Bypassing power meter?

comercial said:

I'm in Oregon carded up. I don't worry about FLIR and I have my own property on anchorage.
What one person views as "good" money is really relative.
But if you where running 30 lights instead of 10 and only paying %10 of what you should pay on
those 30 lights. Would you not make more money? If your comfortable then that's great, but the topic is
bypassing power. I disagree when people say this is how you will "always" get caught.
I have bypassed power at multiple grows. Done correctly with the right parts, it works.

Comercial

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and ya u would make more profit.. sure.. but if u grew good bud.. and knew what your doing.. u could make 10,000w 2 flower rooms on flip flop.. and a 10,000 w veg room.. and you could grow some monsters and yield way better numbers and not have the risk of being put in jail forever for all the laws being broken.. lol.. if u can grow legally.. GROW LEGALLY DUMMY

anyone trying to steal power is a dumbass



your already setting yourself up for disaster by the mindset you have. If you don't wanna pay to play then your shit out of luck. If you steal power you'll be shitting in a hole in the floor. Doesn't make sense to me why you'd give up your freedom so openly.

I won't go into detail about how we do it but we get free power by reprogramming the (smart) meter by way of it's optical port. The tool can be bought on ebay, but you'll need some extreme technical know how to pull it off.
Well, technically the power isn't free. What we did was the equivalent of slowing down the old analog meter. Took a $500 bill down to $85. Been going for 3 years now without any suspicion.

DarlingMaster said:

I won't go into detail about how we do it but we get free power by reprogramming the (smart) meter by way of it's optical port. The tool can be bought on ebay, but you'll need some extreme technical know how to pull it off.
Well, technically the power isn't free. What we did was the equivalent of slowing down the old analog meter. Took a $500 bill down to $85. Been going for 3 years now without any suspicion.

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cheat

THe magnet are not crap if you have a dial meter

People are going to go to jail.

https://gigaom.com/2012/04/13/smart-meter-security-the-human-element/

Just one example. This rarely goes unnoticed for long. Not a technique that will be long lived.

I'm not advacating stealing power. I dont anymore.
What im saying is if done right then there is high provability that you will not get caught.
a lot of people are under the understanding that if you steal power you will 100% get caught and this just is not true.
Are you saying that you've never looked back in your life at something that you had done wrong, but now being older upon reflection understand that what you did was wrong.
I was in my twenties with not a care in the world, and I wanted to make a lot of money I didn't care about the risk. But now I'm much older everything is on the up and up.

So for everybody calling me a thief and whatever you might want to look at yourself.
I'm pretty sure almost all of us "mess" around with our taxes. If we even pay them.

you should also consider in the mid to early nineties you could not run a lot of power in your house and just pay the power bill.
The power companies would snitch on you for paying a high power bill.

Anyways I love everybody on this forum so we can just end this topic or I can just start posting parts?

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IPC 4/0. 2/0 gauge. The top bolt swivels so you get an even connection from the large gauge to the small gauge. The sketchest part is getting to the wires. because they're usually in thick metal conduit.
And there's three wires your two hots and your ground. All tightly packed into a 2 1/2 inch small diameter piping you can't just cut into that and cut through it and accidentally cut the shielding on the wire and electrocute yourself i will do a tap legally after the meter. So its on the up and up. And post a guide.
Anyone thats more interested in the knowledge.

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I'm off to make pounds of oil / shatter this week.

- Comercial. (Holding down the 541 Eugene, Or!)

JointOperation said:

it don't matter either way.. your making a bad name for any medical growers in OREGON now..


but hey man .. i understand u wana make more money.. but grow better bud.. its that simple.. people are dumb for even wanting to do this.. i don't understand it . but do as you will .. good luck. but im sure we will see you in the news.. either 1.. electrocuted while trying to steal power. or 2.. grow house busted because greedy owner wanted to steal power lol..

these young kids don't understand.. that GREED is what gets people.. not the growing. greed..

when u get to the point were its all about the money.. and that's it.. ? then ur fucked.. and will eventually be busted..

and its funny. your in Oregon.. u wana make money off of a few 1000w lights.. more then u will on bud anyday..

get as many clone only strains u can.. get all the best of the best.. self everything making S1s.. and then make some crosses.. and sell your seeds.. especially since obtaining strains is so easy in areas in the west.. but in reality.. any commercial grower will tell you.. to make more money.. u need to spend money.. upgrade.. not steal.. get better genetics.. or make something yourself.. that yields crazy numbers of quality.. iuno what else to say..

im not the type of person to say ya man go steal power its cool..

your making all weed growers look bad. even posting this idea.

