Buds forming correctly ? or maybe pollinated

macsnax

macsnax

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OldMedUser said:
All the calyxes have that little embryo in them and it stays like that unless pollination occurs. You want to watch for 'nanners and tehy can be hard to spot. Often the first sign is a little white or yellow dust on a leaf below the 'nanner(s)

'nanners are the pollen producing insides of a male flower which is usually enclosed in membrane that splits open when ripe. With hermie plants there is no membrane and just the 'nanners which resemble a bunch of bananas.

This is an example of 'nanners.

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And these are regular male flowers from a Kali Mist grow from ages ago.

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Prefect example oldmed, I was struggling for the words to explain that, lol.
 
macsnax

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Turanchalaspider said:
Thanks for that information I don’t see anything like that but when I open a calax ( one with the two pistols coming out of ) there are tiny green hollow balls soooo tiny and hollow like miniature seeds or more like a embryo what a seed would grow in , now I don’t know if these are the beginning of seed or an embryo but they are in every calax and I assume they are attached to the two sex showing pistils . Has anyone ever opened up a calax to see or is there like an anotomy showing this because I have only seen one post on another site from years ago where a person had the same question / problem and the result at the end of the grow was not pollinated they confirmed it was embryo type of balls , these are like one third of the size of a seed or smaller and hollow to just like the calax itself aside from having these in there .
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Seeds form really fast size wise, like 2 weeks and they're full size just not mature yet. You would be seeing a lot of brown, receding pistils too if your plants had been pollinated.
 
macsnax

macsnax

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Turanchalaspider said:
Here is the only thing I can find
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Ya you're all good to go, you would find those in every calyx you pop open. It's just part of the plant. I'm still really impressed with how well you're doing your first go around. Don't worry so much, that's not what this plant is about, lol.
 
Turanchalaspider

Turanchalaspider

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Hi again :) I have cut my ec down to 1.1 /1.2 but when I checked the runoff it was 0.8 / 1.0 ec is this good or bad ? I don’t understand how there is no salt build up when some of the leaves are showing N toxicity. Also I have added an extra feed now so one feed when lights on and one six hours later . Should I cut my ec down to split these feedings or say like one normal feed then one feed with mostly p.k and a little base etc , I need a good mix without a imbalance to the medium. I do have a tub of dense by green planet which is 0.0.65 and I was thinking to use this once a week for the last 3 weeks at 20grams per 50 litres . I hear that this gives a ec of 1.4 on its own when used by the instructions. I’m too scared to even look at it right now in week 5 day 2 of flower :/
 
SPLFreak808

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Turanchalaspider said:
Hi again :) I have cut my ec down to 1.1 /1.2 but when I checked the runoff it was 0.8 / 1.0 ec is this good or bad ? I don’t understand how there is no salt build up when some of the leaves are showing N toxicity. Also I have added an extra feed now so one feed when lights on and one six hours later . Should I cut my ec down to split these feedings or say like one normal feed then one feed with mostly p.k and a little base etc , I need a good mix without a imbalance to the medium. I do have a tub of dense by green planet which is 0.0.65 and I was thinking to use this once a week for the last 3 weeks at 20grams per 50 litres . I hear that this gives a ec of 1.4 on its own when used by the instructions. I’m too scared to even look at it right now in week 5 day 2 of flower :/
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I honestly dont see N-tox, you are very close though so I agree with slightly lower N. This is something you can ride out to the end by adjusting your nutes, your still in good/correctable range for a healthy harvest.

First post,second pic - it looks like that cola swung against something or something/somebody touched it which can prematurely wither the pistols, doubt it's pollen as it would be rare for a fan to pollinate that whole top without effecting anything else.
 
macsnax

macsnax

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Turanchalaspider said:
Hi again :) I have cut my ec down to 1.1 /1.2 but when I checked the runoff it was 0.8 / 1.0 ec is this good or bad ? I don’t understand how there is no salt build up when some of the leaves are showing N toxicity. Also I have added an extra feed now so one feed when lights on and one six hours later . Should I cut my ec down to split these feedings or say like one normal feed then one feed with mostly p.k and a little base etc , I need a good mix without a imbalance to the medium. I do have a tub of dense by green planet which is 0.0.65 and I was thinking to use this once a week for the last 3 weeks at 20grams per 50 litres . I hear that this gives a ec of 1.4 on its own when used by the instructions. I’m too scared to even look at it right now in week 5 day 2 of flower :/
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Not N tox, just a lil too much is all. I don't see any burnt tips either. It's more like the plant doesn't need quite as much is all...... You're going to need to pick one plan of attack here. If you want to feed more often, I would lower your ec closer to
.9 like you were talking yesterday. If you're going to feed once a day stick around 1.2 .....your trying to get your N in check, not add more.
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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I think to hot in todays picks of the gelatos, the curling inward is the tall-tail sign of it. Dont lower EC, i think just F-W-F-W and see if it makes a differance. and maybe PH to 5.8.

But, they are looking very beastly, i wouldnt defoliate, just move and bend leafs around till its a must to cut them. Of course, if you have a huge leaf covering a nice grouped area of buds, take it off, and maybe take 2-3 a day, it wont harm the progress so much, but great job so far.
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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every grower should have that pic, lol, seeing its the number 1 problem in a good garden, Calmag is a must, at least 200PPMs from seed thru week 4 of flower, then just mag till chop. I learned the odd way, BY NOT LISTENING< LOL>. Mine look like an old ford in a field, LOL, So much rust spots.
 
Turanchalaspider

Turanchalaspider

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You guys are great I appreciate all that helpful advice everything said makes a lot of sense to me to what I’ve already learned from educating myself best I can , I am going to feed twice a day from now with 0.8 ec total but I will only put 40ml of a and b in my 50 litre bucket instead of 60 and I will make the rest of the ec up with pk hopefully they will enough to finish but also I am going to add the dense by greenplanet powder form it’s all k 0.0.65 but I will split that into one feed per week with just water on week 7 ,8 and 9 , it has 10/10 reviews and success ratings suppose to dense up the nugs massivly .
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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You might find some useful info in some of these books.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

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