Bud Candy overpriced garbage?

Aolelon

Aolelon

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Psyphish said:
So instead of buying small bottles of triacontanol based product and Bud Factor X, I should brew my own in my small apartment after sourcing kilos of the shit from some farming supply store? How about I just buy the tiny bottles and enjoy my home grown weed that I only use myself. How exactly do I get scammed in the process? I don't live in a 3rd world country where money is tight.

ps. I don't have a yard or a garage to brew stuff in.
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You can do as you please. You dont have to buy kilos of the shit. They sell alfalfa meal and crab meal in plenty different sizes, ranging from small to large.
I really dont see the point of you even making a post if none of this pertains to you, because as you say, you grow for yourself in a small apartment.
If you can grow a plant, then you definitely have enough space for a micro brewer.
Take a 5 gal bucket, or any size bucket really. Throw some ingredients in it with some water and an airstone and let it sit. It's not hard, nor does it take up more space than whatever size bucket you were using.
I'd be willing to bet you could use a milk jug with the top cut off to brew the shit.
 
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LinguaPeel

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OP works for AN marketing dept I assume. Always mining for new ideas.

Buttcandy makes your bud taste like buttcandy.. Shitty growers love the shit. They use it on a commercial scale in the southwest, growing that weed so dank you can't even smell it. Turns 1 gram of shitty airbud into 1.2 grams of shitty sugar soaked airbud.

They took the mag-sul out long ago, since the people who use this adulterant typically use it at harvest for strongest results (funny that's how all the 0-0-0 ferts work)
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Budzbuddha said:
Don’t forget to drive a nail into base of stalk ...... another “ legend “ tip.


Fed my girls some milk duds , tooty fruity fresh and fruity pancakes , raviolis “O”s and a shot of merlot ....... it didn’t do shit

Keep your cash .
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Also don't forget to put the roots in a pot of boiling water after you yank the plant to push all the resins to the buds.
Psyphish said:
So instead of buying small bottles of triacontanol based product and Bud Factor X, I should brew my own in my small apartment after sourcing kilos of the shit from some farming supply store? How about I just buy the tiny bottles and enjoy my home grown weed that I only use myself. How exactly do I get scammed in the process? I don't live in a 3rd world country where money is tight.

ps. I don't have a yard or a garage to brew stuff in.
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You don't have to brew anything. You can buy chemical salts by the pound and easily mix them with water. Takes a minute or two. Plants grown in a good environment with good basic nutrients will produce just as good as plants that have a bunch of unnecessary additives dumped on them. There is no magic bottle that will replace a good growing environment.

Bud Candy is a waste of money. But it's not my money so have at it.

Good luck and happy growing.
 
ANC

ANC

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I gave my plants a tea this afternoon that I have been steeping for a week, with fermented pot leaves and vermicompost etc in...
Within hours the smell on the plants is incredible... no need for fancy shit.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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ANC said:
I gave my plants a tea this afternoon that I have been steeping for a week, with fermented pot leaves and vermicompost etc in...
Within hours the smell on the plants is incredible... no need for fancy shit.
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Yes, but do you have REPEATABLE easy to reproduce formula's?
At my core I am against water bottle markup but then the "working man" side of me can make the argument for the amount of time being spent mixing powders etc being just as valuable as the $$ spent on a bottled solution.
I guess it all comes down to ones priorities and amount of time available to spend in their garden and also what they value their time at $ wise :peace:
 
ANC

ANC

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Unless people are running climate controlled setups there will never be a standard.
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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OneHitDone said:
"working man" side of me can make the argument for the amount of time being spent mixing powders etc
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Get a blender. Mix anything in under a min. Tea formulas are pretty simple and be scaled from a soda bottle to a huge vat. Don't even need a bunch of stuff to make one.

Its as complicated/simple as someone makes it.

:-)
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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Psyphish said:
So instead of buying small bottles of triacontanol based product and Bud Factor X, I should brew my own in my small apartment after sourcing kilos of the shit from some farming supply store? How about I just buy the tiny bottles and enjoy my home grown weed that I only use myself. How exactly do I get scammed in the process? I don't live in a 3rd world country where money is tight.

ps. I don't have a yard or a garage to brew stuff in.
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TF you talking about? Some of us have run 4x8's, clone setups plus tea and more in 600sq ft apartments.

Spend your bread on whatever you want. Some of us look at cost per oz to produce. I don't see a point to produce bud that costs less to buy retail.

Production costs.
 
charface

charface

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When you add up all the time over years you spend mixing and measuring bottles, its a huge amount of time.

Add in the astronomical cost and the working man in me really enjoys top dressing every few weeks with a pre mixed dry amendment like growilla

Or even mixing a 1 part salt based product once a week
If salts are your thing.
Meaning, stir in two teaspoons per gallon or whatever

I use them all but im phasing out bottles because of the time suck.

Its just not fun anymore.
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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charface said:
When you add up all the time over years you spend mixing and measuring bottles, its a huge amount of time.

Add in the astronomical cost and the working man in me really enjoys top dressing every few weeks with a pre mixed dry amendment like growilla

Or even mixing a 1 part salt based product once a week
If salts are your thing.
Meaning, stir in two teaspoons per gallon or whatever

I use them all but im phasing out bottles because of the time suck.

Its just not fun anymore.
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Yeah, that's why I'm leaning heavy on organics now. Less time spent during the production. I don't have the drive to mix 7-8 bottles, but I have time to mix a 1 gallon Ziploc of dry mix full of all the ingredients that the bottles have at a fraction of the price for top dressing or tea.

