California judge order sex change to proceed

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Tori Amos said:
No we should not deny relatively inexpensive medication to prisoners who may harm themselves or others without the medication, as due to their mental condition, they aren't in control of themselves, and need the meds for basic functioning.

That's not happening here with the murderer who was granted the surgery, this is just his desires about his outward appearance, and the biggest issue I have is that this is not a certain cure, it's just that the murderer desperately wants a red-Ryder BB gun.. I mean gender reassignment surgery because he thinks it will make him happy.

So if you have two prisoners, one who is schizo and needs meds ($200 a month lets say) to keep the voices in his head at a lower enough volume so that he doesn't jump off the roof or throw someone off the roof, and another who wants to "feel" like a women at a cost of $100k, they are not even in the same category. One is medically necessary to keep one alive, and one treatment is elective.

Elective, buck. If the trans person doesn't have it he won't die, which is the very definition of elective surgery. You can choose whether or not to have it, it's not life-saving. This is madness. You know you get it, I just don't know why you're pretending not to understand how frivolous this is.
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unfortunately for your retarded talking points, you are wrong on every level.

gender dysphoria interferes with basic functioning just the same as other clinically diagnosable conditions, hence why it is a clinically diagnosable condition.

we don't decide on whether or not patients get treatment for their conditions based on the cost of the treatment, there is no spending limit on avoiding cruel and unusual punishment.

we don't deny other patients their meds just because they may be able to live without them. a schizophrenic may not die without their meds, but we still treat the patient anyway.

every single one of your retarded talking points is so incredibly easily refuted.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Tori Amos said:
There has been no mention of cruel and unusual punishment. New topic?
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no, denying medical treatment to people with clinically diagnosable conditions is the topic at hand here.

you seem to think it is OK to do that if you find the condition "yucky" enough or too expensive or not "life saving" (but only in some cases, imagine that).

you are clearly a horrible sock puppet and an even worse person, and very stupid to boot.
 
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