Cal/Mag Deficiency??

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4kings_LoneSurvivor91

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I was perfect, played around, smh....I ended up with dark green but no burn on tips. Only dark on bottoms...

new growth good

Flushed with 1ml across the board...fed half strength a week later....seemed to fix everything, problem is starting again.

Been verging for close to 3 months now, 5 gallon, ffof, full line of Cali-Pro, great product....only don't have the cal.mag, only thing I've never added to this beast...Pruned 3 times I the last month alone. Never even drooped from a heavy prune for more than 6 hours.

It was drinking alot and I didn't wanna flush it by only watering with PhD water so one week I upped my nutes a bit, to see if it could handle it, and added an extra hf gallon to medium in hopes of not drying out so fast, but then I had to wait longer to try and fix my problem once it started....

Any ideas?? New pot and fresh medium before flower? Planned to flower within 2 weeks, and can't get it back to Basecamp, smh....SHE WAS PERFECT, I FUCKED UP!!!!

Symptoms:
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....added pics from grow before this, FUCKIN MADMAN❤‍☄...Only yielded 2 Oz per plant, but some of the best ive ever done & smoked.

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**Strain: 4 Kings( Exotic Genetics-RETIRED)
**VPD: 77°, 44% Humidity (tried closely related, best turn out)
**Ph: 5.7-5.9
**Medium: FFOF
** Seed/clone: Clone( first pics with single leaves, revegging)
 

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4kings_LoneSurvivor91

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Wanted to show pics of when I feel it was doing good, vs. The pics of when it turned on me after messing around with nutes...(explained in previous post)

..added this post for more photos, only 10 per post....20231205_111257.jpg20231205_111333.jpg20231202_074216.jpg
 
Rsawr

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If you're updating about a plant problem, try keeping them in the same thread, so the people helping you don't have to hop around. You can post 10 pictures PER POST in a thread. I merged them for you.
 
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Rsawr said:
If you're updating about a plant problem, try keeping them in the same thread, so the people helping you don't have to hop around. You can post 10 pictures PER POST in a thread. I merged them for you.
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Thank you so much for merging them for me...I tried, just wast able to do so. Thanks again friend
Sincerely, Jess Filson
 
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Hollatchaboy said:
Last 2 pics.... she looks a lil overwatered.
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Thanks, i thought maybe the same....only reason I thought against the over water, was when it was time to water, I pushed it to the limit by letting it dry to the point where it almost was wilting, in need of water, perking right up and "praying" after feed and water....but, before watering, after waiting for the dry out, it still wasn't getting any desired results back into the leaves, of good health coming back into play...idk
 
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4kings_LoneSurvivor91 said:
Thank you so much for merging them for me...I tried, just wast able to do so. Thanks again friend
Sincerely, Jess Filson
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Posts number 7 and 8 can be removed. I was trying to put more pics on second merged post, didn't work. I didn't want a bunch of posts buying up the thread for no reason, so I thought I'd reach put and see if you were able to.delete.them on your end, I wasn't able to perform it on mine. Thanks again, sorry for the inconvenience. Sincerely.
 
Weather Report

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I did something like you using simple organic (ROLS with old medium, EWC, aerators) adding some amendments (specially bone meal) then putting the plant in a heavy soil causing burns through the plant. PH decreased dramatically. For me, adding some calmag (dolomite lime) worked well since I needed to increase the pH a little and my medium had no sources of both nutrients. And calmag helped me with chlorine problems as well.
 
Hollatchaboy

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Weather Report said:
I did something like you using simple organic (ROLS with old medium, EWC, aerators) adding some amendments (specially bone meal) then putting the plant in a heavy soil causing burns through the plant. PH decreased dramatically. For me, adding some calmag (dolomite lime) worked well since I needed to increase the pH a little and my medium had no sources of both nutrients. And calmag helped me with chlorine problems as well.
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You need to let the soil "cook",for a few weeks, before planting into it.
 
