tntgreen13
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Don't think he is trying to be a smart ass, just a miss understanding. Bug and smells were meant as separate issues, not as one would be my guess. Plants definitely smell, i.e. the reason for carbon filters, etc.
Bugs in soil?
- Thread starter Comet79
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Thanks for the help...hope u have a nice crop this year!
Velvet Elvis
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bake your soil over 200 degree for a half hour. buy soilless mix which is peat and perlite, lime etc. pretty much any loose bag at walmart. do not get top soil. fluffy!
the type pf bugs you might encounter do not live in carpet. they live in roots. on top floor,at worst you would get fungus gnats and they are easy to get rid of. thrips, dreded spider mites etc all live on the plant.
bake soil, get your beans wet, and buckle up. those first couple in the closet years can be the most fun. until you come ot of the closet and take over full basements, then its a job.
most of the other answers blow btw
the type pf bugs you might encounter do not live in carpet. they live in roots. on top floor,at worst you would get fungus gnats and they are easy to get rid of. thrips, dreded spider mites etc all live on the plant.
bake soil, get your beans wet, and buckle up. those first couple in the closet years can be the most fun. until you come ot of the closet and take over full basements, then its a job.
most of the other answers blow btw
tntgreen13
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Thanks! As a new grower, I am just hoping my first yield will be enough medicine until the next harvest comes. If you do decide to grow in the future I wish you the best of luck.
Pretty sure each person in this thread has openly admitted to being a new grower, and based on how long you've been on RIU, I would like to assume you have much more experience then the rest of the participants in this post. Seems as you have provided good information, but the rude comments seems to be a little unnecessary, just my opinion.
Kingrow1
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Springtails are common in most soils and harmless, more than often these will be the bugs you see running or jumping about, tiny white things.
Springtails are very common in some of my grows, youd have to kill the soil to kill them but they coexist happily so its not needed.
Sometime when you water you can see them all come to the surface, dont sweat it their harmless.
Thrips are a fucker, you dont want thrips.
Springtails are very common in some of my grows, youd have to kill the soil to kill them but they coexist happily so its not needed.
Sometime when you water you can see them all come to the surface, dont sweat it their harmless.
Thrips are a fucker, you dont want thrips.
Velvet Elvis
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now now, dont be rude back.
someday youll thank me for giving direct advice that doesnt have you chasing your tail.
im saving you time sonny jim.
Cobnobuler
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bryan oconner
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tntgreen13
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Was by no extent of the imagination being rude first off. Secondly, in regards to direct advice the only thing that you really gave direct advice on, that wasn't already mentioned, was at what temp and how long to bake. Rest of the information, such as plants not living in carpet had been touched on. I'm sure a quality grower, but I think you should get off your high horse.
However, when it comes do baking soil imo, I feel there is more to know then just "bake at 200 for 30 minutes" You know things like the soil itself should hit a temp of at least 140, however shouldn't exceed 180 or it can release toxins killing off bens, and that the amount you try to bake at one time can affect what temps are reached in that 30 minute span? If thats what you call "direct advice" then you and I sir have a little bit different ideas on what direct is.
To the OP if you decide to bake soil to help sterilize it please do some research on the topic, before you just throw it in the oven as this user suggest. Here's a couple links to get you started:
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-garden/bake-soil-to-sterilize-before-germinating-seeds/
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilizers/sterilizing-soil.htm
Timesetter
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Hey Comet,
Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I'm brand spankin' new to RIU and joined pretty much to respond to your post. I've been growing stuff for awhile and have had some issues with bugs/pests in the past. I have purchased several brands of soil and won't go into the ones I have had problems with, but for the last 2 years I have been using Happy Frog and not once have I encountered a single bug in that soil. Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe they go to great lengths to make sure their soil is bug-free, but either way, that's the soil I have settled on. If you can find it in your local garden store, that is the soil I would suggest using. You can mix your own and all that hassle, or like tntgreen13 says, you can bake soil to sterilize it, but for your wants and needs, in my opinion, just buy a bag of Happy Frog and be done with it.
Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I'm brand spankin' new to RIU and joined pretty much to respond to your post. I've been growing stuff for awhile and have had some issues with bugs/pests in the past. I have purchased several brands of soil and won't go into the ones I have had problems with, but for the last 2 years I have been using Happy Frog and not once have I encountered a single bug in that soil. Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe they go to great lengths to make sure their soil is bug-free, but either way, that's the soil I have settled on. If you can find it in your local garden store, that is the soil I would suggest using. You can mix your own and all that hassle, or like tntgreen13 says, you can bake soil to sterilize it, but for your wants and needs, in my opinion, just buy a bag of Happy Frog and be done with it.
Happy frog isn't available in Canada..at least not where I live. online its around 40$ a bag lol. At that price it costs me only 20$ more to buy off the street every 5 weeks. Thx for the replies..but I wont be trying to grow. Too much can go wrong and I wouldn't have time or money to fix it. The little bit I smoke less than an ounce a month, isn't worth the trouble of attempting to grow on a limited budget/setup.
