Twils
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I think they will do just fine! Its like telling a crackhead they can't have crack.. Those ladies are gonna go ape sh*t!
Burn on!
Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC
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Burn on!
Title says it all, waiting for my damn filter to give me some more water..........in the meantime, some more setup.......
The bamboo stakes came 6' tall, so I chopped them all in half - have about 150 now - thinking that's plenty (for now
).
Moved my tent about a 1' off of the wall (was flush before) - figure even though I'm a beast and can reach across the 4' tray, might as well make things as easy as possible to access the plants in the back.
Filter came, much larger then I thought it'd be - had to mount it to the wall, and my studs run vertically, so I had to attach a 2x4 to mount the filter to.
The first three pics are setting up the filter and then testing it out; the fourth is the filter running, with the trash can closest catching the runoff and the can further from the filter catching the pure water (the blue hose).
Stuff I picked up today - a 400GPH pump for the tray, because I'd rather use my 630GPH pump for changeouts and whatnot.
Some more foil tape to finish taping up the rez.
Some Floranova Bloom to officially start the Lucas formula.
Finally, some paint mixing sticks - free at Home Depot, and I think they're going to make great water level checkers - the rez is so dark that it's hard to tell, so as I fill it today, I'm going to make marks on the sticks in five gallon increments.
Some pics of the plants - cramped as hell, they could all use a little more space (which they'll have quite shortly, hopefully).
Finally, the largest taping job in the history of man - this took forever, but it's done.
So, that's about it until the ladies go into their new home.
Comments, questions, and suggestions welcome (as always).
The bamboo stakes came 6' tall, so I chopped them all in half - have about 150 now - thinking that's plenty (for now
).Moved my tent about a 1' off of the wall (was flush before) - figure even though I'm a beast and can reach across the 4' tray, might as well make things as easy as possible to access the plants in the back.
Filter came, much larger then I thought it'd be - had to mount it to the wall, and my studs run vertically, so I had to attach a 2x4 to mount the filter to.
The first three pics are setting up the filter and then testing it out; the fourth is the filter running, with the trash can closest catching the runoff and the can further from the filter catching the pure water (the blue hose).
Stuff I picked up today - a 400GPH pump for the tray, because I'd rather use my 630GPH pump for changeouts and whatnot.
Some more foil tape to finish taping up the rez.
Some Floranova Bloom to officially start the Lucas formula.
Finally, some paint mixing sticks - free at Home Depot, and I think they're going to make great water level checkers - the rez is so dark that it's hard to tell, so as I fill it today, I'm going to make marks on the sticks in five gallon increments.
Some pics of the plants - cramped as hell, they could all use a little more space (which they'll have quite shortly, hopefully).
Finally, the largest taping job in the history of man - this took forever, but it's done.
So, that's about it until the ladies go into their new home.
Comments, questions, and suggestions welcome (as always).
Getting an EC meter ASAP............tired of waiting on the water, so put 20 galllons in and put 25 gallon's worth of nutes in there.
TDS meter came out to 1100, I said "that can't be, the formula gets you to 1300 and I'm lacking 1/5 of the water required".
Then it dawned on me - my TDS meter must have an NaCl conversion (.5) as opposed to what I moronically assumed it had, (.7).
Well, thankfully nothing too catastrophic came of this, but it certainly helps explain the little nute problem that developed in the past couple of days.
The good news is, after putting the nutes in (no pH down), the pH is sitting right at 5.5. Figure another five gallons should put it right at 5.8, which is absolutely fucking beautiful.
Sorry for the delay, but I'm suffering just like everyone else - patience is not my strongest virtue.
EDIT: Lol.............looked at the back of my TDS meter and it clearly says "Calibrate with NaCl"..............Jesus...............also, added another five gallons of water, and the TDS is 900 (EC of 1.8, we now know
) and the pH is ch-ch-ch-chillin' at 5.6 
TDS meter came out to 1100, I said "that can't be, the formula gets you to 1300 and I'm lacking 1/5 of the water required".
Then it dawned on me - my TDS meter must have an NaCl conversion (.5) as opposed to what I moronically assumed it had, (.7).
Well, thankfully nothing too catastrophic came of this, but it certainly helps explain the little nute problem that developed in the past couple of days.
