CALLING ALL Californians

gualapa

Member
The industrial hemp act has nothing to do with legalizing mmj for recreational use. It's for harvesting lumber. That is the bill the governor signed last august.

testing will always be part of a job.. I know in construction. If you fuck up up equipment or roll a digger . you are fired on the spot. they will test...
it will be illegal for employers to fire you based on cannabis use, unless you're smoking when you're working. covered under section E, part 2, of CCHI.

what kind of construction are you in/speaking of?? I've been in and out of construction for years, never heard of anybody getting drug tested whatsoever...ever
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
it will be illegal for employers to fire you based on cannabis use, unless you're smoking when you're working. covered under section E, part 2, of CCHI.

what kind of construction are you in/speaking of?? I've been in and out of construction for years, never heard of anybody getting drug tested whatsoever...ever
used to be laying sewers for new housing tracks. I saw a dude roll an excavater. He was done on the spot. They had him drug test the next day for insurance purposes.
 

reggaerican

Well-Known Member
Hemp should have never been made illegal in the first place. But, like every other government decision someone got rich..! In this case it was the lumber and nylon industry..
Now those same fuckers that took it away want to bring it back for the same reason (money).. As for myself they will never have my vote. Heck I'm legal now.! A vote now would just push the little guy that much further in a hole.
Fuck the government.! And Fuck the investor that would take away from so many cali growers if it passes.........
 

qroox

Well-Known Member
Hemp should have never been made illegal in the first place. But, like every other government decision someone got rich..! In this case it was the lumber and nylon industry..
Now those same fuckers that took it away want to bring it back for the same reason (money).. As for myself they will never have my vote. Heck I'm legal now.! A vote now would just push the little guy that much further in a hole.
Fuck the government.! And Fuck the investor that would take away from so many cali growers if it passes.........
They just don't give a fuck.Mel Frank's grow book,has it all explained in a small historical reference.How it started,why it started,and why it was declared illegal..Profit and corrupted principles.Problems are almost the same today.Someone is getting rich..someone else is falling off a building..
 

chuewy

Member
The exact opposite will happen in 2016. This is the stellar petition. If you want a shitty one made by the people with money, wait until 2016. You're not making any sense. Why would a company go to the federal supreme court to test if a worker is high at work? The whole point is about being tested about previous use, whether it was last night or the night before. Obviously you cannot be high at work, just like you cannot be drunk at work either.


Are you kidding? You didn't read a single thing I wrote, allow me to repeat for a third time. NO one cares about getting tested for being high at work.............. It's about being tested for previous use, like last night, when you weren't at work. You can't get fired for that. Jesus jumping christ, you haven't poked a hole in anything my friend.

I mean seriously..... why do you think us stoners want to avoid drug tests? For being high at work? Come on.... it's bout outside use, which will be legal if this is passed. Read the initiative. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with state laws, otherwise the Supreme Court would've blocked Washington & Colorado's legalization.

If you have any more concerns, however nonsensical, please post them here. I value your opinion just as much as anyone else's.
How are drug test generally administered at a work place? Urine! If the employer suspect you were under the influence, key work is suspect, the employer will send you home and issue a urine test tomorrow. When that shows up positive, you're fired. Wait, what's that? You smoked 3 days ago? Well, sucks to be you! The employer main concern is your safety and others in the workplace. Why? Because you could have cost the business millions in liability. You don't think an employer will bring this up to a federal court if it has the potential to damages in the millions.

And please, you're naive if you think the supreme court cannot block the state legalization efforts. If they really wanted to, they can. Federal law will always trump state law no matter what. What you're seeing is the lack of enforcement not statehood rights.