Timesetter
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I gotchya. My very first "real" (I hesitated to even type that) grow was in a closet in my bedroom on the bottom floor of a condo complex. I bought a used 250w metal halide for $50, a fan, some soil and 2 packs of seeds....3 weeks into flowering and my room was crazy humid, my windows were fogged up all the time and the room stunk so bad/good that when I cracked the window you could smell it from 20 feet away. I swore the fuzz was gonna bust in at any moment. I learned a valuable lesson......air filtration was really expensive at the time, but very necessary in that environment. But I would do it all over again in a minute.
Velvet Elvis
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my god bunch of crybabies.
let the Op fuck up a bunch like the rest of us did, and learn from trial and error. you learn more this way than overanalyzing and reading for hundreds of hours.
go for sterile inert medium if so worried about bugs. kill the bennies who cares.
feed it schultz with a good flush and not worry about a damn thing and I bet he does better than following all the overanalyzed advice.
let the Op fuck up a bunch like the rest of us did, and learn from trial and error. you learn more this way than overanalyzing and reading for hundreds of hours.
go for sterile inert medium if so worried about bugs. kill the bennies who cares.
feed it schultz with a good flush and not worry about a damn thing and I bet he does better than following all the overanalyzed advice.
Timesetter
New Member
Yo VE, I'm just tryin' to help someone on the fence about starting to grow, which sounds like they've decided not to. So, basically it's a non issue. Just a BTW.....Insulting someone's attempt at helping is a dick move, especially if that help keeps them from killing a hundred dollars worth of seeds by feeding them Schultz and burning the shit out of them, but thanks for your feedback.
Being new on here I'll try to keep the over-analyzing to a minimum so I don't offend anyone else. If this site had been around when I started, it probably would've saved me some coin and a lot of stress. Fucking up and gaining experience with good advice is a lot better than fucking up from bad or no advice.
Don't worry about it timesetter..there are people like ve around who have zero to contribute..just smart comments and a know-it-all attitude. Best to leave them people to themselves lol. I would rather read up prior to diving in head first and then running into problems mid-way through and then be stuck. Yes I have decided against growing so it is a non-issue. Since I have never ever grew as much as a house plant..i wasn't sure how things worked with regards to soil and bugs and such. Now I have an idea and can safely walk away without having invested anything. I prefer this than starting and running into an issue that will just cost me more time and money.
Cobnobuler
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Guys I don't see where VE was especially rude with anyone really, why you guys jumpin on him. He gave decent advice regarding bugs.
Timesetter
New Member
Thanks Comet. Hopefully someday your situation will allow you to give it a go....it can be pretty rewarding.
Timesetter
New Member
It was the delivery of the crybaby and over-analyzing comment, not necessarily his advice on bugs. Like I said, I'm just tryin' to help, I'm not here to perpetuate drama, but if you're gonna jump in and call people crybabies and say that decent advice is over-analyzing....well....it's going to get a response....that's all. I'm over it and moving on now.
tntgreen13
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You're right, he wasn't especially rude, however the advice certainly could have been given without the addition of comments such as:
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Just don't see how these comments are beneficial. As a new grower and new member of RIU, I personally think it's things like this that plague the forum. However, with that being said I will leave it at that as it's a waste of time to continue this thread when OP has decided not to grow.
Velvet Elvis
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Read my other posts noobs. nothing to contribute?whos rude now? yall are proving my point with the crybaby stuff. toughen up. for real.
there is a learning curve we must all go through. One does not just jump into no till organic gardening with teas. you have to fudge up a bunch first. none of his research will click until he sees the results first hand.
and yes you can grow some mighty fine herb with schultz, in a damn toilet. My best batches ever, were the simplest ones ever! no bennies, no carbs, no sulfur, no pk booster. just straight up leaving them alone and watering them clean water.
simple miracle gro peat mix from walmart, and then general hydro 3 part once ferts in soil are used up in veg. ph down kit from petco and this is all you need to get started.
my advice earlier, whether specific enough or not was to show him bugs are no deal, and he could go completely sterile medium and do fine.
I suggest however not to grow, if youre in an apartment is an issue. doesnt matter how well you calculate cubic feet per divided to the 4th power, carbon filter blah blah vapor pressure deficit. mumbo jumbo.
plant a seed. its a weed. get over yourselves and quit being crybabies. and since you cant, let the being a farmer toughen you up.
there is a learning curve we must all go through. One does not just jump into no till organic gardening with teas. you have to fudge up a bunch first. none of his research will click until he sees the results first hand.
and yes you can grow some mighty fine herb with schultz, in a damn toilet. My best batches ever, were the simplest ones ever! no bennies, no carbs, no sulfur, no pk booster. just straight up leaving them alone and watering them clean water.
simple miracle gro peat mix from walmart, and then general hydro 3 part once ferts in soil are used up in veg. ph down kit from petco and this is all you need to get started.
my advice earlier, whether specific enough or not was to show him bugs are no deal, and he could go completely sterile medium and do fine.
I suggest however not to grow, if youre in an apartment is an issue. doesnt matter how well you calculate cubic feet per divided to the 4th power, carbon filter blah blah vapor pressure deficit. mumbo jumbo.
plant a seed. its a weed. get over yourselves and quit being crybabies. and since you cant, let the being a farmer toughen you up.