;-)
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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xtsho said:
Bud Candy is a waste of money. Just add your own water to these chemical salts and make hundreds of gallons of the same thing for under $40.

5 lbs for under $20



5 lbs for under $20
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Be careful ,do your research or I see a fair few burnt plants .
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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I use canna a/b ,Big Bud from Advanced and PK 13/14 ,all ways grown good plants ,that produce nice amounts of bud ,last a good while.
 
too larry

too larry

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I've been rocking this bloom food for for the last couple of years. Lowe's had a bunch get old, and they gave them to the Re-Store, where I got about 5 bags for 2 bucks a bag. But if I were to run low, I guess I would go the 5 buck for a bag.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sunniland-Bloom-Special-5-lb-Flower-Food/3083897?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-LawnGarden-_-PlantFood-_-3083897:Sunniland&CAWELAID=&kpid=3083897&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=1924&k_clickID=5ba2484b-c17e-4160-a245-6abe82fd4374&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7Izg2tfC3AIVWsDICh2qzguxEAQYBCABEgLokPD_BwE
 
charface

charface

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I will admit I bought into all the hype
And like I have said I still use bottles as well as the other methods.

I think the reason I didn't ditch bottles years ago is that on some level I secretly (even to myself) thought I needed them.

But with the years I have experienced that not being true enough times that Im starting to wake up.

Its a process.
I can't hate on anyone for the method they choose to cling to for the moment.

Now here is the silly part.
My preferred method is organic.
When I know a bucket of salt would do.
.
However, I need to enjoy what I do
And I really enjoy learning all the in's and outs of organic.

I cant expect anyone to just snap out of their mindset INSTANTLY simply because I EVENTUALLY did based on experience.


My hope for people is they try it all then do what pleases them because it all works and If you love what you are doing you will do it better.
 
too larry

too larry

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charface said:
I will admit I bought into all the hype
And like I have said I still use bottles as well as the other methods.

I think the reason I didn't ditch bottles years ago is that on some level I secretly (even to myself) thought I needed them.

But with the years I have experienced that not being true enough times that Im starting to wake up.

Its a process.
I can't hate on anyone for the method they choose to cling to for the moment.

Now here is the silly part.
My preferred method is organic.
When I know a bucket of salt would do.
.
However, I need to enjoy what I do
And I really enjoy learning all the in's and outs of organic.

I cant expect anyone to just snap out of their mindset INSTANTLY simply because I EVENTUALLY did based on experience.


My hope for people is they try it all then do what pleases them because it all works and If you love what you are doing you will do it better.
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I still have a few bottles of liquid MG that I bought a case of real cheap several years ago. Also a couple of containers of the blue powdered stuff. When I have a sick plant, I will give it a dose. Lots of good stuff mixed in with all those salts.
 
charface

charface

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too larry said:
I still have a few bottles of liquid MG that I bought a case of real cheap several years ago. Also a couple of containers of the blue powdered stuff. When I have a sick plant, I will give it a dose. Lots of good stuff mixed in with all those salts.
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Lol, yep when I miss the mark in my organic I can usually hit it with a dose of blue water (salts) and correct it until the issue is resolved.
Followed with a dose of tea to boost the herd and back on track.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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tyke1973 said:
Be careful ,do your research or I see a fair few burnt plants .
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I haven't burnt a plant in twenty years using chemical salts. But I use them on the lower end of the scale in extreme moderation. Now making my own supersoil has had some issues. Didn't realize how strong some of the organic amendments could be. But low doses of chemical salts don't pose a problem. Less is more.
 
Straininsane

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There’s so many overpriced nutrients out there and the beginners have to spend 10s of thousands of dollars over the years to figure out which ones work and which ones suck or are even harmful and or a waste of money.. Most of the AN line is overpriced bs they spend more on advertising and trying to convince u if u use their nutrients u will always get 2.5 lbs or more per 1000 watt light which is a ridiculous claim on their part knowing it takes many things to be in line to produce big yields not just the nutrients u use I only like a couple of ANs rooting beneficial bacteria for clones but everything else is overpriced but I do use Big Bud for 3 weeks during early flowering it does help the plant throw more white hairs but that’s it so be careful and don’t waste your money and don’t use too much nutrient
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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xtsho said:
I haven't burnt a plant in twenty years using chemical salts. But I use them on the lower end of the scale in extreme moderation. Now making my own supersoil has had some issues. Didn't realize how strong some of the organic amendments could be. But low doses of chemical salts don't pose a problem. Less is more.
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You hit the nail on the head 20 years experience, I'm not having a go used it my self .Just for any one new wanting to try it
 
Norcal1985

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xtsho said:
I agree. The cannabis nutrient industry has done a great job of marketing watered down chemical salts and other inexpensive ingredients. They take a dimes worth of product, put it in a cool looking bottle with a fancy label and sell it for a thousand times what it cost. I just laugh at the people that think they need cannabis specific nutrients. Cannabis is just another plant. The Marijuana Problems section has plenty of examples of people spending astronomical amounts of money on overpriced products only to end up with crappy plants.

Calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, and micronutrients are all that is needed to grow excellent healthy plants in any grow medium or growing method from soil to hydro when using chemical salt based nutrients. All of which can be had for pennies on the dollar compared to the same chemicals watered down and put in cool looking bottles and marketed to people that don't know any better. AN and all the other overpriced nutrient companies are more about marketing than anything else.
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Nectar for the gods has zero salt and is far superior than anything else. Build your soil by using raw materials that are not salt based . Most organic fertilizers are really synthetic organic . If used properly good raw marijuana food will build the soil over a couple seasons and you will have greater yield .
 
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