Can anyone Please help me?

Lysergic Aura

Lysergic Aura

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Hello fellow growers! I just joined this site and it seems really great! Anyways I was hoping to get some help with me yellowing and sorta brown spotting sometimes.

It's my first grow and it's been going great untiil about the last 4 weeks or so. i've done some research but I'm not 100 percent sure what the problem is and how to fix it. I can't find a PH tester anywhere nor can I find granulated lime....

I think it my be PH level mut it could be Iron deficiency as well. I'm growing in a small well ventilated closet with 1000 watt Halide. I was using 400 w HPS untill it burnt out about a week ago. I was watering every couple days because the temp was really warm and drying out the soil fast. I was also feeding it about twice a week with half the dose recomended by Schultz 10 15 10. It says 7 seven drops so I was doing around for during veg stage and it was going good. I only ran into the problem about 3 weeks into flowering. Since the problem has started growth has slowed down.

I trim most of the really yellow and droopy stuff and it seems to help a little but the yellowing keeps appearing. I've stopped watering it to about every 4 days or so now and it hasn't made much difference either. I've also stopped feeding it food to about once a week at a normal dose. I've even switched the food to miracle grow fot the last feeding about a week ago.

Can anyone give me some direction and please help????

Thanks you soooo much!

Here are some pics as well of what they look like. They don't look as bad cause I just cut all the yellow of but the plants themselves use to be a bright green and now they are a shade of yellow.:wall:
 

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Lysergic Aura

Lysergic Aura

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I've only used it once and I want to feed again today or tomorrow so I'll go back to Shultz... Still doen't help me tho....
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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over fert, leaves are crispy critter. flush. back off the nutes. lowes and home depot both have either fine dolomite lime or hydrated lime. dont know who told u granular as it will take forever to break down. hanna ph testers digital ebay 30.00.
lets get movin here
 
Lysergic Aura

Lysergic Aura

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smokeybandit22 said:
over fert, leaves are crispy critter. flush. back off the nutes. lowes and home depot both have either fine dolomite lime or hydrated lime. dont know who told u granular as it will take forever to break down. hanna ph testers digital ebay 30.00.
lets get movin here
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Thanks smokey I will definately try flushing. Does anyone else agree?

Cheers!
 
natmoon

natmoon

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I don't agree that plant has N lock out,flush it out and then add a pure nitrogen fert.
Its clearly nitrogen deficient:leaf:
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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natmoon said:
I don't agree that plant has N lock out,flush it out and then add a pure nitrogen fert.
Its clearly nitrogen deficient:leaf:
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wat up Nat. dont think anyone here said N lockout-u prob responding to a diff post. dont think he wants to be adding a pure N fert this far into flower
 
Twistyman

Twistyman

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A good chart (pics)...FAQ...to plant problems...to PH/nute problems.....to chart by Neitzsche.......Luck...
 
natmoon

natmoon

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smokeybandit22 said:
wat up Nat. dont think anyone here said N lockout-u prob responding to a diff post. dont think he wants to be adding a pure N fert this far into flower
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Why not if his plant is obviously needing it?
Pure N is only a term for a granule based nute that you can buy in any diy/garden store for a couple of bucks,its meant for vegetables,flowers etc..
Mix a small amount into your water as per the pack instructions and water with it after you have flushed the medium with phd water.
I don't think anyone here said n lockout because most people don't have a clue what they are talking about,its just their opinion and not a fact,a lot of people get that confused see,facts and opinions,2 very different things:lol:
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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natmoon said:
Why not if his plant is obviously needing it?
Pure N is only a term for a granule based nute that you can buy in any diy/garden store for a couple of bucks,its meant for vegetables,flowers etc..
Mix a small amount into your water as per the pack instructions and water with it after you have flushed the medium with phd water.
I don't think anyone here said n lockout because most people don't have a clue what they are talking about,its just their opinion and not a fact,a lot of people get that confused see,facts and opinions,2 very different things:lol:
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yeah, I get that. since none of us are botnists, everything is one's opinion.
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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natmoon said:
No your confusing your opinion with fact.
Plants are yellow due to a lack of N.
There isn't another reason,plant isn't getting enough N,the end.:lol:
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Actually I am not. Cant even see how as I did not state any facts. The OP was asking for opinions and we both gave ours. And lack of N is not the only reason why leaves will yellow. Unbalanced K or MG or Fe or Sulphur will all produce yellowing to some degree. And that is not opinion, that is fact.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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smokeybandit22 said:
yeah, I get that. since none of us are botnists, everything is one's opinion.
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I am not a botanist but my brother in law and my sister and my oldest niece are and we own a nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or kid care, and while I don’t work there and am only an investor I have learned a lot about growing things and while I would say nute lockout is of low probability I would still say that a pH meter is very important to have and it would be worth checking to be sure.

When dealing with stuff like this, especially when people look at pictures and then give opinions based only on what they can see that is strictly an opinion and sometimes to find out what it actually the problem you have to eliminate all possibilities and then regardless of how low the probability of what remains is that has to be your problem.

