Bud swell or Fox tailing?

toomp

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Growing in Happy frog. I used FF grow big during veg.

0-4-4 been slowly dropping my ratio. I’m just running 4 ml of big bud in a gallon of rain water
No N. Okay well aside from temps the only other culprit and the most important is probably just the genes and nothing you can do. They look great though. You did a bang up job, what are you 2 weeks out?
 

TrashcanPicker

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No N. Okay well aside from temps the only other culprit and the most important is probably just the genes and nothing you can do. They look great though. You did a bang up job, what are you 2 weeks out?
I would say two weeks out on my cherry pie that’s more of a Indica dominant strain. And maybe 3 to 4 weeks on my green crack and sour d. That’s all speculation I’m checking the trichomes daily. Still deciding weather to trim wet or dry? Any thoughts on that matter
 

Venus55

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I would say two weeks out on my cherry pie that’s more of a Indica dominant strain. And maybe 3 to 4 weeks on my green crack and sour d. That’s all speculation I’m checking the trichomes daily. Still deciding weather to trim wet or dry? Any thoughts on that matter
Personal preference really. It’s a bit like the flush or not to flush topic. Pros cons etc etc.
Do what’s best for you:)
 

TrashcanPicker

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Personal preference really. It’s a bit like the flush or not to flush topic. Pros cons etc etc.
Do what’s best for you:)
I heard you get a better end product trimming when dry for potency. And trimming wet is just easier and you get better looking buds. Also I just started flushing. It can’t hurt I suppose. My next grow I will try different things. It’s all about trial and error for me.
 

Venus55

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I heard you get a better end product trimming when dry for potency. And trimming wet is just easier and you get better looking buds. Also I just started flushing. It can’t hurt I suppose. My next grow I will try different things. It’s all about trial and error for me.
...“It can’t hurt I suppose”.
- Of course it can hurt. Why would u decide to starve your plant right when she has the most work to do? Anyway that’s another thread.
As for trimming wet or dry I’ve done both and do both. I do as much as I can while it’s wet but by the time I get thru it all I end up doing dry as well. I cure together and all my buds smell taste smoke amazing.
 

Dr. Who

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I heard you get a better end product trimming when dry for potency. And trimming wet is just easier and you get better looking buds. Also I just started flushing. It can’t hurt I suppose. My next grow I will try different things. It’s all about trial and error for me.
Flushing = does NOT remove or "flush" anything from the plant.

Fading? Simply moves the plant stored nutrients, right to the buds - where, your try to get rid of them. Interesting theory, this move nutrients out of a bud for taste and burn. Thing is it's all a hippie logic myth...

CURE it properly, after a proper dry....
 

toomp

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I would say two weeks out on my cherry pie that’s more of a Indica dominant strain. And maybe 3 to 4 weeks on my green crack and sour d. That’s all speculation I’m checking the trichomes daily. Still deciding weather to trim wet or dry? Any thoughts on that matter
I never got a good cure wet trimming. drying to fast trapping chlorophyll, or not releasing chlorophyll slow enough or enough in general. Maybe right? It's fixable longer cure.
However
Nothing but the best from a dry trim. 8 or so days dry time, gotta get it done before you miss the cure window. If you do the jars will smell great the bud will not until broken or grinded down. So be swift trimming but careful the trichomes may fall off easier.
This is pertaining to smell I don't know about potency.

Flushing the recommendation is to do what you want with yours, do what the market wants for theirs. Give them white Ash.

I dial back last week but feed molasses up to chop
Cigar makers say white Ash comes from magnesium rich soil. I think we don't know for sure yet.
 

Dr. Who

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I never got a good cure wet trimming. drying to fast trapping chlorophyll, or not releasing chlorophyll slow enough or enough in general. Maybe right? It's fixable longer cure.
However
Nothing but the best from a dry trim. 8 or so days dry time, gotta get it done before you miss the cure window. If you do the jars will smell great the bud will not until broken or grinded down. So be swift trimming but careful the trichomes may fall off easier.
This is pertaining to smell I don't know about potency.

Flushing the recommendation is to do what you want with yours, do what the market wants for theirs. Give them white Ash.

I dial back last week but feed molasses up to chop
Cigar makers say white Ash comes from magnesium rich soil. I think we don't know for sure yet.
Your dry is too fast.

