Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

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Bob Smith

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Twils said:
Damn Bob that sucks man!

Great progress though on getting things, set in a way of being permanent so you don't have to fiddle fart around with it later on down the road!

I had been doing quite a bit of painting for a while on guns and other things I made like DWC Cloner and things like that. I've personally found a touch of love for the Krylon Camouflage Ultra-Flat spray paint, with Fusion (for plastic) technology. This stuff is great! After priming and 2 coats of black she's light proof, VERY Chip resistant (I camo my guns for the seasons or where I'm hunting, and beating them up in the woods looks about the same as the day I painted them) It bonds to plastic without sanding or priming (although I personally prime everything)

With the Krylon Ultra-Flat Primer spray paint with Fusion technology, and the Krylon Camouflage Ultra-Flat spray paint you would be looking good its not very expensive either, about .50 more I think than normal enamel spray paints.

For your T fittings and stuff light that for plumbing grab it all at home depot, while your getting more buckets. :blsmoke: The T Fittings and grommits should be near the lawn care section, where their sprinkler systems and stuff are. All that stuff seems to be the exact same (I bet they get it at depot and jack the price up at the hydro store (at least the one I go to lol))

Rather get all them set backs out of the way, so in the long run can gogogo!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
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A couple of questions - firstly, I only got a white primer and a white flat paint - do I need to use a black spray paint to truly make it light proof, or will three or four coats with only white do the same?

Also, any issues with the paint ever leeching into your water and killing plants? Hadn't thought about that too much, any issues that you've ever had with it?

Thanks for your feedback, bro, it's very much appreciated.
 
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Bob Smith

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Integra21 said:
Krylon Fusion for plastic works the best you can do it in a gloss finish. Gloss just makes the paint more durable and scratch resistant. Recomend putting on a light first coat and then 2 fairly heavy coats. You can ususally do 2-3 buckets per can of paint. The cheap .99c a can flat also works fine, you just have to touch up more often.
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Integra, are those three coats that you're referring to all white coats? Or do you use a darker color first to ensure that it's light tight?
 
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Twils

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Bob Smith said:
A couple of questions - firstly, I only got a white primer and a white flat paint - do I need to use a black spray paint to truly make it light proof, or will three or four coats with only white do the same?

Also, any issues with the paint ever leeching into your water and killing plants? Hadn't thought about that too much, any issues that you've ever had with it?

Thanks for your feedback, bro, it's very much appreciated.
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Generally I've used like a gray primer, then a dark coat, then a white coat or 2 to finish it off.. I'm sure with 3 or 4 good coats of white you should be alright though!

I never really had any problems with the paint leeching through the plastic into the water or anything like that.. I've also spent quite a bit of time with this stuff rubbing on my face and near my mouth and nose and seem to have no ill effect from it (as far as I can tell, some might say different though! haha!)

Keep it going brother!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
 
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Integra21

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Bob Smith said:
Integra, are those three coats that you're referring to all white coats? Or do you use a darker color first to ensure that it's light tight?
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I use just black on the res and only spray the outside so there is no chance for chemical leech. I do an additional 2 coats of gloss white on the lids to make them hold up to chemicals better and be reflective. Hope the rebuild goes swiftly. Keep up the good work.
 
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Bob Smith

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Thanks for the kind words guys; gonna run to Home Depot and grab some black spray paint after I put the first coat of primer on.
 
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Bob Smith

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So, looks like the system won't be up and running until either later on tonight or (more likely) tomorrow, depending on the feedback I get with regards to drying time - the can says that "dry in one hour and fully dry in 24 hours" - how long do you guys let it dry before you start working on it and exposing it to water? An answer to that question would be quite helpful, but in the meantime where I stand is as follows:

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Have already put one coat of primer and two coats of black paint (second coat should be dry in about a half hour to an hour), and I could just call it a day and install the "T" fittings (as they're now light-proof), but since it's taken me this long, figure I might as well do it "right" and spray paint both the tops and the bottoms with flat white for more reflectivity to ensure that water temps never get too high. Not sure if I'm gonna do one coat of white or two, as I'm already pretty nauseous from the fumes in that enclosed garage.

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This bad boy got delivered today, which is always nice.

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This is the Co2/temp/humidity sensor for it.

So, that's about it - gonna check on the buckets in a bit, and if they're dry, start on the coat or two of white paint - in the meantime, if someone could lemme know how long they let the paint dry before it's "safe" to work with them, that'd be awesome.
 
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Integra21

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I reccomend letting them sit and dry overnight before any serious handling. Ensures you wont scratch it off while its dry but still soft. Nice controller, I'm saving up for the same one my self. How much did it run you? I found it a a store for $520, was the best price I could find. You're hooking it up to a tank right?
 
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Bob Smith

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Integra21 said:
I reccomend letting them sit and dry overnight before any serious handling. Ensures you wont scratch it off while its dry but still soft. Nice controller, I'm saving up for the same one my self. How much did it run you? I found it a a store for $520, was the best price I could find. You're hooking it up to a tank right?
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Yeah, unfortunately I'm gonna have to let them dry overnight, methinks.

