Buying Or Renting/Saving?

redivider

Well-Known Member
if you buy a house for more than it's worth it's your own fault. if you loose your job you HAVE to either sell it or refinance it, try to get a smaller monthly payment...

if you buy a house that looses 20% of it's value within 10 years you over paid for that house.
sorry to give you some bad news.

the only way you can loose money with a property is if you willfully pay too much for it and are then faced with a streak of bad luck. the price of a home isn't some baseline minimum. it's what you agree to pay for it.

negotiating skill are a MUST. the way home markets work is the closer your loan is to maturity the more likely it is that your house is worth more than what the mortage was worth when it originated.
even in this market that's the truth.

my father lost his job when i was young, he refinanced, used the money to cover the mortage the first month. we rented a small apartment. he rented the house and used the rent income to cover it's own mortage + landscaping and homeowners assoc costs...

the money he got from the refi he used for rent until he found another job. he did. then he used the money he still had from the refi to pay into that new loan, we spent HOURS at the bank negotiating a smaller and smaller payment. it takes patience and balls. the bank wants your business, they NEED your business. you have to go in there and take the gloves off. either they work with you or you go to their competitor. it's not hard, it's just a lot of work.

homes aren't an investment you just put money into and no work. HELL no. keeping a home that gains value is a WHOLE lot of work. you need to work with banks, work with neighbors, sometimes the government needs to get involved... all of it is work.... but it's worth it in my opinion.... a NICE place to live that you have worked for and earned is NEVER a liability....

it's pretty much the purpose of life.... right???
 

hgkdehs

Active Member
Renters tend to tear things up. They don't own it, so they don't have so much an interest in keeping it nice, as the owner would. I might rent out an old house but not a new one. You aren't taking the housing market into consideration. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I bought in a sellers market and sold in a buyers market. And rent where I lived is fairly cheap. I wouldn't get nearly enough renting to justify doing it.
 

vh13

Well-Known Member
homes aren't an investment you just put money into and no work. HELL no. keeping a home that gains value is a WHOLE lot of work. you need to work with banks, work with neighbors, sometimes the government needs to get involved... all of it is work.... but it's worth it in my opinion.... a NICE place to live that you have worked for and earned is NEVER a liability....

it's pretty much the purpose of life.... right???
I like this point, especially because it reveals the kind of values that appeal to buying a house.

However, to some this is not the value of home ownership, but rather the liability.

Renters tend to tear things up. They don't own it, so they don't have so much an interest in keeping it nice, as the owner would. I might rent out an old house but not a new one. You aren't taking the housing market into consideration. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I bought in a sellers market and sold in a buyers market. And rent where I lived is fairly cheap. I wouldn't get nearly enough renting to justify doing it.
Many properties are only break-even investments that don't gain equity as fast as inflation or stocks. =\
 

a dog named chico

Well-Known Member
Sorry didn't read past the OP's comment so bare with me:
Now is the time to buy, rentals are at an all time high as the economy sucks and people do not want to be tied down. my house is about 1000 sq/ft on a good size lot and i pay $550 a month (taxes and insurance included) now i worked in the rental industry for 5 years, $550 wont get you a lot, infact at $550 expect to have shady neighbors, break ins, and just a general feeling of being unsafe.
 
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