50% Rh at 68 -70 F for about 2 weeks......That's your locking point - the fast dry. Jar time is when the stems crack and not just bend and collapse. The stem breaks apart? To long a dry....Add moisture back and start curing.

Cure time to the best result? 6-8 weeks......Patience rewards those who do it properly.....I go 8 weeks and cure with 58 Bovida's in the cure container...

Flushing at the finish - does NOTHING for end result.

There are a cpl of things that theoretically reduce cure times. I don't care to pour boiling water through my soil/media and let them sit for a few days.
So I don't follow that train of thought.
 

DuBR

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Could anyone tell me if I’m getting some calyx swell or Fox tailing. I’m going into the 8th week of flower.
One is fox tailing a little.

Anyone heard about the California Raids in the Triangle and Riverside. Companies trying to get rid of competition.

That’s why Canadians are all down here illegally? Someone is a rat. How they get busted.
Canadian Lobbyists money all over, Kamala Harris that damn Canadian. Bunch of horse shit. Probably had those fire set to end competition.
Make all my peeps homeless.
So you can sell BS cannabis in America.

How did some Trans’ Canadian HollyWeed get sold her in Cali, isn’t that illegal to cross national boarders with cannabis?
 

TrashcanPicker

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Your dry is too fast.

50% Rh at 68 -70 F for about 2 weeks......That's your locking point - the fast dry. Jar time is when the stems crack and not just bend and collapse. The stem breaks apart? To long a dry....Add moisture back and start curing.

Cure time to the best result? 6-8 weeks......Patience rewards those who do it properly.....I go 8 weeks and cure with 58 Bovida's in the cure container...

Flushing at the finish - does NOTHING for end result.

There are a cpl of things that theoretically reduce cure times. I don't care to pour boiling water through my soil/media and let them sit for a few days.
So I don't follow that train of thought.
Am I reading this right?So you’re saying to dry until the stems cracks? Jar up with bovida and start the cure process?. Also is there any negatives results from using bovida’s?
 

Dr. Who

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Am I reading this right?So you’re saying to dry until the stems cracks? Jar up with bovida and start the cure process?. Also is there any negatives results from using bovida’s?
You got it right. The whole drying thing is a package deal. RH, TEMP's, TIME....

No negatives in my book....
 

toomp

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To long a dry....Add moisture back and start curing.
This is how well cared for crops becomes mids.

Your dry is too fast.

50% Rh at 68 -70 F for about 2 weeks
Lol. No I'm good..

...I go 8 weeks and cure with 58 Bovida's in the cure container...
No. Absolutely not. find better genetics if you need a quarter of the year to get a good Dry/cure it should be gas at the end of dry, the cure enhances it. I personally wouldn't even think about asking anyone to wait 6 months for stock.


Flushing at the finish - does NOTHING for end result.
Like I said I don't Flush
I don't overfeed
However threads are here of members ask should they. They don't because they parrot what you say and report harsh smoke.i was just in one last month. It will be others. Because you are parroting what you read on a forum. The reality is it what flushing can or cannot do for a plant is dependent on the grower.
 
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TrashcanPicker

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This is how well cared for crops becomes mids.


Lol. No I'm good..


No. Absolutely not. find better genetics if you need a quarter of the year to get a good Dry/cure it should be gas at the end of dry, the cure enhances it. I personally wouldn't even think about asking anyone to wait 6 months for stock.



Like I said I don't Flush
I don't overfeed
However threads are here of members ask should they. They don't because they parrot what you say and report harsh smoke.i was just in one last month. It will be others. Because you are parroting what you read on a forum. The reality is it what flushing can or cannot do for a plant is dependent on the grower.
This is a reply to both of your posts. I will have an abundance of flower. I’m going to dry until the stem cracks. Then just try some at week 4 of cure, week 6 and week 8. Make notes and see what was the better of the three. I’m all about trial and error.
 

70's natureboy

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Most of my weed gets consumed within a month. I figure the curing is for people that need to store it. I smoke test everything before I jar it. If it's too wet to smoke it's too wet to jar. If I can smoke it, it will be 55-58% in the jar. I do like a slow dry @55% humidity and 65-75 degrees for 10-20 days depending on which way those numbers fluctuate.
 

