I seen in high times this stuff called bud candy and is suppose to make the buds taste like cotten candy and produce larger yeilds...i was wondering if any of you have used this product before and if so how well did it work and if not what would u recommend...I need feedback asap because my plants are starting to show early signs of budding...one more thing, can anyone give me a link to a site that i can order advanced nutrients online and have them shipped to my house...THANKS!
Bud candy
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homebrewer
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Bud candy will do nothing for your plant except add magnesium: http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/bud_candy/bud_candy_faq_nutrient_facts.php
For the price, check out Botanicare's Calmag for additional magnesium. As far the amino acids and carbs, your plant already makes both.
For the price, check out Botanicare's Calmag for additional magnesium. As far the amino acids and carbs, your plant already makes both.
iampolluted
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i was under the assumption that bud candy was basically unsulfured molasses (beet extract). there is a thread somewhere by 3littlebirds or something that explains it better than i can, they don't say the name "bud candy" in particular but it's pretty obvious. you should check it out, and save $30. do a search on molasses, and it should pop up.
decrimCA
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I like Bud Candy and it's worked better for me than I think molasses would. I've seen too many growers screw up their grows with molasses - and Bud Candy is not the same. I wish people could see that.
Bud Candy's made to be used by the plant better than molasses can - not that there's anything wrong with molasses, but I'm just not convinced it's good for MJ growing.
You can get Advanced Nutrient online a variety of ways:
Ebay
www.discountadvancednutrients.com
Craigslist
Good luck man!!!!!
BUd candy has over 30 listed ingredients on the back of the bottle. I dont think molasses has a full shot of amino acids, vitamin B's, etc etc.
The weblink homebrewer posted is wrong. Bud Candy has no magnesium in it. NONE. If you look at the tiny .gif file to the right you can see it lists about 30 different things, but when you click on it to enlarge the picture it just goes to that small magnesium picture. If you actually look at a bottle of it you will see what I mean.
The weblink homebrewer posted is wrong. Bud Candy has no magnesium in it. NONE. If you look at the tiny .gif file to the right you can see it lists about 30 different things, but when you click on it to enlarge the picture it just goes to that small magnesium picture. If you actually look at a bottle of it you will see what I mean.
guitarguy10
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Advanced Nutrients changed their labels to simplify state labeling restrictions. Remember advanced nutrients is Canadian, so to export these products across the border to the US requires strict regulations
It in fact does contain the over 30 ingredients mentioned by Coals. Advanced Nutrients came out after changing their label to clarify that with the hydroponic distributors/community (and also to say that one change had been made, in the viscosity of the molasses used), I guess you missed that
Sorry don't mean to flame or resurrect dead thread, just that you totally trashed what MIGHT be a good product on what was totally incorrect information
I would like to know how it changes the taste though, as i've never done a side by side comparison
mystifiedbongs
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i use it... but never haven't
my buds are always so sweet
my buds are always so sweet
kevin murphy
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morning peeps and mystified hows things growers....
homebrewer
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30??? Wow, too bad only one of them will be used by your plants 'It in fact does contain the over 30 ingredients mentioned by Coals. Advanced Nutrients came out after changing their label to clarify that with the hydroponic distributors/community (and also to say that one change had been made, in the viscosity of the molasses used), I guess you missed that
'Sorry, I'm testing AN's top of the line and most hyped product right now and it's proving to be exactly that; hype. So forgive me if I'm in the habit of knowing what I'm talking about when it comes to ANSorry don't mean to flame or resurrect dead thread, just that you totally trashed what MIGHT be a good product on what was totally incorrect information
I would like to know how it changes the taste though, as i've never done a side by side comparison
ChronicClouds
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I use it and I love it! I use it as a supplement and a sweetener. It really does work and can help increase yield too! (at least mine did better) Don't use another sweetener if you use this stuff. Unless you really know what you are doing, but I still think it would be overkill.
The Real Bob Barker
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Bud Candy is actually two AN products Carbo Load and Sweet Leaf. Carbo load is like any other carb/sugar product on the market, and there are many views on weather they actually do what they say they do, but thats another thread. Sweet Leaf is an l-amino acid product, or flavoring additive, and yes your plants DO make there own l-aminos but I have found that you can load/stack them in your buds for a supper sweat flavor and aroma, and even safely flavor them with carb/flush products like Bud Candy, Sweet (Grape, Berry, Citrus) and Groteks Final Flush (Blueberry, Strawberry and Pina Colada).
I use all of them (except Bud Candy) to force certain flavors but I will have to call bull shit on increased weight from sugar water.
I use all of them (except Bud Candy) to force certain flavors but I will have to call bull shit on increased weight from sugar water.