I will vote this shit bill down if it gets on the ballot, as well spread the word how shitty this bill is.
 

gualapa

Member
How are drug test generally administered at a work place? Urine! If the employer suspect you were under the influence, key work is suspect, the employer will send you home and issue a urine test tomorrow. When that shows up positive, you're fired. Wait, what's that? You smoked 3 days ago? Well, sucks to be you! The employer main concern is your safety and others in the workplace. Why? Because you could have cost the business millions in liability. You don't think an employer will bring this up to a federal court if it has the potential to damages in the millions.

And please, you're naive if you think the supreme court cannot block the state legalization efforts. If they really wanted to, they can. Federal law will always trump state law no matter what. What you're seeing is the lack of enforcement not statehood rights.

I will vote this shit bill down if it gets on the ballot, as well spread the word how shitty this bill is.
1) You must not follow cannabis news much, because everybody and the brother's mother knows that the Federal Government said they would not go after Colorado and Washington's legalization. Of course they trump state law, but they're not doing that. They did with medical cannabis, going after grow ops and dispensaries for decades now, but they aren't popping into the full legalization matters in Colorado and Washington.

2) You're making assumptions on how urine testing will work out. You're saying that if they think you're high at the work place, they test you, you smoked 3 days ago, you're done. Well, that's your assumption. The initiative clearly states this will not be allowed, but no one knows how shit will play out until it actually comes up

3) What's so shitty about this initiative? Please, state your concerns, since you've only bashed my comment on employment testing so far. You have no basis, no claim. Make one or stop babbling about the same shit.
 

TWS

Well-Known Member
As long as I can grow my own plants, be employed and not worry about a piss test and own guns legally to protect myself and family Im all for it.
 

Andrew2112

Well-Known Member
I think The Cannabis Policy Reform Act of 2014 by Ed Rosenthal is one if the better initiatives out there, it grants more freedom than Colorado and Washington.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
I think The Cannabis Policy Reform Act of 2014 by Ed Rosenthal is one if the better initiatives out there, it grants more freedom than Colorado and Washington.
23% tax + state/local sales tax. That will have people paying those 30% taxes. Also CPRA would have it regulated by the ABC. Don't like that.

It's not a bad initiative, but not one of my favorites. I'll vote for it if that's the one that gets on the ballot, but I'd rather have CCHI or MCLR.
 

pSi007

Active Member
You smoked 3 days ago?


The effect from cannabis will not last 3 days or 3 months, therefore the test is flawed and should be illegal. If they cannot prove immediate intoxication, it will not be as such. A blood test can prove if you are currently high and how much you smoked in the last 24-hours.

They can also administer instant oral-swabs. These tests cannot detect immediate intoxication but they can test for a positive reaction to cannabis use in the last 72-hours.

3 months for cannabis = bullshit.. lawsuit..

you can be a convicted felon, a user of meth and crack, and still test clean in 72 hours, no matter how much you used.. BULLSHIT...
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
Depends whats written in the bill. The last legalization bill was shady and would of screwed us all legally and financially and put alot of people in jail if it passed.
CCHI 2014 is basically the same bill Jack Herer was working on for years. It's just slightly reworked and being pushed forth by some personal friends of Jack (RIP).
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
used to be laying sewers for new housing tracks. I saw a dude roll an excavater. He was done on the spot. They had him drug test the next day for insurance purposes.
What kind of idiot would submit to a drug test after he was already fired?
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
CCHI 2014 is basically the same bill Jack Herer was working on for years. It's just slightly reworked and being pushed forth by some personal friends of Jack (RIP).
It's a revised version of the Jack Herer bill. Written by people who really know how to write a law.
 

pSi007

Active Member
need to address California Environmental code CEQA: 15061 (b) (3), cannabis is negative on environmental impact unless ground-saturation damage or excessive odor is witnessed outside of the property.
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
purest natural organics all the way. cannabis acts as a sponge sort of speak.. phytoremediation.. cannabis its self can absorb all the bad everything. the negative part is caused the dumbasses who you use chemical nutrients and pesticedes on outdoor crops. litter everything in the forest. Recycle everything in your grow. nothing goes to waste.
 
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