Vincent VonBlown
New Member
I probably shouldn't talk so much, but then there's the stuff you have to throw out or just doesn't work out at all.
I know some breeders don't take as much time or experiment as much as others in some cases. But at any level there is going to be things that you have to chuck, and take the loss.
And sometimes the bigger loss your willing to take, the more lucrative and interesting specimen you might come up with.
My last crop was mostly a dud, the majority of it was composed of half ditchers that had been pollinated by male ditch weed making it 3/4 ditch weed... What I expected was big buds, but the quality to not be that great. Well the quality wasn't that great, and the yield was impossibly small. The plants set up just like my New Hawaiians and a lot of other ditch crosses I had seen, that yielded incredibly well. But it was all stalk and no bud, you might not even be able to make seeds on this stuff, I don't know for sure.
And this crop coming up has large numbers of another female with a portion of ditch in it crossed to a male ditch weed. This one smells much better though. But the reason I'm doing this, is curiousity if nothing else. For it's causing me huge financial loss. But if I didn't have this method of breeding. A lot of very incredible things would have been lost, like my Wonderjacks clone.
A lot of effort and cost. And that's another thing, these people that keep coming up looking down on you because you don't hand them over your elite clone, that you have put so much into finding etc. Well, why don't they do it? I mean do the work, take the financial losses, and smile because they've helped the community.
Well, that's unrealistic, and I've found even when you try to be nice, and just give your product away. It comes back to bite you.
When I first came on the internet with good friend Bill Wonder. We introduced the bubbler system, you might be using it right now. It was a very simple and ingenuis device. Just a vessle (bucket, tub or what have you) with an airator from a fish tank, to break the water.
The first people to try the bubbler were at Cannabis Culture. At first they started killing their plants doing stupid things, like pulling plants out of their soil pots and trying to throw them into a bubbler. Only to watch the plant die, and insist we were charlatans there only to decieve and ingratiate ourselves.
But then people started getting it right, and the bubbler was hailed as one of the major hydro advance of the time period.
You know what though, after it took off. People started making comments like Mr. Wonder seems to think he invented hydro. And then after a while other people started appearing, and more or less trying to say they came up with the idea. Remember "Highgrade" and his bubbling bucket?
Where do you think he got that from? Highgrade use to be a good internet friend. But I sort of saw him turn on us, about the same time Marc Emery did.
Pretty lame what happened, Marc oweing me money, and then setting his mods on me to do all sorts of terrible things to me, and my account there. I tell I had never seen anything like it before, and I had rarely seen anything so non professional in my life.
Well that was all 10 or 12 years ago. And recently, last year, I went back over there, as an old friend, had a question about wonderbud that I saw pop up on search. Guess I wanted to prove to myself what was really over there.
Well, you know what? It seemed like a totally different deal, the mods were welcoming me with open arms. Other people still there some were actually bubbling under fluroscent lighting, something I hadn't even tried myself. The mods were putting up my breeding videos. And I thought hmmmm, maybe I was wrong...
But, nope! I wasn't, as a similar scenereo was about to play out. I began getting wierd PMs, and trolls coming into my threads asking very bizzare questions. After a bit of this, and me asking these folks, if I could help them or what the problem was. I contacted a moderator about the situation, and instead of helping me, I get banned instead.
Here's the last screen shot I saw when I went to log into Cannabis Culture.
I know some breeders don't take as much time or experiment as much as others in some cases. But at any level there is going to be things that you have to chuck, and take the loss.
And sometimes the bigger loss your willing to take, the more lucrative and interesting specimen you might come up with.
My last crop was mostly a dud, the majority of it was composed of half ditchers that had been pollinated by male ditch weed making it 3/4 ditch weed... What I expected was big buds, but the quality to not be that great. Well the quality wasn't that great, and the yield was impossibly small. The plants set up just like my New Hawaiians and a lot of other ditch crosses I had seen, that yielded incredibly well. But it was all stalk and no bud, you might not even be able to make seeds on this stuff, I don't know for sure.
And this crop coming up has large numbers of another female with a portion of ditch in it crossed to a male ditch weed. This one smells much better though. But the reason I'm doing this, is curiousity if nothing else. For it's causing me huge financial loss. But if I didn't have this method of breeding. A lot of very incredible things would have been lost, like my Wonderjacks clone.
A lot of effort and cost. And that's another thing, these people that keep coming up looking down on you because you don't hand them over your elite clone, that you have put so much into finding etc. Well, why don't they do it? I mean do the work, take the financial losses, and smile because they've helped the community.
Well, that's unrealistic, and I've found even when you try to be nice, and just give your product away. It comes back to bite you.
When I first came on the internet with good friend Bill Wonder. We introduced the bubbler system, you might be using it right now. It was a very simple and ingenuis device. Just a vessle (bucket, tub or what have you) with an airator from a fish tank, to break the water.
The first people to try the bubbler were at Cannabis Culture. At first they started killing their plants doing stupid things, like pulling plants out of their soil pots and trying to throw them into a bubbler. Only to watch the plant die, and insist we were charlatans there only to decieve and ingratiate ourselves.
But then people started getting it right, and the bubbler was hailed as one of the major hydro advance of the time period.
You know what though, after it took off. People started making comments like Mr. Wonder seems to think he invented hydro. And then after a while other people started appearing, and more or less trying to say they came up with the idea. Remember "Highgrade" and his bubbling bucket?
Where do you think he got that from? Highgrade use to be a good internet friend. But I sort of saw him turn on us, about the same time Marc Emery did.
Pretty lame what happened, Marc oweing me money, and then setting his mods on me to do all sorts of terrible things to me, and my account there. I tell I had never seen anything like it before, and I had rarely seen anything so non professional in my life.
Well that was all 10 or 12 years ago. And recently, last year, I went back over there, as an old friend, had a question about wonderbud that I saw pop up on search. Guess I wanted to prove to myself what was really over there.
Well, you know what? It seemed like a totally different deal, the mods were welcoming me with open arms. Other people still there some were actually bubbling under fluroscent lighting, something I hadn't even tried myself. The mods were putting up my breeding videos. And I thought hmmmm, maybe I was wrong...
But, nope! I wasn't, as a similar scenereo was about to play out. I began getting wierd PMs, and trolls coming into my threads asking very bizzare questions. After a bit of this, and me asking these folks, if I could help them or what the problem was. I contacted a moderator about the situation, and instead of helping me, I get banned instead.
Here's the last screen shot I saw when I went to log into Cannabis Culture.