HungryMan420
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I like bud candy it works nicely and it makes your buds smell really nice!!
tryingtogrow89
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I use botanicare Sweet berry
guitarguy10
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That's what microfauna is for. Plants can only absorb ionized compounds (eg. dissolved salts), or linearized 3 or 6 carbon chain hydrocarbons (coming from precursor 5 or 6 carbon cyclic carbohydrates .. eg. ribose, glucose).30??? Wow, too bad only one of them will be used by your plants '
That's the reason I bought this bud candy stuff, I wanted a carbohydrate source for my plants, but one with dissolved buffers that
a. Cause the hydroxyl group(s) on the saccharides (carbohydrate) to deprotonate (creating an ionized and thus absorb-able still cyclic saccharide)\
b. Provide the nutrients the MICROFAUNA need to grow (eg. the vitamin B's). Healthy microfauna = faster metabolic 'waste' production (where 'waste' is the microfauna's ... shit, but what the plant wants
)c. It was only $30, for a tonne of carbohydrate rich liquid (and should last the modest grower a very long time ... if you are growing on scales where you would go through this stuff fast .. you clearly have the financial resources at your disposal to spend $30 ... which is what AN feeds on, i'll mention that below ... believe me I don't like AN either bud)
c. I will NOT use molasses, here let me tell you why:
i. To use beet or sugar cane to produce molasses in industrial quantities many compounds must be added to them. These compounds are safe for human consumption, which is why they are used, but some of them, specifically the chlorides and oxylate are poisonous to cannabis plants
ii. Only about HALF of molasses is actually composed of carbohydrates, the other half are the additives I just mentioned above
iii. The carbohydrates in molasses are mostly fructose and sucrose, with glucose in there as well. Fructose and sucrose are disaccharides. Most of the species of the symbiotic bacteria and fungus that occupy your soil/soil-less/resevoir struggle hard to break down these disaccharides, which then would have to be either ionized or 'linearlized' by the bacteria AGAIN once they were cleaved into monosaccharides.
I would just rather feed my plant the simple, monosaccharide glucose that it wants.
iv. Molasses is a chelator, which means it binds to and holds onto metal ions (eg. everything you feed your plant) and thus locks up a lot of the dissolved salts in your nutrient solution.
None of us 'know what we're talking about' when discussing the comparitive differences between different additive/nutrient formulations ... that is ... unless you are actually a research chemist for the companies your comparing/discussing. Just because they list the names of the ingredients doesn't mean you can make definitive conclusions.Sorry, I'm testing AN's top of the line and most hyped product right now and it's proving to be exactly that; hype. So forgive me if I'm in the habit of knowing what I'm talking about when it comes to AN
I want to know the molarity of each of these compounds? what buffering solution/solvent was used to add these compounds to? What form are the organic macromolecules (eg. which ones have been phosphorylated, which are just providing the precursor to synthesis, eg. 7-dehydrocholesterol , which UV light induces the change into Vitamin D, etc.)? Have they added proteases to prevent enzyme catalyzed degradation of the compounds in said additive? The list ... goes on. Wish I could obtain this information, nutrients are just salt water with a price tag slapped on it (when I say salt I don't just mean NaCl of course
)My point is, none of us 'know what we're talking about' unless you invented the damned thing, or manufacture it every day. That's why we are left to the standard scientific method to study/compare/observe/theorize claims such as yours that only one chemical in big bud is 'used' by the plant (which is what i've employed in this whole post to at least put some context to the discussion.)
From a QUALITATIVE perspective you are more then welcome to claim you 'know what you're talking about', assuming you've used the product of course. But to make a claim regarding the QUANTITATIVE characteristics of an additive ... *smack*. These companies keep their 'formula's as secret as possible !!
Going back to AN, thats exactly how this crap company employs its business model. They make SO many products with fancy exotic names that people get so confused they just buy whatever looks coolest or just buy them all (which I bet AN banks on marijuanna growers being one of their largest customers for, as to those growing for profit the costs of these additives are nothing).
That doesn't mean, however, that every single one of their products is bad and thus you should never buy anything from AN. Their sensi grow/bloom nutes are pretty decent. Bud candy from all the research I have access to (which is every published scientific journal article there is .. but of course, none of the scientific literature on the actual product) is a solid carbohydrate source. Each company makes more or less the same product, with their own minor variations on it, but for $30 Bud Candy was the best option for me.
Having just completed a full grow with it too I would say it provided my plants their carbs adequately, and the buds do look denser, but that of course could be due to anything, I would never claim it was this or that without some sort of quantitative observations.
Buds Bunny
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So you never used molasses but Bud Candy is better?
Well you have to be a retard to screw your crop by putting in molasses. They either bought it with sulphur in it or something else went wrong.
Why? Its great for getting those beneficlas growing, has micronutrients in it and is a chelating agent. Basically all around goodness with a dirt cheap price.
You want ready to go stuff get Nutrilifes Heavy Weight. Its way cheaper than all the other carbo products.
CapitainSpaulding
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I know this is a old ass tread. But this guy is wrong. I'm holding a bottle in my hand. And on the back it says Magnesium 0.5, this is for anyone like me. That likes to research there products
Medizzinman
Active Member
Tried it, and it frosted up things very nicely, didnt really like the slight taste it imparted on flowers. I switched to botanicaire sweet raw, same results no after taste.