Budzbuddha

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“ Bud “ pic with red lighter …
That one was nowhere near done . It had too many immature pistils left on it and lacked any bulking.


As far as current plant issue - stop flushing it.
Everytime you flush it , you unbalance the medium. It is rather simple to keep plant on track with a FFOF base soil - you topdress it with more / water it in and leave it alone…… No other nutes necessary.

Besides that “ cali-gro “ splits the npk across 2 or 3 bottles which just equals complication. So much so you could have even gotten a simple standard dry fertilizer ( megacrop / HF fruit and flower / Dr. Earth / roots organic or even a general 4-4-4 fertilizer) and added a couple of tablespoons - watered in - done.

There is also something about the pic with your led.
Is it skewed to one side ? Can’t you hang it centered over plant ?
 
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I have another light above it, 240 mars.hydro...just didn't have it pictured..added 100 watt spider farmer for extra light....yeah, I thought I was a little early...they had stopped bulking and had about 15% amber trichs, I went for it...cured nice and smoked excellent. But, i do agree it was immature.

I will give the info a try you suggested about the introduction of the other line of nutes and cal mag.
 
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Budzbuddha said:
“ Bud “ pic with red lighter …
That one was nowhere near done . It had too many immature pistils left on it and lacked any bulking.


As far as current plant issue - stop flushing it.
Everytime you flush it , you unbalance the medium. It is rather simple to keep plant on track with a FFOF base soil - you topdress it with more / water it in and leave it alone…… No other nutes necessary.

Besides that “ cali-gro “ splits the npk across 2 or 3 bottles which just equals complication. So much so you could have even gotten a simple standard dry fertilizer ( megacrop / HF fruit and flower / Dr. Earth / roots organic or even a general 4-4-4 fertilizer) and added a couple of tablespoons - watered in - done.

There is also something about the pic with your led.
Is it skewed to one side ? Can’t you hang it centered over plant ?
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Only flushed once...half nute strength one week after...2 weeks now and it's still off balance...can I top dress and feed normal??
 
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4kings_LoneSurvivor91

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Budzbuddha said:
“ Bud “ pic with red lighter …
That one was nowhere near done . It had too many immature pistils left on it and lacked any bulking.


As far as current plant issue - stop flushing it.
Everytime you flush it , you unbalance the medium. It is rather simple to keep plant on track with a FFOF base soil - you topdress it with more / water it in and leave it alone…… No other nutes necessary.

Besides that “ cali-gro “ splits the npk across 2 or 3 bottles which just equals complication. So much so you could have even gotten a simple standard dry fertilizer ( megacrop / HF fruit and flower / Dr. Earth / roots organic or even a general 4-4-4 fertilizer) and added a couple of tablespoons - watered in - done.

There is also something about the pic with your led.
Is it skewed to one side ? Can’t you hang it centered over plant ?
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She's looking a bit better today..seems like its going back and forth, led me to believe vod problem or instability...
....I took the other light out until flower, making sure i wasn't bleaching out or light stress?? Pic included of big light....also, just got my tent...I'll be able to move my setup outta the closet im in right now, maybe it will help as well...my climate is correct, but maybe a more stable environment that's not gapped by closet doors on all sides will help with the vpd maintenance, no stress on em....
 

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4kings_LoneSurvivor91 said:
Only flushed once...half nute strength one week after...2 weeks now and it's still off balance...can I top dress and feed normal??
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I also use fish shit, I was hoping that could be my soil conditioner and enhancer early on, safely, instead of cal mag or what not down the road...but, here I am now...if I wouldn't have upped my nutes that first time a month ago, when I was running steady for 2 months, I'd have beenOK, i think...unless verging that long will always have to eventually be top dressed? Or cal mag introduced? To condition the depleted soil & improve uptake?? Am I close? Thank you for all the replies everyone, sincerely Jess Filson
 
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