I use a paint mixer in a cordless drill, way easier but the end result is a bit dirtier, smokes fine though.
Bubble Hash using Buds and Yield
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Puff_Dragon
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Thanks for all the good info people. Really appreciate it.
fyi - I've actually heard Frenchy say he does 'up to' ELEVEN washes! But, this is rare and based on strain (and his washes can be quite quick).
I've never done more than about three or four washes myself ..to be honest, my back is breaking at that point
I should, one time, do a bunch of washes (just to experience how the plant breaks down fully).
On a side note:
I'm even thinking of going away from bubble bags, in general.
I'm finding impressive results simply using a mason jar filled with cold water, ice and weed.
Shake that bad boy up, every time I take a break from shaking ..in the freezer the jar goes (whenever I can jars/jugs sit in the fridge when not using).
When happy, I run it through a colander (removes ice and main plant matter) into a jug.
Then, through two other (progressively finer) tea sieves (again, into a jug).
Then, through a 95 micron bag (this is mostly green matter) into another jug.
Finally, through a 25 micron bag (note - I rinse the product before collecting, as I do with the 95 micron bag, to clear any contaminants I can).
The result was golden yellow and made me think why spend all that time doing the bubble bag process. This mason jar process was at least 1.5 hours faster ..and the cleanup was a simple
This process was quick and the returns were promising and high quality ..enough that I might do away with old bubble bag process.
That is, unless I'm processing a mountain of trim (in which case the bubble bags would be brought out
Peace.
fyi - I've actually heard Frenchy say he does 'up to' ELEVEN washes! But, this is rare and based on strain (and his washes can be quite quick).
I've never done more than about three or four washes myself ..to be honest, my back is breaking at that point
I should, one time, do a bunch of washes (just to experience how the plant breaks down fully).
On a side note:
I'm even thinking of going away from bubble bags, in general.
I'm finding impressive results simply using a mason jar filled with cold water, ice and weed.
Shake that bad boy up, every time I take a break from shaking ..in the freezer the jar goes (whenever I can jars/jugs sit in the fridge when not using).
When happy, I run it through a colander (removes ice and main plant matter) into a jug.
Then, through two other (progressively finer) tea sieves (again, into a jug).
Then, through a 95 micron bag (this is mostly green matter) into another jug.
Finally, through a 25 micron bag (note - I rinse the product before collecting, as I do with the 95 micron bag, to clear any contaminants I can).
The result was golden yellow and made me think why spend all that time doing the bubble bag process. This mason jar process was at least 1.5 hours faster ..and the cleanup was a simple
This process was quick and the returns were promising and high quality ..enough that I might do away with old bubble bag process.
That is, unless I'm processing a mountain of trim (in which case the bubble bags would be brought out
Peace.
Wizzlebiz
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Do me a favor. Make a journal of your process please.Thanks for all the good info people. Really appreciate it.
fyi - I've actually heard Frenchy say he does 'up to' ELEVEN washes! But, this is rare and based on strain (and his washes can be quite quick).
I've never done more than about three or four washes myself ..to be honest, my back is breaking at that point
I should, one time, do a bunch of washes (just to experience how the plant breaks down fully).
On a side note:
I'm even thinking of going away from bubble bags, in general.
I'm finding impressive results simply using a mason jar filled with cold water, ice and weed.
Shake that bad boy up, every time I take a break from shaking ..in the freezer the jar goes (whenever I can jars/jugs sit in the fridge when not using).
When happy, I run it through a colander (removes ice and main plant matter) into a jug.
Then, through two other (progressively finer) tea sieves (again, into a jug).
Then, through a 95 micron bag (this is mostly green matter) into another jug.
Finally, through a 25 micron bag (note - I rinse the product before collecting, as I do with the 95 micron bag, to clear any contaminants I can).
The result was golden yellow and made me think why spend all that time doing the bubble bag process. This mason jar process was at least 1.5 hours faster ..and the cleanup was a simple
This process was quick and the returns were promising and high quality ..enough that I might do away with old bubble bag process.
