C02 question

DemonTrich

Well-Known Member
Dude wtf are you talking about

My old air exchange room ran 24/7, always moving air. You typed a novel above. You've been around and I'm sure you've seen my posting aka bragging of how I built my rooms and such. Head over to the farm.and look at my co2 grow thread. Anything you would like to know will be in there pertaining to my flower room. I will never post yeild results due to the man (not you the man13, but THE MAN) spying on us, and I'm not about to incriminate myself with numbers.

I did 3 yrs in a air exchange and got husr about 1/w
 

Dr. Who

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Dude wtf are you talking about

My old air exchange room ran 24/7, always moving air. You typed a novel above. You've been around and I'm sure you've seen my posting aka bragging of how I built my rooms and such. Head over to the farm.and look at my co2 grow thread. Anything you would like to know will be in there pertaining to my flower room. I will never post yeild results due to the man (not you the man13, but THE MAN) spying on us, and I'm not about to incriminate myself with numbers.

I did 3 yrs in a air exchange and got husr about 1/w
Ok,,,,,um, never asked for yield results.

I was confused by

My total power bill.monthly is 550 on average.

This is for my 2000sq' commercial bldg
3x 600 in flower
1x 8" intake fan
Hmm, I see
 

DemonTrich

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My 2000sq' building houses a built sealed 8x12x6.75' flower room, a 5x10x7 veg tent, and a 6x6x7 built clone/pre veg room. Trim/processing room, dry room.plus my shitter and a small.officeI'm not quite sure what your asking. I don't post many details of my.grow on this site, I'm more of a farm guy.
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
My 2000sq' building houses a built sealed 8x12x6.75' flower room, a 5x10x7 veg tent, and a 6x6x7 built clone/pre veg room. Trim/processing room, dry room.plus my shitter and a small.officeI'm not quite sure what your asking. I don't post many details of my.grow on this site, I'm more of a farm guy.
Thanks for posting that so others are not confused!
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
Gotcha, miscommunication was all. Alot of times.its hard to convey what another's asking and vice versa.
You betcha! Like that don't happen around here - :cuss:

I am impressed with the things I saw.....Nothing new that growing "rules" get bent, even broken.

Now I feel I gotta drag a tent back out and play with my 75lb tank sitting forlorn and almost full in the corner ......
Still got an older CAP controller that works and the tank hardware. That should work in the bloom room. Take up a light section but, now you gave me a bug up the ass to see if I can do that with any of the strains I run....Sounds like a fun project!

See ya around bro!
 

DemonTrich

Well-Known Member
Seriously check out my weekly updated with pics and full build thread over there. 90% of my top colas are 20oz pop bottle size. My Sfv og x dmt, chaos, snake venoms, and god buy have massive tops. Hope the chop will go smoothly tomorrow. Dropped the rh to 45% last 2 weeks.

This next run should be even better, as my 1st newbie co2 run is out of the way and I can fine tune things now.
 

DemonTrich

Well-Known Member
Dude WTF are you talking about. I get 4+ per plant w/o co2. Stick to your cookies and leave the glue to the real growers
 

jm 420

Member
whatever dt ,those were not the numbers,this is about co2.lemme teach ya somthing quick
you said by a co2 monitor when running gas rite ?
co and co2 are diffrent gasses
Carbon monoxide (CO) is a colorless, odorless, and tasteless gas that is slightly less dense than air. It is toxic to hemoglobic animals (including humans) when encountered in concentrations above about 35 ppm, although it is also produced in normal animal metabolism in low quantities, and is thought to have some normal biological functions. In the atmosphere, it is spatially variable and short lived, having a role in the formation of ground-level ozone.

Carbon monoxide consists of one carbon atom and one oxygen atom, connected by a triple bond that consists of two covalent bonds as well as one dative covalent bond. It is the simplest oxocarbon and is isoelectronicwith the cyanide anion, the nitrosonium cation and molecular nitrogen. In coordination complexes the carbon monoxide ligand is called carbonyl.

Carbon monoxide is produced from the partial oxidation of carbon-containing compounds; it forms when there is not enough oxygen to produce carbon dioxide (CO2), such as when operating a stove or an internal combustion engine in an enclosed space. In the presence of oxygen, including atmospheric concentrations, carbon monoxide burns with a blue flame, producing carbon dioxide.[5] Coal gas, which was widely used before the 1960s for domestic lighting, cooking, and heating, had carbon monoxide as a significant fuel constituent. Some processes in modern technology, such as iron smelting, still produce carbon monoxide as a byproduct.[6]

Worldwide, the largest source of carbon monoxide is natural in origin, due to photochemical reactions in the troposphere that generate about 5×1012 kilograms per year.[7] Other natural sources of CO include volcanoes, forest fires, and other forms of combustion.

In biology, carbon monoxide is naturally produced by the action of heme oxygenase 1 and 2 on the heme from hemoglobin breakdown. This process produces a certain amount of carboxyhemoglobin in normal persons, even if they do not breathe any carbon monoxide. Following the first report that carbon monoxide is a normal neurotransmitter in 1993,[8][9] as well as one of three gases that naturally modulate inflammatory responses in the body (the other two being nitric oxide and hydrogen sulfide), carbon monoxide has received a great deal of clinical attention as a biological regulator. In many tissues, all three gases are known to act as anti-inflammatories, vasodilators, and promoters of neovascular growth.[10] Clinical trials of small amounts of carbon monoxide as a drug are ongoing.[11] Nonetheless, too much carbon monoxide causes carbon monoxide poisoning.
 