Dr. Who

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This is how well cared for crops becomes mids.
Foolish bull shit

Lol. No I'm good..
Do what you want! I don't have to smoke it

No. Absolutely not. find better genetics if you need a quarter of the year to get a good Dry/cure it should be gas at the end of dry, the cure enhances it. I personally wouldn't even think about asking anyone to wait 6 months for stock.
How is 8 weeks or 2 month's a quarter of a year? Guess this comment lines out who you really are..
Anyway. You have limited, at best, knowledge of what you speak. As far as my genetics - LMFAO


Like I said I don't Flush
I don't overfeed
However threads are here of members ask should they. They don't because they parrot what you say and report harsh smoke.i was just in one last month. It will be others. Because you are parroting what you read on a forum. The reality is it what flushing can or cannot do for a plant is dependent on the grower.
FLUSHING - DOES NOT REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE PLANT! over feed or not!
That is science, real science OF the plant. This fact is proven over and over again! Read this posted the other day -
https://www.rollitup.org/t/irrigation-management-strategies-for-medical-cannabis-in-controlled-environments.992859/
 

toomp

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2 months cure, 2 weeks dry that might as well be 3 months. How long it take you to trim at dry

So let's put this in perspective. You pump out 2 crops a year at best because you spend half the year drying and curing. But my knowledge is limited lol.


Flushing
So when you overfeed you leave it in there? What do you do?

Do you water to run off? Now why do you do this.

When you lock out what do you do?

http://cagardenweb.ucanr.edu/Houseplants/Soluble_Salts/

https://extension.oregonstate.edu/news/soluble-salts-damaging-houseplants

https://www.miraclegro.com/en-us/library/small-space-gardening/brown-tips-leaves-salt-damage-houseplants



Get off that shit not only have you flushed before, you would do it again. Limited knowledge my ass. You just too busy trying to be cool. Leave that bro science alone. California state, oregan state, even fucking miracle grow are better references than some forum dude named Dr who. If you overfeed, and lockout you need to flush or limp into harvest. Up to you.
 
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Dr. Who

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2 months cure, 2 weeks dry that might as well be 3 months. How long it take you to trim at dry

So let's put this in perspective. You pump out 2 crops a year at best because you spend half the year drying and curing. But my knowledge is limited lol.
You assume too much! I rotate more then you think. Larger grows then you think.
Besides. once harvested. It doesn't sit there in the grow area taking up space while it dries and/or cures. It has it's own area for that.

This part alone shows your inexperience (I don't care how long you've been here) - I'm being polite there, too.


Flushing
So when you overfeed you leave it in there? What do you do?
I don't overfeed!
#1: The bulk of my runs are "water only organic". I build my own soil's
#2: The other runs, the synthetic ones. Are all dialed in for the strains.... Why would I over feed? I do a set method of mixing my feeds. just so I don't make "mistakes."

Do you water to run off? Now why do you do this.
No.

When you lock out what do you do?
Haven't had that issue in decades. So basically, I don't get that. Why In the world would you? What changes that you do? Who's problem is that then?


These are answers to "House plants." NOT a well tended cannabis grow!
Lets define a house plant a bit eh?
I know my house plants have been with me for years and years. I actually have some likely older then you. I never over feed them. In fact, as long as they get their liquids on schedule, they don't have build up problems. Not to mention the fact that they are periodically over watered a bit to remove any possible build up.

Now how long does your cannabis grow for, Hmm? Likely no longer then 90 days total - for you...
You get build up in that time....YOU FUCKED up!


Get off that shit not only have you flushed before, you would do it again. Limited knowledge my ass. You just too busy trying to be cool. Leave that bro science alone. California state, oregan state, even fucking miracle grow are better references than some forum dude named Dr who. If you overfeed, and lockout you need to flush or limp into harvest. Up to you.
This drivel, simply points out your inexperience and lack of understanding of plant botany.
BTW, last time I "flushed". I'll bet you weren't born yet. And yes, "if" I did make an error with a plant and it called for "LEACHING" salts or chemicals from a media.... I might, depending on how bad it was. For the most part you simply use water and a Ca/Mag pHed to your target pH for a few days and restart feeding...

Lastly. I wouldn't post shit that Scott's or Miracle Grow say's about anything HERE!

Good day
 
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