That is, unless I'm processing a mountain of trim (in which case the bubble bags would be brought out
Peace.
Have you done both side by side with the same weight in shake from the same plant to determine which way is cleaner, higher yielding and so on?
Puff_Dragon
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Np. It was the first time I attempted it
However, I'll try and do a journal the next time. It seemed the same (for the small amount I ran). But, the effort level was WAY lower
I'd actually seen a number of thread/videos online, where people were using the same (or similar) a method.
I'm now contemplating a 160 or 120 bag (instead of the 95). As the 95 (while 'green' when wet) has turned quite yellow in the last 12 hours. The 95 formed into 'balls' in the bubble bag before collection (so I assume there is some good stuff in there).
As for dry sifting buds. After wrapping umpteen bowls with mesh and beating 'drum tight' plastic bags for ages, I've decided to test using nothing but two large (in theory, any size is fine) plastic boxes that fit into one another. I cut the base off one box (the upper one) and added a mesh screen.
I place bud (and a few small steel ballbearings) in the freezer for 12/24 hrs.
Take them out, place in the upper box, fit lid, place into the other box. And then give it 10 minutes of 'side to side' shaking.
fyi - 'up and down' motions would cause green matter to get through too quickly).
You learn a few ways to spin the buds+ball bearings around the box (to get the correct agitation).
Periodically, I place the boxes in the freezer (then, repeat shaking process). I empty the kief every 5/10 minutes. And stop once I see any green coming through. After that, all the left overs will be put through a cold water wash to extract any stragglers
My mind has now turned down a dark path ..I see my AeroPress coffee maker, I see its plunger and a correctly proportioned micron screen below it.
I don't know what hash mayhem I can create with it. But, my mind ..it mulls over the possibilities
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Puff_Dragon
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on a side note (more of a note to myself)
1 - wear oven gloves (or something similar) when shaking the mason jar. It keeps the jar colder, longer. And saves on chilly fingers!
2 - start making hash using various combinations of bubble hash, dry sift kief ..and any other 'relevant' extraction processes. Rather than, just making the hash from one process at a time. Don't be a 'purist' ..mix it up a little
1 - wear oven gloves (or something similar) when shaking the mason jar. It keeps the jar colder, longer. And saves on chilly fingers!
2 - start making hash using various combinations of bubble hash, dry sift kief ..and any other 'relevant' extraction processes. Rather than, just making the hash from one process at a time. Don't be a 'purist' ..mix it up a little
Thats a great method, going to do that with my entire outdoor harvest this year.Thanks for all the good info people. Really appreciate it.
fyi - I've actually heard Frenchy say he does 'up to' ELEVEN washes! But, this is rare and based on strain (and his washes can be quite quick).
I've never done more than about three or four washes myself ..to be honest, my back is breaking at that point
I should, one time, do a bunch of washes (just to experience how the plant breaks down fully).
On a side note:
I'm even thinking of going away from bubble bags, in general.
I'm finding impressive results simply using a mason jar filled with cold water, ice and weed.
Shake that bad boy up, every time I take a break from shaking ..in the freezer the jar goes (whenever I can jars/jugs sit in the fridge when not using).
When happy, I run it through a colander (removes ice and main plant matter) into a jug.
Then, through two other (progressively finer) tea sieves (again, into a jug).
Then, through a 95 micron bag (this is mostly green matter) into another jug.
Finally, through a 25 micron bag (note - I rinse the product before collecting, as I do with the 95 micron bag, to clear any contaminants I can).
The result was golden yellow and made me think why spend all that time doing the bubble bag process. This mason jar process was at least 1.5 hours faster ..and the cleanup was a simple
This process was quick and the returns were promising and high quality ..enough that I might do away with old bubble bag process.
That is, unless I'm processing a mountain of trim (in which case the bubble bags would be brought out
Peace.
Puff_Dragon
Well-Known Member
Glad to be of help
its definitely great for smaller runs.
