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Faustin024

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Been running bubble hash a couple times for the first time and keep getting a darker color. I can’t afford a 2500 dollar flash freezer so wondering if any bubble masters in the shadows out there got any tips for keeping a more blonde color like that comes off the bubble bags when first washed and collected.
-Materials and procedure-

trim-20 gal work bag (850g)
Bubble magic 20 gal washer
Boldtbag 5 gal 220,160,120,90,74,43,25
3 total washes at 12 min a piece
- slow agitation (9min)
- fast agitation (2-3min)
70 lbs ice total
Theoretical yield- call it 7.5% @ 65g
Actual yield- 54.1g
Percent yield- 54.1g/ 65gx100%=83.1%

Used a boldtbag screen to dry with cardboard under the screen to pull water for 2 days. Froze in freezer overnight, those are most the details on the wash if you see something I could improve to keep a better color or if you really need a freeze drier to get that color from the bag to stay the same. Either way the bubble is still super fire and tasted like the tropsanto flower I smoke.
 

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It usually gets darker after it’s fully dry. Mine is usually chestnut brown after micro-planing and drying on cardboard. There’s not much you can do to make it lighter because what comes out of the bag is simply what color the aggregated trichome heads are. Mature trichomes are typically amber to cloudy. If you got most of your material from the 90,74,and 43 bags you picked at the right time. Temperature has more to do with getting the heads to fall: cold is what freezes them off the plant material. You don’t need a flash freezer to make artisan hash. Looks pretty good to me but I like to process it a bit further by freezing while still wet and micro-planing with a zester. Helps dry it much faster. You can get moldy hash if you seal it wet.
 
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Faustin024

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Richard Drysift said:
It usually gets darker after it’s fully dry. Mine is usually chestnut brown after micro-planing and drying on cardboard. There’s not much you can do to make it lighter because what comes out of the bag is simply what color the aggregated trichome heads are. Mature trichomes are typically amber to cloudy. If you got most of your material from the 90,74,and 43 bags you picked at the right time. Temperature has more to do with getting the heads to fall: cold is what freezes them off the plant material. You don’t need a flash freezer to make artisan hash. Looks pretty good to me but I like to process it a bit further by freezing while still wet and micro-planing with a zester. Helps dry it much faster. You can get moldy hash if you seal it wet.
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Is that what the trick is? To micro plane for sec and then put into the freezer while still soupy? I noticed it gets at least more playdoughie when you use better trim or actual buds. I left it sit overnight I might try your method of freezer same night instead of air dry for night. Yea like I said I still know the darker is still good
 
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rembrandt100

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I just came across this thread after trying to figure out the same thing yesterday. After I hand and dry my plants I dry trim them over a tray with a micron screen bottom. After trimming I collect the sift from the tray and place it aside. Usually I freeze it. I tend to keep them in different pouches. Yesterday I decided to process a 3 pouches. All done with the same process using parchment paper and a bottle of hot water. Roll it out, fold it over and do it again at least 7 times. More if you want. then roll into a ball. The attached pic shows the result. Two came out as usual and the third one would not change from blond and could not be rolled into a ball. It will set and harden but will not stick together and crumbles easily. Smokes good tho. The only difference is the plant that the product came from.
 

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Faustin024

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rembrandt100 said:
I just came across this thread after trying to figure out the same thing yesterday. After I hand and dry my plants I dry trim them over a tray with a micron screen bottom. After trimming I collect the sift from the tray and place it aside. Usually I freeze it. I tend to keep them in different pouches. Yesterday I decided to process a 3 pouches. All done with the same process using parchment paper and a bottle of hot water. Roll it out, fold it over and do it again at least 7 times. More if you want. then roll into a ball. The attached pic shows the result. Two came out as usual and the third one would not change from blond and could not be rolled into a ball. It will set and harden but will not stick together and crumbles easily. Smokes good tho. The only difference is the plant that the product came from.
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Those diff strains?
 
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Faustin024

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rembrandt100 said:
I just came across this thread after trying to figure out the same thing yesterday. After I hand and dry my plants I dry trim them over a tray with a micron screen bottom. After trimming I collect the sift from the tray and place it aside. Usually I freeze it. I tend to keep them in different pouches. Yesterday I decided to process a 3 pouches. All done with the same process using parchment paper and a bottle of hot water. Roll it out, fold it over and do it again at least 7 times. More if you want. then roll into a ball. The attached pic shows the result. Two came out as usual and the third one would not change from blond and could not be rolled into a ball. It will set and harden but will not stick together and crumbles easily. Smokes good tho. The only difference is the plant that the product came from.
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Pure pressure just always has some crazy fire looking white shit and I don’t know if I just gotta use cry fire top buds to get that or what lol
 
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hotrodharley

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In the Mazar I Sharif region hash plants aren't even touched until after snow is on them. The loss of the chlorophyll is one reason some hash is blonde.
 
