Bubblelicious Med CFL SOG

EpyxN

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2x 42w & 2x 26w are still to be added to the area, this will happen when the rest of the clones are added.

so total lumens for the area will be 28400 & area is 3.4sq ft roughly (base area not including height since cfl can't penetrate worth crap). so thats an avg of 8k+ lumens per sq ft. This will probably only apply to the inner 2 rows of 2 liters. The outside edge 2 liters will only get around 5.5k - 6k per sq ft.

the same 400w with hps would produce 21,600 more lumen's than the current CFL setup fyi. So is less heat, cheap bulbs & literally the ability to grow anywhere worth the loss of 21,600 lumen's? We will see.. :)

Things are looking good, technically some of the plants have been in flower for 7 days now & there stretching has been very very minimal, hopefully this continues.
 

LimitedTimer

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do your bulbs actually run cooler with the wiring method?

i have mine on Y spliters and if my fan fallso utta my outtake...( fuckin shitty ducttape)

my temp will EASILY get to 96 degree's from loosing 1 outake , (leaving 1 intake and 1 outtake still on the box..)

i even now have a fan blowing on the light fixture...still is hot any suggestions ?
 

slinger36s

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Just a little flower area info.

(and yes i haven't made reflectors, maybe when they get there perms ill make something :p

Air intake is just a O shaped whole up in the right hand corner & also a 1/2" slit that goes from the center of the front bottom to the back (its on the floor.)
Also in this corner is a small fan pointing diagnal down the the left hand corner.



Exhaust is just a good PC Fan. Air is cycled through the area faster than it can become too warm. so airflow is pretty good.



Area left/right/top/bottom & back are lined with a thin clear layer of plastic.
Front doors have black foam lining the area's doors edge and create a light seal & air seal.



The floor of the flowering area has a 1/2" wide opening that goes from the front of the box to the back of the box exactly centered in the area. Below the 1/2" gap is a peice of plastic in a U pattern so that all excess water drainage from the flower area drains through 1/2" crack into the U shape plastic then directly to the houses drainage foundation. (this also serves as another air intake, air pulled into the area from here is much cooler since it is drawing cool temp's from the houses foundation :p

2x 42w & 2x 26w are still to be added to the area, this will happen when the rest of the clones are added.
just a hint, keep a constant watch for mold with the plants being that close to the houses main drainage;)
 

Jrankin89

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you could stick a couple of frozen water bottles in there, stick em in something so there's no water damage from condensation. you could even use a few if its too hot...:fire: good luck :D
 

EpyxN

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The PC fan does more than enough to kill the heat :)

Ya theres no mold thank god, the floor under the flower area & the entire inside of the flower area are painted with acrylic white mold deterrent paint & a waterproofing mold resistant white paint. (The inside of the box is lined with 1 solid sheet of clear plastic, except for the front. The doors edges are all sealed with black lightproof foam.

The PC fan can pull more air than i am allowing it to :p so with that much airflow long term moisture accumulation shouldn't be a problem :) I am actually surprised how much air this pc fan can circulate. (it was from an alien led open sided tower). You can put your hand back where the fan is blowing out and its just hot air but inside the flowering area its nice and cool. When the doors are closed the fan definitely creates a vacuum inside the flowering area :)

Great looking out though man. :)

I should have wrote all the info eh :/ lol.

Def ty though, if I didn't know and you didn't tell me i could have ended up 3 weeks till harvest with a crop of slime. :p
 

Jrankin89

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i would love to see more.. could you possibly use a better camera??? i want to see this grow with good detailed pics, lol if not, then.... :-( oh well lol but mabey you can borrow someone else's :lol:
 

EpyxN

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do your bulbs actually run cooler with the wiring method?

i have mine on Y spliters and if my fan fallso utta my outtake...( fuckin shitty ducttape)

my temp will EASILY get to 96 degree's from loosing 1 outake , (leaving 1 intake and 1 outtake still on the box..)

i even now have a fan blowing on the light fixture...still is hot any suggestions ?
(if i don't make sense please excuse me, a lil tired & a lil baked :p )

the only reason I am able to keep this area extremely cool with all the lights in there is because of it being pretty air sealed so when my exhaust fan is on all area's old air is being pushed out as new air is pulled in from 2 intakes 1 in opposite corner and about 1 1/2" sq & the other in the center of the floor thats about 1/2"x16".

without a good seal it just pulls air from wherever gives the least resistance to its vacuum.

i would love to see more.. could you possibly use a better camera??? i want to see this grow with good detailed pics, lol if not, then.... :-( oh well lol but mabey you can borrow someone else's :lol:
lol. i'll try and take better pics but as for borrowing & def buying a good one, out of the question at this point :p lol But i'll post better pics when things start picking up. Trying to get good pics with this cheap cam at this point would just be a waste of time :) But i will have better pics when things get moving along.
 