Then again, the 'jar' can be as big as you can 'man up' to shaking *pictures a 1980's HK movie with Jackie Chan spinning a jar while in the horse stance*
You are basically the 'washing machine'.
I think it was a Zen master who once said: Become one with the washing machine my friend
Puff_Dragon
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FYI -
Just did a run with 10g of a strain called Cheesecake (Chronic x Cheese x White Widow). Bud was dried/cured for about 2.5 / 3 months.
Took pics and have put the final product out to dry.
*NOTE - I did not freeze the bud before running it. It just happened that way
I'll obviously wait till its dried to check weight. Then, I'll post a full summary with pics
I did four washes ..could have done more but I stopped there (so I kept things in a quick time frame)
Just did a run with 10g of a strain called Cheesecake (Chronic x Cheese x White Widow). Bud was dried/cured for about 2.5 / 3 months.
Took pics and have put the final product out to dry.
*NOTE - I did not freeze the bud before running it. It just happened that way
I'll obviously wait till its dried to check weight. Then, I'll post a full summary with pics
I did four washes ..could have done more but I stopped there (so I kept things in a quick time frame)
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Puff_Dragon
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Here we go:
I had used a standard Mason Jar (the first time I attempted this method). But. I have moved to using a slightly wider (plastic, vacuum) jar. The vac seal means I can remove the lid easily with one hand (and I can make a partial vacuum by simply sucking the air out of the jar, through the vacuum hose hole, with my mouth
The simple sieves I have used (you could get better/finer ones).
This run, I only used the two large sieves (to run the mix through). I did use the fine sieve, if I noticed any 'green' floating in the mix (after passing through the other two sieves).
Jugs for capturing the concentrate (after passing through the sieves)
I have added a few steps here and there. Hopefully its not too convoluted and you can take it/experiment where you want to.
Method:
1. Using scissors, cut up the buds (to facilitate head removal) into the jar.
2. Then add Ice and some water to the mix (I used 500ML of water - a small spring water bottle size). The water was all cooled in the fridge overnight..
Did a quick temp. check:
3 minutes in the freezer helped drop things to 33/35 Celsius (any lower and ice crystals begin to form inside the jar
35c and ready for some shaking. Advise having some cooking gloves (keeps things cold and your fingers warm!)
Shake, Rattle and Roll:
At first I avoid 'up and down' motions (in case it is too aggressive and causes 'green'). Although I did increase agitation through the washes (watching the water colour all the time). By the last wash ..I was definety giving it some up and down action! (it didn't draw out much green in the final run anyways).
First wash (5 minutes), on the horizontal plain -
I'll swiftly move the jar in a continual figure eight pattern (think 'infinity symbol').
Other motions:
A fast forwards and backwards motion will cause the mix to spin inside the jar. Do that, and also rotate in circles (always on the horizontal plain).
Reverse the directions.
You can also quickly interchange directions, this seemed to cause the ice to collide with more green matter.
From those basics, you'll find your own preferred methods to add
At minute 4 mark; I put the jar in the freezer for a few minutes.
Then, about one more minute of shaking before 'sieving'.
First wash, after 5 minutes of shaking:
While water is still spinning, I open the jar and pour through sieves. Once mix is in the sieves, I do a quick wash of the jar and then run
fridge cold water over the mix in the sieve (to grab some of the bound up heads)
Next, I scoop out the majority of the mix (from the sieve) with the jar. The rest, I use a spoon (tapping the side of the sieve to release any difficult green matter).
"There be gold in the pan!"
And so we reach the ten picture limit. On to the next post
I had used a standard Mason Jar (the first time I attempted this method). But. I have moved to using a slightly wider (plastic, vacuum) jar. The vac seal means I can remove the lid easily with one hand (and I can make a partial vacuum by simply sucking the air out of the jar, through the vacuum hose hole, with my mouth
The simple sieves I have used (you could get better/finer ones).
This run, I only used the two large sieves (to run the mix through). I did use the fine sieve, if I noticed any 'green' floating in the mix (after passing through the other two sieves).
