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ryan1918

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Actually it's LEGAL to run a disp if the local DA does not want to pursue cases against disp. IN his county (Words directly FROM the state AG!. Mine existed BEFORE they were a no-no AND I PERSONALLY spoke with city politicians AND the counties DA's and given the green light to remain open!!......I have NOT been even checked by local, county or state officials at any time till raided! My LAWYER SAYS it came directly ORDERED by the State AG who was read transcripts OF testimony given by anyone "pro" MM!
The Lawyer states that he has seen what he has been allowed to see, regarding the reason of the raid - I was ratted out and so were everyone else across the state that has been raided! They are not even paying attention to Detroit!
Actually it's LEGAL to run a disp if the local DA does not want to pursue cases against disp. IN his county (Words directly FROM the state AG!. Mine existed BEFORE they were a no-no AND I PERSONALLY spoke with city politicians AND the counties DA's and given the green light to remain open!!......I have NOT been even checked by local, county or state officials at any time till raided! My LAWYER SAYS it came directly ORDERED by the State AG who was read transcripts OF testimony given by anyone "pro" MM!
The Lawyer states that he has seen what he has been allowed to see, regarding the reason of the raid - I was ratted out and so were everyone else across the state that has been raided! They are not even paying attention to Detroit!
I would love to see where it's legal and not some bullshit local city ordinance, because per the mmmp act they are illegal and I've never seen anything change in the act to make them legal
 

Dr. Who

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I would love to see where it's legal and not some bullshit local city ordinance, because per the mmmp act they are illegal and I've never seen anything change in the act to make them legal
After the state supreme court ruling....
Bill Schutte stated in public on numerous occasions. The choice of enforcement is up to local DA's and the state would not interfere with local choices! HE LIED!

Look at Detroit. They are actually giving out Disp. permits! How about all the metro big scale disp. in the Detroit area? They aren't getting raided and they advertise in mags and on the net......Why did Disp owned or operated by people who are/were active IN the legislation to change the laws or get a new LEGAL sales laws enacted, the ones who were raided? Why were the Detroit "big money" players that own disp there and backed the "NO home or caregiver growing or sales?" Only the high tax 500 - 1000 - 1500 plant corporate growers would be given permits. Only Disp could sell and your hated disp owners would be selling at $30 A GRAM! Plants would be grown and then harvested and taxed. The plants would NOT be trimmed, dried or cured at the point of growth. They would be taken by armored car to a "processing" facility for that. There it would be trimmed, dried, cured and packaged and guess what? Taxed again! The armored cars come back and distribute it to the disp. YOU now get taxed at point of purchase and you know what? Each step will charge the next the tax THEY had to pay so they hold that all important "profit margin"!! $30 grams for mediocre weed? How good would the quality be after being ABUSED by being harvested and then stacked and driven to some were else to be "processed" ? Taken back out of a truck and then hung to dry?

THIS is what WE (those who got raided) GOT TABLED in the senate, effectively killing the bill, So YOU can continue to grow and most likely break the law by street selling! You HATE disp. But you really DON'T understand what they really do and who they really serve! Yes, there are profit only money mongers out there! I'm not one of those! I paid my employees by a shares of profit system and not by hrs! Something like a minimum of $22 an hr and that would go up and down with sales! Every one working for me, Have in the same MEDICAL mindset as I! Yes we had plenty of questionable reason card holders.....Not my problem! Most of all my customers would THANK us for our dedication to supplying them their meds as they had NO inclination to grow or get a caregiver (try and find one now!)......We served a purpose and a cause......What and who, do YOU serve?

You are cordially invited to stop badgering me about the law and disp now!

Btw. If you haven't figured it out yet.....I'll bet your breaking the "law" somewhere too! Mich is a "catch 22" set up law on MM now. Think about it kid. You can go over the weight limit with 1 plant! So, How many do you grow? If you have plants AND dry weight, lets say you have the 2.5 zip limit ok? AND you have growing plants. You get hit by a "compliance" check (this is how many local growers are getting inspected AND busted) They weight your 2.5 and say "Your under arrest for being over". Know why? They harvest your plants and dry them and add that to the dry weight......Not legal you say? Most folks are so scared they simply take a plea and pay a big fine and costs, pay an expencive lawyer and spend the next year or 3 on probation! The locals now have you marked for further visits and you had SURE better be IN compliance this time! If your smart you push for trial or you have a good lawyer who actually DEFENDS you and you get the case dismissed!

God luck and drink the fucking DEW!
 

ryan1918

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Lol how is anyone given a compliance check when they don't even if we are card holders... what do they go door to door in your city? And all that other gibberish you wrote I wouldn't buy it from them i would grow my own so i wouldn't get taxed period.
 

kmog33

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Dispensaries are cheaper than dealers for better weed in most cases because they make money. If you have connections is a totally different ball game. But any grower/dealer that can still charge $20 a gram, is. Dispensaries have made it more competitive and I think it pissed some growers/dealers off that they have more/better product than they do for cheaper. There's no dispensary out here that doesn't have $5-10 grams as well as their $20 grams. So being pissed because your shit isn't good enough to sell for top dollar straight to dispensaries and people will go to dispensaries over dealers because generally they are safer/better/cheaper is pretty rediculous IMO.