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comercial said:

So for everybody calling me a thief and whatever you might want to look at yourself.
I'm pretty sure almost all of us "mess" around with our taxes. If we even pay them.

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First of all, you're just making an assumption that everyone "cheats" on their taxes. Second, cheating on taxes is nothing like stealing power, especially when you're not talking petty amounts, but large grow ops. The opposite end of the political spectrum would argue that taxes is theft, so cheating on them would be avoiding theft. Cheating on taxes is what it is, cheating, not stealing. Nobody thought it to be imperative to write "thou shall not cheat on taxes" on some slabs of stone, yet almost everyone agrees that it's wrong to forcibly take from someone else.

If you were stealing songs or movies, then I personally see nothing wrong with it, as those are not tangible goods, although a lot of people would argue otherwise... I believe if you copy something, you have not stolen the original item and thus it is not stealing. Whether you get in trouble for it or not is another story.

comercial said:

you should also consider in the mid to early nineties you could not run a lot of power in your house and just pay the power bill.
The power companies would snitch on you for paying a high power bill.

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This is a poor excuse. Again, you're not stealing a small amount, you're stealing a lot of a tangible good. So you couldn't have succeeded otherwise, and that means stealing is okay?

Look, you can't change what you did in the past, but that doesn't mean it's okay, and it was certainly stupid. You could have got caught and nailed big time.

This is the only contactor i have ever used for this application.

There's is other brands same specs or close. I always mount thick rubber behind it when I screw it to the wall.
Because it sounds like some one is punching the outside of your house really hard when its energized.

-Comercial
I don't like to grow medical marijuana in a room or a closet in a house.
In Oregon i was taught to
blow the whole house up. I leave the living room. But that's it.

GE CK96BE300. There is a smaller amp model but for $100 bucks more you get the peice of mind.

full of purple said:

whats needed to be done to bypass the power meter? who sells bypass power boxs?

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DON'T DO IT!

My two cents.....

So i was "cheating" the power company out of there power.

I'm glad your the one to decide what's the social norm.
Cheating, white lies, ect.
So warm to live in the gray.
I don't need to cheat the government out of tax money that I owe them. Because thats just stealing.
I like to keep life black and white. I do admire people that can grey over there personality defects.
I bet you love to lie, but only by proxi.

- Comercial.

churchhaze said:

First of all, you're just making an assumption that everyone "cheats" on their taxes. Second, cheating on taxes is nothing like stealing power, especially when you're not talking petty amounts, but large grow ops. The opposite end of the political spectrum would argue that taxes is theft, so cheating on them would be avoiding theft. Cheating on taxes is what it is. cheating, not stealing. Nobody thought it to be imperative to write "thou shall not cheat on taxes" on some slabs of stone, yet almost everyone agrees that it's wrong to forcibly take from someone else.



This is a poor excuse. Again, you're not stealing a small amount, you're stealing a lot of a tangible good. So you couldn't have succeeded otherwise, and that means stealing is okay?

Look, you can't change what you did in the past, but that doesn't mean it's okay, and it was certainly stupid. You could have got caught and nailed big time.

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Arrogance usually gets thieves caught.

Everyone wants the arrogant thief to get caught. I'm not the one who decided that social norm.

It was 8 years ago. I!m glad I didn't get caught. You have your point. But I'm not arrogant. So I never got caught for years.
Wouldn't it be OK by your standards.
For me to just tell my self that I "borrowed" it from them.
Confusing because if I "borrowed" it then that means they where " cheated" out of money owed to them.
Oh fuck I'm back to stealing again.

Beware of the lollipop of mediocrity, one lick and you suck!

Anyways, your probably not that bad of a person.
In person we would never talk to each other like this. Check out some of my grows I took huge risks. But I had no other skills that paid well.
And a daughter to feed. Had I failed because I couldn't pay my power.
Then someone's getting hustled or robbed. I'm just thankful that all that was way in the past. So that my daughter never had to see her father be a shit bag.

churchhaze said:

Arrogance usually gets thieves caught.

Everyone wants the arrogant thief to get caught. I'm not the one who decided that social norm.

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