Jugs for capturing the concentrate (after passing through the sieves)
I have added a few steps here and there. Hopefully its not too convoluted and you can take it/experiment where you want to.
Method:
1. Using scissors, cut up the buds (to facilitate head removal) into the jar.
2. Then add Ice and some water to the mix (I used 500ML of water - a small spring water bottle size). The water was all cooled in the fridge overnight..
Did a quick temp. check:
3 minutes in the freezer helped drop things to 33/35 Celsius (any lower and ice crystals begin to form inside the jar
35c and ready for some shaking. Advise having some cooking gloves (keeps things cold and your fingers warm!)
Shake, Rattle and Roll:
At first I avoid 'up and down' motions (in case it is too aggressive and causes 'green'). Although I did increase agitation through the washes (watching the water colour all the time). By the last wash ..I was definety giving it some up and down action! (it didn't draw out much green in the final run anyways).
First wash (5 minutes), on the horizontal plain -
I'll swiftly move the jar in a continual figure eight pattern (think 'infinity symbol').
Other motions:
A fast forwards and backwards motion will cause the mix to spin inside the jar. Do that, and also rotate in circles (always on the horizontal plain).
Reverse the directions.
You can also quickly interchange directions, this seemed to cause the ice to collide with more green matter.
From those basics, you'll find your own preferred methods to add
At minute 4 mark; I put the jar in the freezer for a few minutes.
Then, about one more minute of shaking before 'sieving'.
First wash, after 5 minutes of shaking:
While water is still spinning, I open the jar and pour through sieves. Once mix is in the sieves, I do a quick wash of the jar and then run
fridge cold water over the mix in the sieve (to grab some of the bound up heads)
Next, I scoop out the majority of the mix (from the sieve) with the jar. The rest, I use a spoon (tapping the side of the sieve to release any difficult green matter).
"There be gold in the pan!"
And so we reach the ten picture limit. On to the next post
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Puff_Dragon
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Refill jar with 500ML of fridge cold water and its on to the second wash. Wash was approx. 8 minutes this time (with two brief stays in the freezer). Here was the result of the second wash (also, notice the foam on top is less dense than the first wash)
Put mix in jar, refill jar with 500ML of fridge cold water and its on to the third wash.
Wash was approx. 5 minutes (with one stay in the freezer). Here was the result of the third wash (the foam on top was about the same as the second wash - maybe slightly less dense overall)
Put mix in jar again, refill jar with 500ML of fridge cold water and its on to the fourth wash.
Wash was approx. 8 minutes (with two stays in the freezer). Here I did use some 'up and down' motions ..and experimented with some aggressive agitation. Here was the result of the fourth wash. The foam on top was quite tall but also less dense than washes 1 and 2. The water was also greener than previous washes. Here seemed the right place to stop.
Sadly this pic was blurred (serves me right for not checking went I took it).
From left to right;
first jug is washes one and two combined (the water colour was medium brown)
middle jug is wash three, this one was more a light green (with a little light brown colour in there too)
End jug, is wash four. This jug was slightly more green then wash three ..I assume this trend would continue with further washes.
Filtering with bags:
First time I used a 90 micron bag and a 25 micron bag. This time, I opted for a 160 and 120 (as my filters) and then I ran the filtered water through a 25 micron bag (to capture). I spray washed through each bag this time (to make sure I caught as much as possible AND to clean the final product in the 25 micron bag).
OK, I admit I missed taking a pic of the 160 bag but trust me ..it was green, cooking grade I guess you could call it.
The 120 look 'ok' (yellowish) and formed into 'balls'. So, I simply inverted the bag and washed the contents on the 120 mesh into the filtered water below
And here we have the 25 micron capture bag. Here I'm just rinsing water over it a few time (with a spray nozzle). This helps clean the final product (also highlights any larger particles of green that may be present).
A close up, of that gooey goodness.