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Budley Doright

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$20 a gram, you all should be driving gold plated mercs at that price!
That's pretty pricey lol. About $3.50 here for outdoor large and it was $10 across the board at the disp. in Vancouver, some was good and some not so :). And the outdoor is the same, some good, some not so ;)
 

420monster

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Medical dispensaries are non profit the owners can take a reasonable salary and the remainder goes back into the business not there bank account recreational sales can be for profit but the majority of the price you pay is taxes after taxes and and expenses dispensaries actually make very little "profit" your not going to become a millionaire and you can blame the government for the prices not the dispensary owners

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Budley Doright

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Medical dispensaries are non profit the owners can take a reasonable salary and the remainder goes back into the business not there bank account recreational sales can be for profit but the majority of the price you pay is taxes after taxes and and expenses dispensaries actually make very little "profit" your not going to become a millionaire and you can blame the government for the prices not the dispensary owners

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I would imagine that taxes, overhead eat a large part. I'm sure it's just like any other business. I do think they were probably a cash cow in Colorado when the first ones open their door just due to novelty but like any other business they should make a decent profit, that's what it's all about.
 

ryan1918

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That's pretty pricey lol. About $3.50 here for outdoor large and it was $10 across the board at the disp. in Vancouver, some was good and some not so :). And the outdoor is the same, some good, some not so ;)
Do they give deals if you buy a oz or more, and what's that cost, is it legal there or medical?
 

ryan1918

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Medical dispensaries are non profit the owners can take a reasonable salary and the remainder goes back into the business not there bank account recreational sales can be for profit but the majority of the price you pay is taxes after taxes and and expenses dispensaries actually make very little "profit" your not going to become a millionaire and you can blame the government for the prices not the dispensary owners

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There is no tax here in michigan, you see a $10 gram you pay $10 gram.. I would love for you to show me one non-profit dispensary that is for the patients. So now explain??
 

420monster

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There is no tax here in michigan, you see a $10 gram you pay $10 gram.. I would love for you to show me one non-profit dispensary that is for the patients. So now explain??
I'm not sure of the states official laws but medical dispensaries are non profit and I have seen alot of both growers and dispensaries who are for helping people not for money yes there is alot of greed drivin people in this world but compassionate humans do exist but attacking eveyone who does not agree with you will get you no where

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ryan1918

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I'm not sure of the states official laws but medical dispensaries are non profit and I have seen alot of both growers and dispensaries who are for helping people not for money yes there is alot of greed drivin people in this world but compassionate humans do exist but attacking eveyone who does not agree with you will get you no where

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none of them in michgan are non-profit I know that's for sure they will tell you they are 100% for profit, but it will be taxed and regulated next year, once it becomes legal 25% so that means an extra $25-50 just for tax alone for one once which is not acceptable at all, they are already paying to much, but they don't care they just want more money, they even have it in the new bill that the state can setup commercial grow houses can you say corruption? They want to regulate it so no one person can go and buy and start them all, or no corporation could come it and grab it all up, but they allow the bill to include themselves to grow now if that isn't the same thing but make it legal for the state seems corrupt as hell. Who did I attack I haven't attacked anyone and could careless if anyone agreed with me or not lol. I do believe that people need to stop believing they can get free smoke every month or so often, because it isn't free to grow, it isn't easy to grow, and sure is a lot of time and at least a little knowledge if you want to get anything good, and lots of patients.
 

ryan1918

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After the state supreme court ruling....
Bill Schutte stated in public on numerous occasions. The choice of enforcement is up to local DA's and the state would not interfere with local choices! HE LIED!

Look at Detroit. They are actually giving out Disp. permits! How about all the metro big scale disp. in the Detroit area? They aren't getting raided and they advertise in mags and on the net......Why did Disp owned or operated by people who are/were active IN the legislation to change the laws or get a new LEGAL sales laws enacted, the ones who were raided? Why were the Detroit "big money" players that own disp there and backed the "NO home or caregiver growing or sales?" Only the high tax 500 - 1000 - 1500 plant corporate growers would be given permits. Only Disp could sell and your hated disp owners would be selling at $30 A GRAM! Plants would be grown and then harvested and taxed. The plants would NOT be trimmed, dried or cured at the point of growth. They would be taken by armored car to a "processing" facility for that. There it would be trimmed, dried, cured and packaged and guess what? Taxed again! The armored cars come back and distribute it to the disp. YOU now get taxed at point of purchase and you know what? Each step will charge the next the tax THEY had to pay so they hold that all important "profit margin"!! $30 grams for mediocre weed? How good would the quality be after being ABUSED by being harvested and then stacked and driven to some were else to be "processed" ? Taken back out of a truck and then hung to dry?