Just taking guesses from people and then trying what you are told is sort of like throwing dry dirt against a wall and hope it will stick. You really need to figure out the problem where the plants actually are and to do that you need a few things and one of them is a pH meter. It may turn out that is not the case this time but sooner or later if you grow long enough you will run into that and then you will need a meter so just pick one up and test both your soil and the water you use and see if either or both are out of whack and then do what you have to do and if it is not that you have definitely excluded on possibility and then you move on to the next or if by the time you get one you have tried what people have recommended and it hasn’t helped then those things can be eliminated and you will be prepared to check the next likely possibility.

I always check both my soil and my water before I start a grow. Sometimes a type soil worked fine in the past so you use it again and you happen to get a ‘hot’ bag or if you are like me and are on a well over time the levels in the water can change and you find yourself wondering what is wrong and just assuming what you are using is fine because just like I said with the soil something may change with your water and if you can’t check it you can’t fix it or even figure it out.
At least that is my opinion …. for what it is worth.
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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Brick Top said:
I am not a botanist but my brother in law and my sister and my oldest niece are and we own a nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or kid care, and while I don’t work there and am only an investor I have learned a lot about growing things and while I would say nute lockout is of low probability I would still say that a pH meter is very important to have and it would be worth checking to be sure.

When dealing with stuff like this, especially when people look at pictures and then give opinions based only on what they can see that is strictly an opinion and sometimes to find out what it actually the problem you have to eliminate all possibilities and then regardless of how low the probability of what remains is that has to be your problem.

Just taking guesses from people and then trying what you are told is sort of like throwing dry dirt against a wall and hope it will stick. You really need to figure out the problem where the plants actually are and to do that you need a few things and one of them is a pH meter. It may turn out that is not the case this time but sooner or later if you grow long enough you will run into that and then you will need a meter so just pick one up and test both your soil and the water you use and see if either or both are out of whack and then do what you have to do and if it is not that you have definitely excluded on possibility and then you move on to the next or if by the time you get one you have tried what people have recommended and it hasn’t helped then those things can be eliminated and you will be prepared to check the next likely possibility.

I always check both my soil and my water before I start a grow. Sometimes a type soil worked fine in the past so you use it again and you happen to get a ‘hot’ bag or if you are like me and are on a well over time the levels in the water can change and you find yourself wondering what is wrong and just assuming what you are using is fine because just like I said with the soil something may change with your water and if you can’t check it you can’t fix it or even figure it out.

At least that is my opinion …. for what it is worth.
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hey, thanks for your opinion, I agree with alot of what you wrote. I do have to point out that it should be in every posters mind that 99% of the pics they post are crap and of only a leaf or two, and should expect a wide range of answers, guesses and opninions. At least that is what I would be expecting. You are dead right that the best option is to rule out as much as possible first. I have found that with MJ, it is usually only a handful of issues that would cause problems. Although they can be very general in nature, with some simple deduction an answer can be found. It should almost be inconceivable that one would attempt a grow of any size, without the proper tools to create the best environment they can, i.e. Ph meter. Unfortunately that is not the case, and we are left to make guesses on everything. I would say that at least 25% of the replies to posters do have merit and can produce results, therefore, if we can save even one mj plant, is it not all worth it for the bettering of potheadedness?-
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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Lysergic Aura said:
Hello fellow growers! I just joined this site and it seems really great! Anyways I was hoping to get some help with me yellowing and sorta brown spotting sometimes.

It's my first grow and it's been going great untiil about the last 4 weeks or so. i've done some research but I'm not 100 percent sure what the problem is and how to fix it. I can't find a PH tester anywhere nor can I find granulated lime....

I think it my be PH level mut it could be Iron deficiency as well. I'm growing in a small well ventilated closet with 1000 watt Halide. I was using 400 w HPS untill it burnt out about a week ago. I was watering every couple days because the temp was really warm and drying out the soil fast. I was also feeding it about twice a week with half the dose recomended by Schultz 10 15 10. It says 7 seven drops so I was doing around for during veg stage and it was going good. I only ran into the problem about 3 weeks into flowering. Since the problem has started growth has slowed down.

I trim most of the really yellow and droopy stuff and it seems to help a little but the yellowing keeps appearing. I've stopped watering it to about every 4 days or so now and it hasn't made much difference either. I've also stopped feeding it food to about once a week at a normal dose. I've even switched the food to miracle grow fot the last feeding about a week ago.

Can anyone give me some direction and please help????

Thanks you soooo much!

Here are some pics as well of what they look like. They don't look as bad cause I just cut all the yellow of but the plants themselves use to be a bright green and now they are a shade of yellow.:wall:
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1# you should not cut anything during flower
2# growth slows 3 weeks into flowering with most plants, the streach is over and its ready to build buds
3# find a ph meter and ph correct your water / ebay!
4# flush it with ph correct water and hit it with grow nutes for the next 2 waterings than back off on the nutes

it can take anywhere from a day to 2 weeks for a plant to recover from pruning espetially during flower. all trimming should be done 1 week b4 switching to 12/12
 
smokeybandit22

smokeybandit22

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natmoon said:
I am right,trust me and all will be fine;-)
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is that an opinion or fact? just kidding. u may very well be right. but what's up with that second pic? damn if that doesnt look like fert burn to me.
maybe it is lockout of N, and the other ferts are causing it and the burn.
My opionion was they were fried, but looking at those plants, they look so weird. r those buds on there?
 
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