So there were a few small particles of green, but I left them in. As it was all bud ..maybe ithey will add flavour when the hash cures (another experiment
And here we are all scooped out onto a 25 micron drying sheet. I did a little light dabbing with kitchen paper to dry of the product some (sorry to the purists).
Finally, I placed in the freezer for 5 minutes. Then, chopped it fine with a knife and placed in a warm, sunny spot (covered) for 12 hours
And now ...I must go and check if it has dried. Its been about twelve hours right now
*Stay Tuned*
Put mix in jar, refill jar with 500ML of fridge cold water and its on to the third wash.
Wash was approx. 5 minutes (with one stay in the freezer). Here was the result of the third wash (the foam on top was about the same as the second wash - maybe slightly less dense overall)
Put mix in jar again, refill jar with 500ML of fridge cold water and its on to the fourth wash.
Wash was approx. 8 minutes (with two stays in the freezer). Here I did use some 'up and down' motions ..and experimented with some aggressive agitation. Here was the result of the fourth wash. The foam on top was quite tall but also less dense than washes 1 and 2. The water was also greener than previous washes. Here seemed the right place to stop.
Sadly this pic was blurred (serves me right for not checking went I took it).
From left to right;
first jug is washes one and two combined (the water colour was medium brown)
middle jug is wash three, this one was more a light green (with a little light brown colour in there too)
End jug, is wash four. This jug was slightly more green then wash three ..I assume this trend would continue with further washes.
Filtering with bags:
First time I used a 90 micron bag and a 25 micron bag. This time, I opted for a 160 and 120 (as my filters) and then I ran the filtered water through a 25 micron bag (to capture). I spray washed through each bag this time (to make sure I caught as much as possible AND to clean the final product in the 25 micron bag).
OK, I admit I missed taking a pic of the 160 bag
but trust me ..it was green, cooking grade I guess you could call it.The 120 look 'ok' (yellowish) and formed into 'balls'. So, I simply inverted the bag and washed the contents on the 120 mesh into the filtered water below
And here we have the 25 micron capture bag. Here I'm just rinsing water over it a few time (with a spray nozzle). This helps clean the final product (also highlights any larger particles of green that may be present).
A close up, of that gooey goodness.
So there were a few small particles of green, but I left them in. As it was all bud ..maybe ithey will add flavour when the hash cures (another experiment
And here we are all scooped out onto a 25 micron drying sheet. I did a little light dabbing with kitchen paper to dry of the product some (sorry to the purists).
Finally, I placed in the freezer for 5 minutes. Then, chopped it fine with a knife and placed in a warm, sunny spot (covered) for 12 hours
And now ...I must go and check if it has dried. Its been about twelve hours right now
*Stay Tuned*
Puff_Dragon
Well-Known Member
So the final results are in. And, because I used 10 grams of starting material, it makes things nice and easy to calculate
I hear the mantra of "10% product" can be heard resonating through the forums of the 'interwebz'. In Four washes (approx. 30 mins) and a quick clean up we got:
7% returns.
Not bad for a second attempt ..the first where I actually analysed it more. And for the amount I ran, not bad either I feel
I could have been more conservative during the clean up (I know I left a bit on the 25 micron bag ..but, hey). I think, all in all, it wasn't bad. The method can be refined (maybe wash times increased). A fun little venture though.
Please give it a try yourselves
Now I'm off to boil some water, nab a clear wine bottle (and some food grade plastic sheets) ..so I can get to pressing
Peace.
I hear the mantra of "10% product" can be heard resonating through the forums of the 'interwebz'. In Four washes (approx. 30 mins) and a quick clean up we got:
7% returns.
Not bad for a second attempt ..the first where I actually analysed it more. And for the amount I ran, not bad either I feel
I could have been more conservative during the clean up (I know I left a bit on the 25 micron bag ..but, hey). I think, all in all, it wasn't bad. The method can be refined (maybe wash times increased). A fun little venture though.
Please give it a try yourselves
Now I'm off to boil some water, nab a clear wine bottle (and some food grade plastic sheets) ..so I can get to pressing
Peace.