The good news is, after putting the nutes in (no pH down), the pH is sitting right at 5.5. Figure another five gallons should put it right at 5.8, which is absolutely fucking beautiful.
Sorry for the delay, but I'm suffering just like everyone else - patience is not my strongest virtue.
EDIT: Lol.............looked at the back of my TDS meter and it clearly says "Calibrate with NaCl"..............Jesus...............also, added another five gallons of water, and the TDS is 900 (EC of 1.8, we now know
) and the pH is ch-ch-ch-chillin' at 5.6 
Quick update - the clones are doing okay, but in hindsight, should've not filled the two gallon pots up all the way - some of the smaller root systems don't reach down into the flood zone, so I've been hand watering a couple (planning to be done with that in a day, maybe two).
Also, the reservoir was leaking from one end when I filled it to the tippy top (40 gallons, even though it's called a 50 gallon tote), so it seems as though I'm gonna have to go with about 30ish gallons for the time being (an issue because with the table only half-filled, there's barely enough water to reach the overflow valve).
Lost a clone that I knocked off last night onto the ground and didn't see until an hour ago, shriveled up on the ground (was letting five of them veg for another day or two in the bubbler to get their roots stronger/longer).
Other then that, things seem to be going well - timer's running at 2, 5, 8, and 11 for ten minutes each time (those times are both am and pm while they're vegging).
Definite new growth is already noticeable, I'm gonna try to take pics each day (with some measurements) to document their vegging speed - I guess I'll start with the measurements now (just thought of that as I typed this).
Reservoir is currently at 1.9EC with a pH of 5.6.
Temp is 80 at sensor level, so about 75 at plant height.
CO2 varies between 1400-1600 PPM, humidity is between 50-60%.
Annoyed that I didn't re-wash the hydroton before I transplanted - evidently washing it a week or two ago doesn't preclude oodles and oodles of dust from building up in the interim - need to wash right before I use it for the next batch (nasty hydroton dust is all over the flood table).
Pics are probably not coming tonight because I might be heading to dinner and a movie with Ms. Smith (in which case I'll have the full pic update tomorrow).
All in all, I feel "meh" about it - not pleased about the reservoir leaking, not pleased about having to hand water, and not pleased about the hydroton dust getting everywhere.
I give it a 6.5 out of 10 so far.
Also, the reservoir was leaking from one end when I filled it to the tippy top (40 gallons, even though it's called a 50 gallon tote), so it seems as though I'm gonna have to go with about 30ish gallons for the time being (an issue because with the table only half-filled, there's barely enough water to reach the overflow valve).
Lost a clone that I knocked off last night onto the ground and didn't see until an hour ago, shriveled up on the ground (was letting five of them veg for another day or two in the bubbler to get their roots stronger/longer).
Other then that, things seem to be going well - timer's running at 2, 5, 8, and 11 for ten minutes each time (those times are both am and pm while they're vegging).
Definite new growth is already noticeable, I'm gonna try to take pics each day (with some measurements) to document their vegging speed - I guess I'll start with the measurements now (just thought of that as I typed this).
Reservoir is currently at 1.9EC with a pH of 5.6.
Temp is 80 at sensor level, so about 75 at plant height.
CO2 varies between 1400-1600 PPM, humidity is between 50-60%.
Annoyed that I didn't re-wash the hydroton before I transplanted - evidently washing it a week or two ago doesn't preclude oodles and oodles of dust from building up in the interim - need to wash right before I use it for the next batch (nasty hydroton dust is all over the flood table).
Pics are probably not coming tonight because I might be heading to dinner and a movie with Ms. Smith (in which case I'll have the full pic update tomorrow).
All in all, I feel "meh" about it - not pleased about the reservoir leaking, not pleased about having to hand water, and not pleased about the hydroton dust getting everywhere.
I give it a 6.5 out of 10 so far.
wonderblunder
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Sounds like things are going all right there. Hope those problems get cleared up. I just did a lot of work in my room. Take a look at my last pic update in my journal. Added 800 watts......
Seems like the plants are getting acclimated, they're not drooping anymore from the watering...........also, the water level is now higher since I felt comfortable filling the reservoir up to 35 gallons (put the side that leaks on the "high" side, so I think I'm okay).