As far as the controller goes, I got mine for $509 delivered off of eBay.

I had to pay $20 more though to make it worth my hydro store's time to order it for me (I never get that stuff delivered or pay with a CC).

Just pay the hydro store cash and they email me when it gets delivered.
 
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Integra21

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Bob Smith said:
Yeah, unfortunately I'm gonna have to let them dry overnight, methinks.

As far as the controller goes, I got mine for $509 delivered off of eBay.

I had to pay $20 more though to make it worth my hydro store's time to order it for me (I never get that stuff delivered or pay with a CC).

Just pay the hydro store cash and they email me when it gets delivered.
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Never thought to ask them that. They even have ebay stores that will buy things for you. I'll have to check into it.
 
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Twils

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Bob Smith said:
I single-handedly keep that store afloat, so I've got some nice leverage.
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Good times right there brother!

like Integra said I'd let them dry 24 hours at least before messing with them, I personally let anything plastic I paint dry for 24-48 hours in a 75-80degree low humidity environment.

Looking great Bob!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
 
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Bob Smith

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Twils said:
Good times right there brother!

like Integra said I'd let them dry 24 hours at least before messing with them, I personally let anything plastic I paint dry for 24-48 hours in a 75-80degree low humidity environment.

Looking great Bob!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
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Yeah, in a perfect world I'd let it dry for two days-ish, but my plants have now been sitting a couple of feet from a single weak fluorescent bulb, so I'm trying to get them back into my veg tent ASAP.

Hoping (and assuming) that overnight will be fine, especially as the paint's on the outside and shouldn't be getting wet.

Oh well, like so many other things, time will tell.
 
Twils

Twils

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Bob Smith said:
Yeah, in a perfect world I'd let it dry for two days-ish, but my plants have now been sitting a couple of feet from a single weak fluorescent bulb, so I'm trying to get them back into my veg tent ASAP.

Hoping (and assuming) that overnight will be fine, especially as the paint's on the outside and shouldn't be getting wet.

Oh well, like so many other things, time will tell.
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I hear ya there Bob! Maybe put them next to a heater (but not too close) over night, would help a LOT! With the Krylon paint I've noticed after about 1 week full dry, this sh*t is hard to chip and pretty durable!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
 
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Bob Smith

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Twils said:
I hear ya there Bob! Maybe put them next to a heater (but not too close) over night, would help a LOT! With the Krylon paint I've noticed after about 1 week full dry, this sh*t is hard to chip and pretty durable!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
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Yeah, in hindsight a heater would've been a great call...............man, working with paint sucks, I'd rather tape up all the buckets with aluminum tape than paint.

This sucks.
 
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Twils

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Bob Smith said:
Yeah, in hindsight a heater would've been a great call...............man, working with paint sucks, I'd rather tape up all the buckets with aluminum tape than paint.

This sucks.
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I'm having one of those nights too.... Been up all night working on this new drip system for my mama's.. needless to say its a total FAILURE, I'll be heading back to wally world and home depot this morning to return everything :-?

Burn on brother~:peace:bongsmilie
 
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Bob Smith

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Twils said:
I'm having one of those nights too.... Been up all night working on this new drip system for my mama's.. needless to say its a total FAILURE, I'll be heading back to wally world and home depot this morning to return everything :-?

Burn on brother~:peace:bongsmilie
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Lol, only one failure? C'mon, that's nothing :P...........I just finished my second complete failure; well not complete, as the system works and is actually pretty sick, if I do say so myself - just a couple of leaky buckets stopping it from being finished.

Did have a thought, though - gonna seal each grommet with aquarium sealant this third time (and every time going forward, if it works) - figure that SHOULD stop the leaks.

I'll post the pics of my newest system shortly, and am going to head to Pet Smart at some point today to grab some aquarium sealant (hopefully they have a quicky-dry variety).

Damn, this shit is really, really testing my patience.

Too far along to quit now, although this must be close to the flattest learning curve in the history of DIY systems.
 
Twils

Twils

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Bob Smith said:
Lol, only one failure? C'mon, that's nothing :P...........I just finished my second complete failure; well not complete, as the system works and is actually pretty sick, if I do say so myself - just a couple of leaky buckets stopping it from being finished.

Did have a thought, though - gonna seal each grommet with aquarium sealant this third time (and every time going forward, if it works) - figure that SHOULD stop the leaks.

I'll post the pics of my newest system shortly, and am going to head to Pet Smart at some point today to grab some aquarium sealant (hopefully they have a quicky-dry variety).

Damn, this shit is really, really testing my patience.

Too far along to quit now, although this must be close to the flattest learning curve in the history of DIY systems.
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Ok bro you win!

Can't wait to see the new system set up!

Great idea with the aquarium sealant, sounds like it should work like a charm!

Just wait until your finished though, its going to feel so good, and you can sit back and look at it and be like fuck yeah!!

Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
 
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