jm 420

Member
Carbon dioxide (chemical formula CO2) is a colorless and odorless gas vital to life on Earth. This naturally occurring chemical compound is composed of a carbon atom covalently double bonded to two oxygen atoms. Carbon dioxide exists in Earth's atmosphere as a trace gas at a concentration of about 0.04 percent (400 ppm) by volume.[3] Natural sources include volcanoes, hot springs and geysers and it is freed from carbonate rocks by dissolution in water and acids. Because carbon dioxide is soluble in water, it occurs naturally in groundwater, rivers and lakes, in ice caps and glaciers and also in seawater. It is present in deposits of petroleumand natural gas.[4]

Atmospheric carbon dioxide is the primary source of carbon in life on Earth and its concentration in Earth's pre-industrial atmosphere since late in the Precambrian was regulated by photosynthetic organisms and geological phenomena. As part of the carbon cycle, plants, algae, and cyanobacteria use light energy to photosynthesize carbohydrate from carbon dioxide and water, with oxygen produced as a waste product.[5]

Carbon dioxide (CO2) is produced by all aerobic organisms when they metabolize carbohydrate and lipids to produce energy by respiration.[6] It is returned to water via the gills of fish and to the air via the lungs of air-breathing land animals, including humans. Carbon dioxide is produced during the processes of decay of organic materials and the fermentation of sugars in bread, beer and winemaking. It is produced by combustion ofwood, carbohydrates and fossil fuels such as coal, peat, petroleum and natural gas.

It is a versatile industrial material, used, for example, as an inert gas in welding and fire extinguishers, as a pressurizing gas in air guns and oil recovery, as a chemical feedstock and in liquid form as a solvent in decaffeination of coffee and supercritical drying. It is added to drinking water and carbonated beverages including beer and champagne to add sparkle. The frozen solid form of CO2, known as "dry ice" is used as a refrigerant and as an abrasive in dry-ice blasting.

Carbon dioxide is an important greenhouse gas. Burning of carbon-based fuels since the industrial revolution has rapidly increased its concentration in the atmosphere, leading to global warming. It is also a major cause ofocean acidification because it dissolves in water to form carbonic acid.[7]
 

jm 420

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Carbon dioxide

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May 1994
Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health Concentrations (IDLH)

CAS number: 124–38–9

NIOSH REL: 5,000 ppm (9,000 mg/m3) TWA,

30,000 ppm (54,000 mg/m3) STEL

Current OSHA PEL: 5,000 ppm (9,000 mg/m3) TWA

1989 OSHA PEL: 10,000 ppm (18,000 mg/m3) TWA,

30,000 ppm (54,000 mg/m3) STEL

1993-1994 ACGIH TLV: 5,000 ppm (9,000 mg/m3) TWA,

30,000 ppm (54,000 mg/m3) STEL

Description of Substance: Colorless, odorless gas.

LEL: . . Nonflammable Gas

Original (SCP) IDLH: 50,000 ppm

Basis for original (SCP) IDLH: The chosen IDLH is based on the statements by ACGIH [1971] that a 30-minute exposure at 50,000 ppm produces signs of intoxication, and a few minutes of exposure at 70,000 ppm and 100,000 ppm produces unconsciousness [Flury and Zernik 1931]. AIHA [1971] reported that 100,000 ppm is the atmospheric concentration immediately dangerous to life. In addition, Hunter [1975] noted that exposure to 100,000 ppm for only a few minutes can cause loss of consciousness.

Short-term exposure guidelines: None developed

ACUTE TOXICITY DATA

Lethal concentration data:




Species
Reference LC50
(ppm)

LCLo
(ppm)


Time Adjusted 0.5-hr
LC (CF)

Derived
Value

Human Tab Biol Per 1933 ----- 90,000 5 min 49,500 ppm (0.55) 4,950 ppm


Other human data: Signs of intoxication have been produced by a 30-minute exposure at 50,000 ppm [Aero 1953], and a few minutes exposure at 70,000 to 100,000 ppm produces unconsciousness [Flury and Zernik 1931]. It has been reported that submarine personnel exposed continuously at 30,000 ppm were only slightly affected, provided the oxygen content of the air was maintained at normal concentrations [Schaefer 1951]. It has been reported that 100,000 ppm is the atmospheric concentration immediately dangerous to life [AIHA 1971] and that exposure to 100,000 ppm for only a few minutes can cause loss of consciousness [Hunter 1975].



Revised IDLH: 40,000 ppm
Basis for revised IDLH: The revised IDLH for carbon dioxide is 40,000 ppm based on acute inhalation toxicity data in humans [Aero 1953; Flury and Zernik 1931; Schaefer 1951].



REFERENCES:

1. ACGIH [1971]. Carbon dioxide. In: Documentation of the threshold limit values for substances in workroom air. 3rd ed. Cincinnati, OH: American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists, p. 39.

2. Aero Medical Association [1953]. Committee on Aviation Toxicology, Blakiston, New York.

3. AIHA [1964]. Carbon dioxide. In: Hygienic guide series. Am Ind Hyg Assoc J 25:519-521.

4. Flury F, Zernik F [1931]. Schädliche gase dämpfe, nebel, rauch- und staubarten. Berlin, Germany: Verlag von Julius Springer, pp. 218-219 (in German).

5. Hunter D [1975]. The diseases of occupations. 5th ed. London, England: Hodder and Stoughton, p. 618.

6. Schaefer KE [1951]. Studies of carbon dioxide toxicity. New London, CT: Navy Department, Bureau of Medicine and Surgery, Medical Research Laboratory, U.S. Naval Submarine Base, Vol. 10, Report No. 181, pp. 156-189.

7. Tab Biol Per [1933]; 3:231 (in German).
 
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