Also, I believe I overestimated the speed with which these plants would veg - there are about six with much more developed root systems that are taking off, but the majority (there's 17 in there now) are gonna take a couple of days to get a sufficient root system before they start taking off - shockingly enough, this pushes my flowering date back yet again - now shooting for the 25th of November (giving myself a little fudge room so I hopefully won't have to push it back again).
Anyways, that's the gist (also the pump seems to be working fine, even with the hydro dust that has undoubtedly been hitting it - seems as though the dust settles in the middle of the table, so I've been removing some every time I go out there (hoping to get most gone within the next couple of days).
Filled the reservoir using a bucket instead of a pump so that I could mark off on the stick the water level at five gallon increments. The full rez that you see was too full, which led to the leak.
A shot of one of the better-rooted clones, where the reservoir gave out (the handles), and what the water looks like with FloraNova Bloom in it (very, very brown, obviously).
Bizarre root system (actually growing mutated leaves underwater), and the first flood with the 15 clones in there.
Random plant shots from late Tuesday night after they were in there for an hour, nothing special.
Random plant shots from five minutes ago - the larger plants are clearly growing, whereas some of the "slower" ones are still getting their sea legs - seems like I'm just about done with having to top feed, though.
A pic of the sludge around the drain, and a pick of how much the table bows when full - the pic doesn't do it justice, must be a good three or four inches when totally filled.
So that's about that, as always, questions/comments appreciated.
Also, I believe I overestimated the speed with which these plants would veg - there are about six with much more developed root systems that are taking off, but the majority (there's 17 in there now) are gonna take a couple of days to get a sufficient root system before they start taking off - shockingly enough, this pushes my flowering date back yet again - now shooting for the 25th of November (giving myself a little fudge room so I hopefully won't have to push it back again).
Anyways, that's the gist (also the pump seems to be working fine, even with the hydro dust that has undoubtedly been hitting it - seems as though the dust settles in the middle of the table, so I've been removing some every time I go out there (hoping to get most gone within the next couple of days).
Filled the reservoir using a bucket instead of a pump so that I could mark off on the stick the water level at five gallon increments. The full rez that you see was too full, which led to the leak.
A shot of one of the better-rooted clones, where the reservoir gave out (the handles), and what the water looks like with FloraNova Bloom in it (very, very brown, obviously).
Bizarre root system (actually growing mutated leaves underwater), and the first flood with the 15 clones in there.
Random plant shots from late Tuesday night after they were in there for an hour, nothing special.
Random plant shots from five minutes ago - the larger plants are clearly growing, whereas some of the "slower" ones are still getting their sea legs - seems like I'm just about done with having to top feed, though.
A pic of the sludge around the drain, and a pick of how much the table bows when full - the pic doesn't do it justice, must be a good three or four inches when totally filled.
So that's about that, as always, questions/comments appreciated.
SpruceZeus
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I have http://www.canadianwholesalehydroponics.com/products.cfm?p_id=2117&show_details=1&catpage=4 This one.Getting an EC meter ASAP............tired of waiting on the water, so put 20 galllons in and put 25 gallon's worth of nutes in there.
TDS meter came out to 1100, I said "that can't be, the formula gets you to 1300 and I'm lacking 1/5 of the water required".
Then it dawned on me - my TDS meter must have an NaCl conversion (.5) as opposed to what I moronically assumed it had, (.7).
Well, thankfully nothing too catastrophic came of this, but it certainly helps explain the little nute problem that developed in the past couple of days.
The good news is, after putting the nutes in (no pH down), the pH is sitting right at 5.5. Figure another five gallons should put it right at 5.8, which is absolutely fucking beautiful.
Sorry for the delay, but I'm suffering just like everyone else - patience is not my strongest virtue.
EDIT: Lol.............looked at the back of my TDS meter and it clearly says "Calibrate with NaCl"..............Jesus...............also, added another five gallons of water, and the TDS is 900 (EC of 1.8, we now know
It is awesome!!! I've never had any problems with it, super easy to clean. Doesn't need calibrating. If you can't tell, i'm a big fan of this meter!!!
Your grow looks very nice. Consider me subscribed.
Thanks for the link
Also, I'm ecstatic to have you aboard - need another E&F'er as a sounding board for my moronic ideas
Also, the journal's quite verbose and lengthy, but if you wanted to scan it, the pics and captions could probably be done in a pretty quick fashion - I tend to ramble, forgetting that everyone's not as interested in my grow as I am
Again, very happy to have you aboard
A gallon of this shit...........
http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm
I was bored.