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Richard Drysift

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Faustin024 said:
Is that what the trick is? To micro plane for sec and then put into the freezer while still soupy? I noticed it gets at least more playdoughie when you use better trim or actual buds. I left it sit overnight I might try your method of freezer same night instead of air dry for night. Yea like I said I still know the darker is still good
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No the trick is to freeze the hash right from the bag while still wet; then micro plane onto cardboard. You can wait til the next day to do it but you want some moisture in the material so it will freeze up nicely. As soon as the heat from your hands touches the hash while planing it starts getting sticky again; might even need to re-freeze if that starts to happen.
 
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Faustin024

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Richard Drysift said:
No the trick is to freeze the hash right from the bag while still wet; then micro plane onto cardboard. You can wait til the next day to do it but you want some moisture in the material so it will freeze up nicely. As soon as the heat from your hands touches the hash while planing it starts getting sticky again; might even need to re-freeze if that starts to happen.
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Right on that’s what’s up appreciate the help I’ll post the third run in month I’m stuck in trim prison for couple weeks lol
 
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Richard Drysift

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rembrandt100 said:
I just came across this thread after trying to figure out the same thing yesterday. After I hand and dry my plants I dry trim them over a tray with a micron screen bottom. After trimming I collect the sift from the tray and place it aside. Usually I freeze it. I tend to keep them in different pouches. Yesterday I decided to process a 3 pouches. All done with the same process using parchment paper and a bottle of hot water. Roll it out, fold it over and do it again at least 7 times. More if you want. then roll into a ball. The attached pic shows the result. Two came out as usual and the third one would not change from blond and could not be rolled into a ball. It will set and harden but will not stick together and crumbles easily. Smokes good tho. The only difference is the plant that the product came from.
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You can press dry-sifted hash but it usually has trash in it that prevents the heads from melting together uniformly; really depends upon how gently it is bounced. Dry-sifted kief is pretty good as it is. I just top a bowl with it. Usually made from whatever falls on/through my sifting screens when trimming and the occasional larfy loose bud. You could try to “clean” it with different size micron screens but it takes some effort.
Water (bubble) hash is filtered so if you do it right all your full melt should be in the 74u or 45u bags. Resin heads are typically around 50 to 100 microns; you need to separate them from everything else to make full melt hashish. “Full melt” meaning you have separated the resin heads and only the heads so when it is dried and pressed it is dabb-able; melts on a nail. That’s the shit, son
 
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waterproof808

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Faustin024 said:
Pure pressure just always has some crazy fire looking white shit and I don’t know if I just gotta use cry fire top buds to get that or what lol
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They use freeze dryers and fresh frozen material. Its the only way to get almost white hash. Drying your hash in cool temp's will keep the color from getting dark but it will never look as good as hash that has been freeze dried.
 
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Faustin024

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waterproof808 said:
They use freeze dryers and fresh frozen material. Its the only way to get almost white hash. Drying your hash in cool temp's will keep the color from getting dark but it will never look as good as hash that has been freeze dried.
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Yea that’s what I was thinking that freezer is like 2500 tho lol ans a ton of work with oil in the pump
 
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waterproof808

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Faustin024 said:
Yea that’s what I was thinking that freezer is like 2500 tho lol ans a ton of work with oil in the pump
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Yeah, I’ve been wanting to buy one for a while. If you consider live rosin sells for like $75+ a gram it could pay for itself quickly. Plus, you can process other growers material if you want.
 
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Star Dog

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Faustin024 said:
Been running bubble hash a couple times for the first time and keep getting a darker color. I can’t afford a 2500 dollar flash freezer so wondering if any bubble masters in the shadows out there got any tips for keeping a more blonde color like that comes off the bubble bags when first washed and collected.
-Materials and procedure-

trim-20 gal work bag (850g)
Bubble magic 20 gal washer
Boldtbag 5 gal 220,160,120,90,74,43,25
3 total washes at 12 min a piece
- slow agitation (9min)
- fast agitation (2-3min)
70 lbs ice total
Theoretical yield- call it 7.5% @ 65g
Actual yield- 54.1g
Percent yield- 54.1g/ 65gx100%=83.1%

Used a boldtbag screen to dry with cardboard under the screen to pull water for 2 days. Froze in freezer overnight, those are most the details on the wash if you see something I could improve to keep a better color or if you really need a freeze drier to get that color from the bag to stay the same. Either way the bubble is still super fire and tasted like the tropsanto flower I smoke.
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After drying it for 2 days did you have to put it in the freezer?

I'm about to try it for the 1st time I was hoping I could just dry it then hand press?

Cheers
 
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