LimitedTimer

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i cant vaccumm seal my room.....
soooooooooooo, i moved it over a air vent and now have an intake of 70 degree air it works other then i have to arrange my plants funny to not freeze my roots (or make them take the 70 D air directly) my CFL's run hot sometimes...others not...i dunno wtf they are up too....
 

EpyxN

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i cant vaccumm seal my room.....
soooooooooooo, i moved it over a air vent and now have an intake of 70 degree air it works other then i have to arrange my plants funny to not freeze my roots (or make them take the 70 D air directly) my CFL's run hot sometimes...others not...i dunno wtf they are up too....
Ya they get pretty damn hot.
 

dontcopnone

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Lookin' good! Goes to show you how resilient our plants can be. Those clones started out looking pretty bad. Very nice recovery.
 

EpyxN

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Ya I am pretty amazed that as many have made a recovery as there has been. 75% of all the current clones are no more than an inch tall with 2-4 nodes.I am crossing my fingers that initial stretching will be minimal. There is still around 6 or so plants that will be replaced, possibly a few more. The clones that will be replacing & filling the remaining part of the area are from only 2 plants. These 2 plants are the 2 that have shown the tightest inter node spacing & had the best overall growth while in veg.

Most of the clones are looking like they are starting to bunch up @ the top shoot. If mass hairs are visible within 3 days and the plant's have not stretched significantly then it will be looking very promising that i just may reach my end goal of 1g per watt.
 

EpyxN

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Day 6

So far the clones have kept a very tight inter nodal spacing. Inter nodal spacing is no more than 1/4" on any plant. Most inter nodal spacing is way smaller than that.
The tallest clone in the area is only currently like 2" tall and has very tight inter nodal spacing.

The clones I took are taking longer than expected due to the fact that they are finishing up there rooting in 12/12. but this way they will be just a few days behind in there flowering. (time wise, not actual development).
Hopefully very soon the flowering area will be full... Either way wet & dry weight will be given for the Full area when harvest time has come.

Pictures

I will start taking better photo's soon. I only have a cheep $20 crap camera and taking good pics with it is an art form :p once the clones start showing there hair filled tops I will start putting an effort into providing better pictures for the journal. This shouldn't be too far away. There almost ready to start showing there hairy tops :)





The plant below on the right is the largest in the area. It's maybe 2" tall and is more than 2x taller than most of the clones is the area.
 

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Droxster

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Sweet ass grow man!!! What is the Strain again???
Real Sweet little SOG....plzzz post bud porn lol!!!!
Just keep ya eye on'em Epy and they should be good smoke:bigjoint:
 
you sound as though you have done this once or twice...Question for you quys. I have area for 8x8 SOG using 4 400W hsp. how many plants can I fit? I am thinking 1 per Square foot or 64 plants. how fast can I flower these and what do you think is a reasonable dry gram weight per plant?? thanks
 

EpyxN

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Strain type is Bubblelicious from Nirvana.



you sound as though you have done this once or twice...Question for you quys. I have area for 8x8 SOG using 4 400W hsp. how many plants can I fit? I am thinking 1 per Square foot or 64 plants. how fast can I flower these and what do you think is a reasonable dry gram weight per plant?? thanks
Optimal area coverage for a 400w hps is 36sq ft (just fyi).

Depending on what type of style sog you end up going with will decide on how many plants. If your going to veg or start with 5 inch clones than 1per sq ft is probably best considering you will have some bottom branching with little colas.

If you start with clones that only have 1/2" or so growth above the soil & 0 veg time OMG you can fit Soooooo many more than 64plants.

But its totally up to personal choice & depends on how a strain buds when doing 0 veg clone to done. 1 per sq ft is probably the standard when it comes to sog.
 

CannaGuy

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Man this stuff is the best ganja ever! Have so many fond but long-lost memories of trance parties on this stuff. Growing it is tough - only tried it once.

Bummer about your contaminated rocksoil man. But I found that unless you get it just right these plants generally only produce a few nugs each. Still well worth it.

We've got a full review of bubblelicious here.
 

EpyxN

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Man this stuff is the best ganja ever! Have so many fond but long-lost memories of trance parties on this stuff. Growing it is tough - only tried it once.

Bummer about your contaminated rocksoil man. But I found that unless you get it just right these plants generally only produce a few nugs each. Still well worth it.

We've got a full review of bubblelicious here.
cool i just checked it out :) ya there finicky lil bastards every so often but they do tend to be really forgiving.
I def would not say the strain is hard to grow, in fact its just the opposit, it is rather really easy to grow and real forgiving on its nutes. (At least during veg. But the amount my pretty much dead wilted clones have bounced back shows how resilient this strain is :) )

Hopefully i will be able to dial into the sweet spot for nutes & environment while its flowering. As compact as the inter nodal spacing is a nice sized cola should be very possible.
 
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