Now, anyone have any idea how much of it to use per gallon? Only used the 3% before, never the 35%..................figure it's a necessity if I'm trying to go longer without changing my reservoir.
http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm
I was bored.
Now, anyone have any idea how much of it to use per gallon? Only used the 3% before, never the 35%..................figure it's a necessity if I'm trying to go longer without changing my reservoir.
SpruceZeus
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I consider H202 an integral part of my growing system. Usually run it at 10 ml per 18 gal reservoir every 3 days (a little less than 1 ml per gallon).
However, Now that i have discovered fungus gnats in my roots, I've upped the dosage in that table to about 5 ml per gallon.
SpruceZeus
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BTW, I also use 35%
Again, thanks much - trying to do the Lucas Formula with as few reservoir changes as possible, so figured this would probably come in handy.
Just to clarify, that 10mL per 18 galon rez is really about .5mL/gallon, and you've now upped it to 5mL/gallon, for a total per 18 gallon rez of 90mL?
Am I understanding that correctly?
Just to clarify, that 10mL per 18 galon rez is really about .5mL/gallon, and you've now upped it to 5mL/gallon, for a total per 18 gallon rez of 90mL?
Am I understanding that correctly?
SpruceZeus
Well-Known Member
You are!!
I shouldn't smoke the White Rhino and try to do any sort of math (in all fairness, a little less than 1 could be half =p ). It never works out for me.
Thanks againYou are!!
I shouldn't smoke the White Rhino and try to do any sort of math (in all fairness, a little less than 1 could be half =p ). It never works out for me.
Integra21
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Generically, You use 1tsp/gal for maintience and 1tablespoon/gal for remedy. But remember, it will kill all microbes, good and bad. If you are using any organics in your nutrient soup, don not use h202. Looking great btw Bob. Glad to see you got it all up and running. If you think how fast they're growing now is nuts, give it another week or 2. Once they get 8-12" tall with a decent root ball, they just go nuts, especially with hydro&co2. Cant wait to see these girls take off. How are you liking the Setinel? Still haven't ordered mine yet, but I should be some time mid December. In a months time, you'll forget all the trials and tribulations you went through to get here and you will only see the fantastic results of your labor. Great job and I'm glad you've never gotten too discouraged. If you dont feel comfortable doing it, ok. But I would love to see a video walkthrough of the veg&flower rooms once you get a month or so into flower. If you do, I will to. I just updated my journal last night, if you get bored, check it out. Get a chance to see how fast Mango flowers. Personally, the fastest I've ever seen so far.
Good seeing you, homeboy
As far as organics, you know I stick by the super chem GH Floranova, so no worries on organics being killed - I don't want nuthin' living in my water
And the Sentinel is probably the best investment I've made to this point - plug everything in, set it, and it's perfect - to my knowledge, that tent has not been exhausted since it's been turned on (a day and a half, about) - just the 6" cooling the light and an oscillating fan to keep the air moving in there, and then the 1500PPM of CO2.
Seems like they (the makers, whoever they are) never got around the producing the computer interface for it (at least that's what I've found looking for it), so that's kind of a bummer, as I'd very much like that to chart and see the trends in temps, humidity, etc. over an extended period.
And I've got no problems doing any kind of a video walkthrough at all - I'm pretty bored right now, maybe I'll go give it a shot (not sure how long of videos this digi camera takes, though).
Anyhow, I'll give it a shot and see what I can do.
Also checked out your journal last night - sucks that you've gotta start with new moms, but better safe then sorry, methinks.
But the five minute video I did wouldn't upload to my computer, for some reason - gonna go do a few one minute guys and see what I can do.
EDIT: Integra, PM me an email address if you'd like - have seven ~1 minute videos that walk you through the setup, but it doesn't seem like they'll let me post them (too big, obviously).
If anyone knows of a way to remedy this, I'm all ears.
EDIT: Integra, PM me an email address if you'd like - have seven ~1 minute videos that walk you through the setup, but it doesn't seem like they'll let me post them (too big, obviously).
If anyone knows of a way to remedy this, I'm all ears.
