time for around 1 week of the grow, I pick up the pot, feed it just until it's the same weight where you think to yourself 'this will need feeding tmrw!' Then put it back in the tent. It's a good way of getting the plants to take up some nitrogen before that ends, I'm sure it speeds up the plants metabolism too, also a major advantage is the pots are all dry at the same time ready for the bloom feeds. I'm going to go 2 light feeds (1/3 of a liter each), then 1 with run off (2 liters each).

The 2 fast bud#2 plants in the big auto tent that are next to come in, got their last nutes feed. They had 4 liters each of 3ml bloom. Loads of run off, bloom was ph 6.6. I'll have those 2 on plain water now.

Good news too on the photoperiod side... I have 3 female regular Grimm Mix plants, only had 4 left, so 3 females is great, other still hasn't shown sex. I plugged the 250w 7200k metal halide in the veg tent to grow them faster. The set up with just led was too cold.

I have moved the advanced led xml150 in with the afghan and cheese auto's, alongside the 400w hps and 315w daylight cmh.

I cut down the most advanced fast bud#2 on day 41 from seed I'll do a weigh in, reckon there is about 1 ounce. I have some empty jars and jittery friends, so all that will go like hot cakes! So much easier to fit the plants back in too, plus the next best fast bud#2 is under the lamp now. These 1st few fast bud#2's will keep things afloat. I've invested a lot of money on genetics and grow stuff this grow, so must balance the books with a lightning harvest

Veg tent

Very pleased, my C'99 #2 clone mother plant is growing, she had no leaves a few weeks back and still made it! She was C'99 #2 which was the 1st plant to show that she was female, also still is looking great! I really want to keep those genetics. The buds in the end will tell me what I need to know, but there is much to learn about the possible mothers now too. They are very similar, very uniform...

Anyway, photo + clones that ain't rooted yet...

Black Jack Auto's x 3 and 1 fast bud#2 on day 43 from seed

250w hps - mini grostar vertical reflector.

The bja plants are smelling real good, so is the fast bud#2, but that's old news to me, I haven't grown black jack auto before, so this is a damn fresh new bud smell

4ft x 4ft auto tent, 1 purple haze, 2 diesel's, 4 skunks, 2 fast bud#2's + 3 vegging plants in big pots hidden underneath. Some autos on day 35 from seed, 2 on day 43 from seed, so bang on track!

All these plants were fed 3ml bloom last night, until they were almost saturated. Let them drain in the bath tub for an hour after the feed

Nice smell coming form this tent today, I can just tell they were desperate for that feed. I like to know they are hungry sometimes... Helps me know where I am with the feeds

Day 35 from seed for these 14 auto's in 3 gallon pots. Really treated these to a spectrum possibly better than anything I've grown under in the past. 315w cmh Philips daylight lamp 4200k, 400w-440w 400v dual spec hps with the advanced led xml150.

Flowering has commenced

Also damn near saturated these with 3ml bloom too Reckon they will be dry in 3 days this time, whilst they lap up the extra feed and water.

Day 16 of 12/12 for Cinderella 99. Checked on the today and they were proper thirsty. The lower 1/4 of the plant was droopy. I'm glad as there is no damage done, also I know the soil has had a nice amount of air in there and time to let the soil breath.

I had to slightly changed my tactics. I had bloom nutes made up, but opted for something else, as I don't feed dehydrated plants anything other than plain water. These girls got half a liter of plain water, then half an hour later, 6 table spoons of worm shit dumped on top of the soil, then slowly watered it in. It will take a few weeks for it all to wash in. I'm sure it will work very well with the mycos.

Last photo is the leaves starting to pray again

Anyway, Brother Grimm C'99 ladies. I took one out today and took a photo too

Feeds done last night, took me hours, like all night, haven't even been to bed It's 8am here in the UK

All auto's were fed 3ml bloom + some molasses

The 6 C'99 plants were fed 1ml silicone and 3ml fish mix - per 1 liter.

I'm running low on bloom nutes and fish mix now, I will run out after the next feed. I may just keep feeding them grow nutes instead of buying bloom. I've got a bottle of grow already, which has been in the cupboard for a bit, think it's npk 5-3-3. Not ideal, but close enough. It's organic anyway. Like to get my money's worth on nutes I've bought!

Going to top dress some bat guano soon on the C'99 ladies.

No clones have rooted from 8 try's with C'99#1.

8 clones have rooted from 10 attempts with C'99#2. Took at the same time, same conditions, same everything. Wierd...!

Going to let them go another day, then get them in soil. Possibly going to be vegging them for a C'99 sea of green. That's the general idea with keeping mother plants 'n' all

Anybody grown serious seeds AK47 regulars? Think that's next for me! Find an elite ak47 mother... if I have to keep other mothers I want more.

Got a nice collection of regular female plants now 6 x female C'99 plants, 4 x female Grimm Mix plants, 2 Grimmidica.

I want this mother list thinned out a bit though. I want 1 or 2 C'99 mothers,1 or 2 Grimm mix and 1 Grimmidica (unless they are different smoke)

Anybody grown Sensi Seeds Hindu Kush regulars? That's also on my hit list!