THIS is what WE (those who got raided) GOT TABLED in the senate, effectively killing the bill, So YOU can continue to grow and most likely break the law by street selling! You HATE disp. But you really DON'T understand what they really do and who they really serve! Yes, there are profit only money mongers out there! I'm not one of those! I paid my employees by a shares of profit system and not by hrs! Something like a minimum of $22 an hr and that would go up and down with sales! Every one working for me, Have in the same MEDICAL mindset as I! Yes we had plenty of questionable reason card holders.....Not my problem! Most of all my customers would THANK us for our dedication to supplying them their meds as they had NO inclination to grow or get a caregiver (try and find one now!)......We served a purpose and a cause......What and who, do YOU serve?

You are cordially invited to stop badgering me about the law and disp now!

Btw. If you haven't figured it out yet.....I'll bet your breaking the "law" somewhere too! Mich is a "catch 22" set up law on MM now. Think about it kid. You can go over the weight limit with 1 plant! So, How many do you grow? If you have plants AND dry weight, lets say you have the 2.5 zip limit ok? AND you have growing plants. You get hit by a "compliance" check (this is how many local growers are getting inspected AND busted) They weight your 2.5 and say "Your under arrest for being over". Know why? They harvest your plants and dry them and add that to the dry weight......Not legal you say? Most folks are so scared they simply take a plea and pay a big fine and costs, pay an expencive lawyer and spend the next year or 3 on probation! The locals now have you marked for further visits and you had SURE better be IN compliance this time! If your smart you push for trial or you have a good lawyer who actually DEFENDS you and you get the case dismissed!

God luck and drink the fucking DEW!

Your really surprised that they lied? the police, attorney general and all them government officials are all corrupt, and they will lie right to your face, I wouldn't believe any of them if it was signed and stamped by them. What does it matter where they dry, cure and process the weed, they can charge whatever they want or control/regulate it as much as they want it don't mean it will happen or go that way, shit I'm sure hardly anyone would even follow the law and who even has time to check to make sure they are doing it properly anyways? If it get's taxed or to high like it currently is people are going to do what they are doing now and go to the black market and get it, It's legal if the got there card for them to get it from other people so people will just do what they do now, I know I can get it cheaper on the black market then any dispensary, I tried to buy oz, qp's and pound's and they wanted retarded prices over $240 a oz, $900 a qp and didn't even ask about the pound when I can get it for half of the price(and much better quality) from so many other different people, growers, and most of the time it's not even that real good stuff it's stuff that goes for $125-140 a oz not the top shelf, otherwise they want $400+ an oz
 

Budley Doright

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Do they give deals if you buy a oz or more, and what's that cost, is it legal there or medical?
Not sure, been there once and only bought 7 grams. And no it's not at all legal unless you have a card. The one that I went to will sell if you produce a pain pill scrip and I'm sure other scrips as well. Yes they are being busted if there is a complaint. I don't use them as but they filled a need when I was in need lol. I try to stay under the wire here and provide myself with all I need or I buy from an ex partner that's still in the game, I pay $400 for a quarter (112g) of outdoor.
 

Budley Doright

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There is no tax here in michigan, you see a $10 gram you pay $10 gram.. I would love for you to show me one non-profit dispensary that is for the patients. So now explain??
So there are no taxes paid out of that $10? The government doesn't get anything?
 

tyke1973

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ROTFL!

And the the kid listens to him and does the above!!!! TOO MUCH!

@Buba Blend
That was just single site mutations. It would have been cool to just watch it grow dude!
At first I thought you might have a true poly, then I looked closer - nope, the rest of the plant says not....
madness what i mean about stupid quick fingered comments ,no need to do any thing to it,i agree dr who
 

Buba Blend

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madness what i mean about stupid quick fingered comments ,no need to do any thing to it,i agree dr who
She's doing fine. Some Pics of what I think IMHO is a calcium deficiency. Probably a mag deficiency as well. I hooked up my own RO system and I've probably been under fertilized with cal/mag supplements while using a higher % of RO now that I have easier access to it. I've foliar sprayed with cal/mag a few times since seeing the deficiency. Should be finished flowering in about 3 weeks.100_4989.JPG 100_5022.JPG 100_4991.JPG 100_5018.JPG 100_5012.JPG
 

ryan1918

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So there are no taxes paid out of that $10? The government doesn't get anything?
No if it's $12 a gram that's what they get(dispensarys are not even legal here at state law but some citys started some dispensary licenses at the local level) the people rent the space...(each room it's a old office building 8 rooms total hundreds of different kinds of smoke, wax edibles, seeds, all different prices but mainly 10 and up and 12 for pretty good stuff) 2k-5k a month but said he was banking 10k a day and there was 40 or more people in here called the sweet leaf but the people that rent each room are the actual growers and some rooms are nothing but edibles yet wax and edibles are illegal in Michigan lol
 
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